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Can we talk about REAL Gun Control for a moment ? by randye
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Report this Post02-16-2013 01:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeDirect Link to This Post
Gun control:

Which pistol shooting stance do most of you prefer?
The classic isosceles stance, or the Weaver stance?
Perhaps a modified Weaver stance ?
Something else?

When shooting a semi-automatic pistol with a longer slide action, do any of you find that having an extended "beaver tail" on the weapon helps you get a better grip or avoid "slide rash" better ?

What is your favorite grip modification, if any, and why ?

Do any of those "vent compensated" pistol barrels really help your accuracy ?
I haven't tried one yet.

Is it REALLY necessary to overlap or "interlock" your thumbs when using a two handed grip on a semi-auto pistol ?

I haven't purchased the illuminated Tritium night sights for my Glock yet. Do they really work better than the original sights?
How about during the day, any big difference to be aware of?

Not really a *control* question but, has anyone found a GOOD "speed loader" to replace that nasty plastic piece of trash that is provided with the Glock ?

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Left foot/Left shoulder pointed at the target
Right foot parallel to the target right shoulder back
This gives the target a smaller profile to shoot back at

Left elbow bent at 45 degrees
Right arm straight
Left hand cupping the right hand from the front not the bottom.
Steady pressure to keep your shots on target

Relax and point the weapon at the ground 5 feet in front of you, easy to bring up on target but you don't have to worry about accidental discharge hitting someone if you get startled.
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Sit in a chair and put in the coordinates for the drone to eliminate. Then lean back and watch it on the monitor, while eating a sandwich.


Kidding aside, mostly weaver for me if i target shooting. But i do practice in other more awkward ways, as you never know what position you are in when you need it.


EDIT: ( forgot to hit save earlier )

I have tritium on my G17, and it does make them far more visible, in the dark at least.. During the day at the range they are no different then simple white dots. Tho the 17 is normally put away, if i had to those sights it in a defense situation at night, i doubt the sights would matter much. I wouldn't buy them again. I do not have them on my carry G26.

I have a threaded barrel ( evil barrel!! ) and a compensator on the 17, and while its not a huge difference, i can tell a slight difference for followup shots. Not good for defense use, as the flash goes up, right in the line of sight... not good. In the end, was it worth the $? Like the sights, not really.

The OEM loader works fine for me. Its not about speed for me, just saving my thumb

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Originally posted by randye:

1. Do any of those "vent compensated" pistol barrels really help your accuracy ?
I haven't tried one yet.

2. Is it REALLY necessary to overlap or "interlock" your thumbs when using a two handed grip on a semi-auto pistol ?

3. I haven't purchased the illuminated Tritium night sights for my Glock yet. Do they really work better than the original sights?
How about during the day, any big difference to be aware of?

4. Not really a *control* question but, has anyone found a GOOD "speed loader" to replace that nasty plastic piece of trash that is provided with the Glock ?




1. What caliber? 9mm really doesn’t have much kick and I wouldn’t think it would help much, now getting into the higher calibers it will.

2. Not for me but that’s just me, I, when I use a 2 handed grip hold down under the clip, magazine.

3. Yes, yes they do. When I bought our first Glock it didn’t have them. They really are VERY visible at night, not so much during the day.

4. No haven’t even looked.
Just looked and found a bunch and they are all plastic.


I also agree with the standing so that you present a smaller target by standing sideways to your target and everything else Jake
said.
Steve

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Originally posted by randye:

Not really a *control* question but, has anyone found a GOOD "speed loader" to replace that nasty plastic piece of trash that is provided with the Glock ?




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THANKS!
Another "must have" on my list now
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quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Left foot/Left shoulder pointed at the target
Right foot parallel to the target right shoulder back
This gives the target a smaller profile to shoot back at

Left elbow bent at 45 degrees
Right arm straight
Left hand cupping the right hand from the front not the bottom.
Steady pressure to keep your shots on target

Relax and point the weapon at the ground 5 feet in front of you, easy to bring up on target but you don't have to worry about accidental discharge hitting someone if you get startled.


Thanks Jake,
You pretty much described my usual stance which is a "modified Weaver".

I also use the same basic hand grip but I also employ the "push & pull" or "60-40" technique with my arms
60% forward thrust with my strong hand, (arm straight, elbow and wrist locked), and 40% pull back with my weak, (supporting), hand. That technique alone has made a world of difference in stability of the weapon for me.
It also cured a nasty habit I had of "pushing" the trigger ever so slightly laterally while I am squeezing.

Just "cupping" the weak hand under the grip might work well for a 9mm or other weapons with less recoil, but my usual carry weapon is a Glock 23, ( .40 S&W ), so multiple shots require a good firm 2-handed grip to stay on target.

When out of the holster, I've been trying to keep my pistol at the high ready in "close combat military style" lately, (close to the center of the chest, both hands on the weapon and muzzle down 45 degrees.
Its much faster to "punch out" to bring the weapon to bear on target from that stance than it is with your weapon down by your side, and it is also FAR less likely that anyone will be able to reach in and grab your weapon in that stance.

EDIT: I just found this video that explains it well.

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Originally posted by randye:


THANKS!
Another "must have" on my list now


I have one and it's a little awkward to use at first, but once you get used to it, it is faster and easier.
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Originally posted by randye:

Thanks Jake,
You pretty much described my usual stance which is a "modified Weaver".


Once I started shooting that way I never changed.
Mostly 45 cal when I was in the Navy, I dont know what the teach now.
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Originally posted by Formula88:


I have one and it's a little awkward to use at first, but once you get used to it, it is faster and easier.


I have heard some folks say that you should fill new mags and let them sit for a month or so to keep the new spring compressed.
Supposedly the mags are easier to load afterwards.
I have never found that to be true.

Generally I don't have a problem thumb loading magazines, but as I've gotten older I have begun to struggle just a wee bit on those last few rounds which are always the hardest to get pushed in....
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Originally posted by randye:
Generally I don't have a problem thumb loading magazines, but as I've gotten older I have begun to struggle just a wee bit on those last few rounds which are always the hardest to get pushed in....


Good to hear that I'm not alone about loading up the last couple of bullets. I'm new with guns, this is a good thread.
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Randye,

Regarding the compensator...They do work. They do help cut down on the muzzle rise and do help you get on target faster. The thing is, the more pressure the cartridge makes, the more efficient they are. i.e. They work better with a 38 super a hot loaded 9mm or a 40 cal than they do with a normal 9mm or a 45 ACP.
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