Had a hard time deciding on Politics or Fun Stuff on this one. Joe Biden is a joke.
The Joe Biden Rule #1 for Self Defense: When scared, go fire off 2 shots out of a double barrel shotgun at whatever scared you.

There are no other rules. That's all you need.

I would be happier if all weapons that were carried were of that size.. less chance of someone sneaking a gun into a bank to rob it, or into a school to commit mass murder. Then again, I believe small concealable handguns are infinitely more dangerous because they are concealable. "Assault Weapons" as they are being called (big and scary looking) are less frightening to me, because at least I know who is carrying around me. The introduction of the revolver made murder rates soar pre-civil war, because it was easy to carry and conceal.

quote Originally posted by tbone42: I would be happier if all weapons that were carried were of that size.. less chance of someone sneaking a gun into a bank to rob it, or into a school to commit mass murder. Then again, I believe small concealable handguns are infinitely more dangerous because they are concealable. "Assault Weapons" as they are being called (big and scary looking) are less frightening to me, because at least I know who is carrying around me. The introduction of the revolver made murder rates soar pre-civil war, because it was easy to carry and conceal.

It's a shame you won't be happier. You were born 200 years too late.

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I saw that shameless message from uncle joe.
Yeah, right, sure his wife can handle a twelve gauge, . She would never shoot off the second round. Unless she had an AR15. Which joe says is not necessary.

quote Originally posted by cliffw: I saw that shameless message from uncle joe. Yeah, right, sure his wife can handle a twelve gauge, . She would never shoot off the second round. Unless she had an AR15. Which joe says is not necessary.

Not to mention the reckless endangerment from firing a weapon either into the air or at an unidentified target.

quote Originally posted by tbone42: I would be happier if all weapons that were carried were of that size.. less chance of someone sneaking a gun into a bank to rob it, or into a school to commit mass murder. Then again, I believe small concealable handguns are infinitely more dangerous because they are concealable. "Assault Weapons" as they are being called (big and scary looking) are less frightening to me, because at least I know who is carrying around me. The introduction of the revolver made murder rates soar pre-civil war, because it was easy to carry and conceal.

Nuclear reactive elements should scare the living daylights out of you. And naturally occurring biological agents.. A pocket full of "powder" could kill hundreds, and you would never know what hit you until its far too late.

If guns never existed, there would be 'replacements'. ( and of course they do, and are easily created since they are such simple machines, so criminals will never be dis-armed as a group )

( and no, i wasnt trying poke at you.. just an observation that honest citizens running around with pistols and revolvers are the least of our concerns )

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Hmmm....double-barrel SPAS ......might be onto something.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: The Joe Biden Rule #1 for Self Defense: When scared, go fire off 2 shots out of a double barrel shotgun at whatever scared you. There are no other rules. That's all you need.

You have to go out your deck and shoot in the air. The the police come and charge you with discharging a weapon within city limits.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: It's a shame you won't be happier. You were born 200 years too late.

I have often thought the same thing myself, but my point is no less valid.

I prefer to take my gun advice from Uncle Ted.

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A double barreled shotgon.

"Go outside and fire two blasts..."

...and you've effectively emptied your weapon. Dumbass.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: I prefer to take my gun advice from Uncle Ted.

Ill stick with Heston. He was a bit calmer.

quote Originally posted by Raydar: A double barreled shotgon. "Go outside and fire two blasts..." ...and you've effectively emptied your weapon. Dumbass.

You are absolutely correct.

Personally I have always thought that a pump shotgun with an 18.5" sawed-off barrel is the best choice for a home defense weapon.

#1 Precise targeting is pretty much optional.
#2 Chambering that 1st shell has a very distinctive sound.
#3 There isn't a bad guy on the planet that doesn't know that that sound means trouble, (a whole lot of trouble.)
#4 The bad guys really don't know exactly how many shots you have.

Of course that is just my opinion. Please add your thoughts to further the discussion.

~ Bob ~

quote Originally posted by FieroBobo: You are absolutely correct. Personally I have always thought that a pump shotgun with an 18.5" sawed-off barrel is the best choice for a home defense weapon. #1 Precise targeting is pretty much optional. #2 Chambering that 1st shell has a very distinctive sound. #3 There isn't a bad guy on the planet that doesn't know that that sound means trouble, (a whole lot of trouble.) #4 The bad guys really don't know exactly how many shots you have. Of course that is just my opinion. Please add your thoughts to further the discussion. ~ Bob ~

Your post is silly. #2. Lolol. Yeah that's distinctive. They get to hear that? I keep mine like I keep my handgun condition 1. I guess my time is more valuable than yours?

Joe biden is a blow hard dumbass and a great insurance policy for obama. i mean really who would want joe biden as commander and chief.... not me

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: Joe biden is a blow hard dumbass and a great insurance policy for obama. i mean really who would want joe biden as commander and chief.... not me

I didn’t want any of them that ran for president or vice president; none of them have brains enough to blow their own nose.

And I think Biden was the worst, fire 2 shots out of a double barrel shotgun off basically in the air!

I think the both of them, Biden And Oboogie Woogy share a brain and it has been on vacation since long before they got elected.

Steve

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quote Originally posted by 84fiero123: I didn’t want any of them that ran for president or vice president; none of them have brains enough to blow their own nose.

Unfortunately, they are not dumb at all, but they are playing to those in our society who are not well informed. Acting dumb to play to the dumber, as it were......

Its not about the truth, its not about the kids - its about power over the populace.

http://www.usnews.com/news/...d-jill-biden-in-jail

quote Tom Shellenberger, a lawyer who serves as a spokesman for the Delaware State Sportsmen's Association, told U.S. News that Biden's security tip was "the worst type of advice." [POLL: Hillary Would Trounce Biden in 2016] "I am a member of the Delaware Bar, as is Vice President Biden," noted Shellenberger. "There are a number of statutory restrictions that could be violated by shooting a shotgun 'off the porch.'" In addition to felony charges, Shellenberger cited the "Discharge of a firearm within 15 yards of a road (7 Del.C. § 719), a misdemeanor," and "Violation of the residential dwelling safety zone as set forth in 7 Del.C. § 723, also a misdemeanor." "Beyond the potential criminal liability, it is simply bad advice," added Shellenberger. "Not only does blasting blindly away put innocent persons at risk, it also tells the bad guys where you are and that you are armed. In most circumstances, it might be better if that comes as a surprise to the bad guys."

quote Originally posted by FieroBobo: You are absolutely correct. Personally I have always thought that a pump shotgun with an 18.5" sawed-off barrel is the best choice for a home defense weapon. #1 Precise targeting is pretty much optional. #2 Chambering that 1st shell has a very distinctive sound. #3 There isn't a bad guy on the planet that doesn't know that that sound means trouble, (a whole lot of trouble.) #4 The bad guys really don't know exactly how many shots you have. Of course that is just my opinion. Please add your thoughts to further the discussion. ~ Bob ~

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: Your post is silly. #2. Lolol. Yeah that's distinctive. They get to hear that? I keep mine like I keep my handgun condition 1. I guess my time is more valuable than yours?

How we keep our guns loaded has a lot to do with what our situation is in our homes. If you have kids you really shouldn’t have a round chambered in any gun that is lying around. And let’s face it, you are not carrying a shotgun, even a 18” barreled with a folding stock even around with you at all times.

Number 1. Is iffy as far as distance goes at best, see at short range under 20’ there is very little spread on any gauge shotgun. Granted it is of little consequence when you at least get the target in front of the gun, say 10’ or so. The same can be true of just about any other weapon pistol or rifle.

Number 2. Is right on the money as far as I can tell, the sound of any make, model, and gauge pump action shotgun is so distinctive and recognizable I myself recommended them to women who wanted a home defense weapon. You really can’t tell the difference between the gauges. And it allows the perp or family member in the home to know what is going on and gives both, family member the chance to tell the gun holder that they are friend not foe. It also gives the perp the chance to avoid being shot by retreating out of the home. As well as allowing the home owner the ability to avoid having to live with killing someone for the rest of their lives.

Three and four are just examples of what I just said and backup number 2.

Now what was this thread about?

Steve

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Id almost bet money that Biden is the only reason some redneck hasnt shot Obuma already.

quote Originally posted by FieroBobo: ... #1 Precise targeting is pretty much optional. #2 Chambering that 1st shell has a very distinctive sound. #3 There isn't a bad guy on the planet that doesn't know that that sound means trouble, (a whole lot of trouble.) #4 The bad guys really don't know exactly how many shots you have. ... ~ Bob ~

#1 Absolutely correct. I have been shot at twice by fools that have no clue on how to use their weapon.
#2 My thoughts exactly. Amy even knows how to "rack" an empty 12 guage. The sound is a VERY important deturant.
#3
#4 Also important. A break barrel shotgun is used for sport. It does not creat the sound that I want.

Edit: Practice, practice, practice. Run through home defense scenarios. Preparedness is a life saver. Even if it is to make that 911 call, practice. Where are the dogs going to be? Family? Sight lines? Which door are they coming through? Just where is the phone during an invasion? Many more factors to consider, but you get the jist of what I mean. Not knowing is a sure way to cause harm to your loved ones. Practice.

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Be careful depending on the sound of racking a pump to scare off an intruder. These days it's just as likely to be someone on drugs who won't care and might not stop if SHOT, forget being scared off by a sound. It also advertises your rough location and the fact that you're armed, giving the intruder an unnecessary advantage over you.

It sounds like fun and works great in the movies. I don't recommend it in real life.

Less posts can prevent less negative ratings, . Not directed at anyone.

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: Joe biden is a blow hard dumbass and a great insurance policy for obama. i mean really who would want joe biden as commander and chief.... not me

I would, I would probably never vote for him but if he took over for Obama because of the O leaving his post prematurely I would be a dancing man.

Wow. Advocating blindly shooting at a target that "scared you" and one you cannot see will quickly leave you in Oscar Pistorius' shoes. (no pun intended) What if it was a bald eagle that just pounced on a rabbit?

I'd say I'm surprised to hear a politician advocating Pistorius' mistake in every day circumstances, but I'm really not that surprised.

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Do you know that it is illegal to just shoot off the second floor balcony in Delaware. If you did what uncle Joe told you jail would be your next stop. Funny uncle Joe didn't know this because that is where he's from New Castle county Delaware. Maybe he's just hoping enough people do just that and can't vote or complain what is going on with our 2nd amendment.

Earl

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Can you triple down on stupid?

Now Joe Biden is saying to just shoot through the door!

quote “Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door.”

Says Vice-freaking-president Joe "Double Barrel" Biden.

http://www.fieldandstream.c...-joe-biden-interview

Damn. Stupid, reckless, dangerous AND highly illegal. Congratulations, Joe, you win the Christmas turkey.



Really, Democrats? Really?

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