I've been seeing a lot of GM job postings lately that want DFSS Certification (Design For Six Sigma). Does anyone know which certification(s) they recognize? There are so many out there it's ridiculous.

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I'd imagine you could narrow it down to the Six Sigma(s) that are applicable to your skillset and the job(s) your seeking.

Are they looking for Green Belts or Black Belts?

It would probably depend on the position you are applying for, as to your qualification level. I think want they are looking for is if you can document that you've had the training, and secondly if you've used it in your job.

I can tell you from my experience at GM that as a Design Release Engineer, you will never have the time to use Six Sigma due to extreme work load. I never advanced past green belt in Six Sigma for this reason alone, and all the Engineers I worked with were in the same position.

Now if GM had a Specific Six Sigma Group, that only dealt with doing Six Sigma Analysis, that would be another story, but I know of no such group (doesn't mean they don't have one at this time).

Looking for an entry-level technician or engineering job.

http://careers.gm.com/job-s...pply.html#university

Similar to this one, which lists it under 'preferred'

http://jobs.gm.com/job/Warr...ob-MI-48088/2281949/

I don't want to discourage you from applying directly to GM, but you may stand a better chance with Automotive Contract Houses, as getting a direct hire by GM is pretty stringent, and they generally want people who have already had job experience in automotive.

Get your Resume out to places like Aerotek, RCO Engineering, etc., as they are more in tune with the many position possibility's at GM. While the benefits aren't as great, they are not far off, and you'll probably get a better pay rate. That and GM is still hiring more "Contract Workers" than direct hires.

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Six Sigma is more after the fact with monitoring and finding improvements to the current process/product. Design for Six Sigma is more front end focused for use while developing products/processes. Since nothing exists at this point, it isn't as math intensive. Its more like a general overview of Six Sigma and how you keep the Six Sigma process in mind as you work on creating something new that will be subjected to six sigma at a later date.

It is similar in nature to Robust Design... do as much as you can up front to build quality into the design vs. trying to isolate out the defects at the manufacturing level.


http://www.6sigma.us/design-for-six-sigma-dfss.php

quote Design for Six Sigma (DFSS) Developing innovative products or services can be tricky, and Six Sigma may not be enough to ensure your customers receive a defect free outcome. In order to meet consumer expectations, you need a methodology that is based on product and service development. The answer is DFSS or Design for Six Sigma. This training employs the methodologies used to improve products, processes, or services which are already available, but it adds some extra elements that incorporate customer input and testing to help predict a process or products performance. DFSS combines many of the tools used to improve existing products or services while integrating the voice of the customer, as well as simulation methods to predict new process and product performance. This specialized program is referred to as Design for Six Sigma training (DFSS). Students that are involved in marketing or product development will benefit the most from this training. There is no prior Six Sigma training required, although Six Sigma Green Belts and Black Belts will find the lessons extremely helpful and informative. Design for Six Sigma Training Topics •DFSS - StageGate Process •Value Propositions •Creating Value for Customers •Customer Involvement •Voice of the Customer (VOC) Overview •Creating Customer Requirements •Introduction to QFD (Quality Function Deployment)

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quote Originally posted by California Kid: I don't want to discourage you from applying directly to GM, but you may stand a better chance with Automotive Contract Houses, as getting a direct hire by GM is pretty stringent, and they generally want people who have already had job experience in automotive. Get your Resume out to places like Aerotek, RCO Engineering, etc., as they are more in tune with the many position possibility's at GM. While the benefits aren't as great, they are not far off, and you'll probably get a better pay rate. That and GM is still hiring more "Contract Workers" than direct hires.

Yep, I get what you're saying. Everyone wants 2+ years expereince. Aerotek and Kelly Services have been completely worthless so far, they like to call and ask if I know somebody looking for a job