Not like alarming voices telling you to do something, just your own voice just kinda loud?
I used to have it in high school a lot... thought I pretty much shut it out. They came a lot with ice pick headaches.
They don't tell me to do anything.. it's not alarming or anything! Just my own voice. It pretty much is just an anxious rush, tells me to hurry up, that I need to finish now, etc. Then I try and stop it and it's like my thoughts just come screaming at me like "I can't stop it, oh no, what am I going to do about this?" I feel really anxious and rushed, then it eventually just stops and I don't hear anything but normal, calm thoughts.
Anyone have anything like this? Again, these aren't different voices, it doesn't have a different personality or anything. My thoughts on it until today were: Everyone has the potential to go crazy. Some people manage it, others don't. I thought I built up a pretty good wall against it, like I "beat" the crazy in me, and that that meant I was just like everyone else. I beat the crazy. Others don't and end up in a ward, or they don't and are just unstable.
Well, they came back today. Only for a little bit, when I was doing some work on Excel for a project. My roommate has textbook anxiety, takes medicine for it and all, so I thought maybe this is what it was like to have anxiety. But, I asked him, and he said he's never had that happen. I don't know, maybe I'm identifying something that's not there. I just want to know if anyone else has experienced this, or heard about this maybe.
Any thoughts? No, I'm not angry or nuts or anything. I probably won't see a doctor unless it starts happening a lot again.
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When I read something or I write something I hear my voice in my head saying the words I am reading or writing. Or when I am thinking about a situation planning what I would say or musing over an idea I will hear the thoughts in my voice. However, I don't hear my voice in my head on it's own it has to be because I'm thinking something and verbalising it to myself. The idea of "hurry up and get this finished" does happen when I'm working on something, it's more just a verbalisation in my head of what I'm doing so I don't find it alarming at all.
Curious, you mentioned ice pick headaches. Do you still get them? How often? How long do they last? Centralized in one specific spot on your head or do they happen in various regions? If they are always in the same are, get checked out. I tumor, swelling or bleed applying pressure in one area can manifest like an ice pick headache, when that isn't what it is. Generally ice pick headaches happen towards the front of your head and around the sides, basically from behing your eyes to around the ear area and over the top of your head. Sometimes they will happen in the back portion of your head but not as often. I have ice pick headaches and they happen on both sides of my head in those areas a couple of times a day. THEY SUCK! I hate them but there isn't really anything that can be done about them. There are medications that can help to reduce their occurances, I take one of them (Voltarin) for both my ice pick headaches and my arthrits.
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it's not alarming or anything! Just my own voice. It pretty much is just an anxious rush, tells me to hurry up, that I need to finish now, etc..
Sounds like a panic attack, anxiety. You can get those and not feel like you are anxious too. Sort of like dreams are supposed to tell you things subconciously. Body saying something.
I never had sound, but rarely as a kid I had something visually, like things coming at me, like when you bubble a photoshop image. Just split second things. A weird feeling.
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The only time I hear the voice you describe is when it is asking 'What should I do?" It drowns everything else out until I figure out what to do.
No other times, no other voice, but it happens everyday. Even when deciding whats for dinner. It takes centerstage hostage until it is answered.
Yeah, exactly. It's like, if I don't rush and finish whatever I'm doing, it just seems to get louder and I can't concentrate on anything else.
I just did some reading online. I am probably going to go see the psychologist at my school tomorrow now (don't have time today). It's free so I might as well. No real reason not to haha.
When I read something or I write something I hear my voice in my head saying the words I am reading or writing. Or when I am thinking about a situation planning what I would say or musing over an idea I will hear the thoughts in my voice. However, I don't hear my voice in my head on it's own it has to be because I'm thinking something and verbalising it to myself. The idea of "hurry up and get this finished" does happen when I'm working on something, it's more just a verbalisation in my head of what I'm doing so I don't find it alarming at all.
Curious, you mentioned ice pick headaches. Do you still get them? How often? How long do they last? Centralized in one specific spot on your head or do they happen in various regions? If they are always in the same are, get checked out. I tumor, swelling or bleed applying pressure in one area can manifest like an ice pick headache, when that isn't what it is. Generally ice pick headaches happen towards the front of your head and around the sides, basically from behing your eyes to around the ear area and over the top of your head. Sometimes they will happen in the back portion of your head but not as often. I have ice pick headaches and they happen on both sides of my head in those areas a couple of times a day. THEY SUCK! I hate them but there isn't really anything that can be done about them. There are medications that can help to reduce their occurances, I take one of them (Voltarin) for both my ice pick headaches and my arthrits.
Nope, I haven't since high school. I used to get them about once a week. They happened at my left temple. They don't happen anymore but I pretty much always associated them with what I described in the thread. They went away the same time as the voices. EDIT: Oh, and they only lasted a few seconds. Around 3-5 probably.
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Sounds like a panic attack, anxiety. You can get those and not feel like you are anxious too. Sort of like dreams aer supposed to tell you things subconciously.
I never had sound, but rarely as a kid I had something visually, like things coming at me, like when you bubble a photoshop image. Just split second things. A weird feeling.
That's what I described them as before. I just wasn't sure if that is actually what it was. Thanks for making me feel better haha. I don't feel anxious right now.. pretty calm. But when it happens I do feel panic. Probably just a panic attack.
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I am probably going to go see the psychologist at my school tomorrow ...
Good decision. Consulting an expert is usually a good idea. Be sure to mention your sleep irregularities, too. Don't be surprised if the psychologist refers you to a psychiatrist and/or a neurologist to try to determine if there may be a physiological basis for your symptoms.
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“The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.”
-- Aldous Huxley
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[QUOTE]“The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.”
-- Aldous Huxley
Not bad.
"Before I speak, I have something important to say. " Groucho Marx
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member. " Groucho Marx
"Well, Art is Art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now you tell me what you know. " Groucho Marx
I always thought Groucho fit that description of normal-abnormal.
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I express myself with words in my mind so you could say I hear a voice, it is my own voice.
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Trying to think about his though, I would say if ti is described as a voice it is an imagined voice, I mean I dont actually hear anything. Like Nurbs said I would describe my thought more as concepts than even to say my own voice. But then Admittedly I am weird.
I talked to the psychiatrist. Since I only had a few minutes, I'm to e-mail him all of my thoughts about it in the next few days. He's going to then schedule a meeting and we'll go from there.
I express myself with words in my mind so you could say I hear a voice, it is my own voice. ...
Yeah, this is different. They aren't my conscious thoughts. I hear my own thoughts in the form of words, pictures, et. al. This isn't like that; I can't control these thoughts.
I talked to the psychiatrist. Since I only had a few minutes, I'm to e-mail him all of my thoughts about it in the next few days. He's going to then schedule a meeting and we'll go from there.
You just forfeited your 2nd amendment rights by even thinking of calling a doctor.
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No, not even drug induced. Even if its my 'own thoughts' its not normally words but concepts instead.
Do me a favor? I'm going to type a word. When you read it, I will then ask you about it okay?
Here is the word. . . . . Different . . . Now, When you read that word, did you read it as the word "Different" or did you veiw two objects in your mind that were not the same?
Lets try another? . Blue . Did you visualize the color, or did you read the word blue as it would sound if someone said it?
I'm just curious, as it's hard for me to see how a mind would work in concepts rather than words. I mean if I read the sentence "This blue car is different from that blue car." I would read the words. I wouldn't veiw the sentence as a concept of: a group with a specific item highlighted, a feild of a specific color, a vehicle of some random make and model, something that exists next to something that does not, two items that are not like each other, the location some item originated at, again a group of items with one highlighted specifically, again a feild of a specific color ending with another vehicle of some random make and model. Or maybe I just don't understand what you mean by "concept"?
Do me a favor? I'm going to type a word. When you read it, I will then ask you about it okay?
Here is the word. . . . . Different . . . Now, When you read that word, did you read it as the word "Different" or did you veiw two objects in your mind that were not the same?
Lets try another? . Blue . Did you visualize the color, or did you read the word blue as it would sound if someone said it?
I'm just curious, as it's hard for me to see how a mind would work in concepts rather than words. I mean if I read the sentence "This blue car is different from that blue car." I would read the words. I wouldn't veiw the sentence as a concept of: a group with a specific item highlighted, a feild of a specific color, a vehicle of some random make and model, something that exists next to something that does not, two items that are not like each other, the location some item originated at, again a group of items with one highlighted specifically, again a feild of a specific color ending with another vehicle of some random make and model. Or maybe I just don't understand what you mean by "concept"?
My sister has Synesthesia. She sees letters and words in color. When she thinks about numbers, colors. She's an artist by trade so I guess it worked out for her.
I think we can all agree there is always a running narrative in our heads. You say you aren't thinking the thoughts but they are there. Well, it sounds to me like you might be focusing on that narrative we all have and now you are starting to think something is wrong.
I have only heard voices once and it was during a very high fever (more like someone grumbling) but I could clearly see the difference between those voices and my internal narrative. I call "hearing voices" as sounding like someone is talking into my ear like they are physically present vs. the internal narrative of our thoughts rolling through questions, ideas and fantasies.
You are right to get it checked out but your description doesn't strike me as unusual. Still, you know best what is normal and not normal for you. If only more people had the insight to question if everything was ok.
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Do me a favor? I'm going to type a word. When you read it, I will then ask you about it okay?
Here is the word. . . . . Different . . . Now, When you read that word, did you read it as the word "Different" or did you veiw two objects in your mind that were not the same?
Lets try another? . Blue . Did you visualize the color, or did you read the word blue as it would sound if someone said it?
I'm just curious, as it's hard for me to see how a mind would work in concepts rather than words. I mean if I read the sentence "This blue car is different from that blue car." I would read the words. I wouldn't veiw the sentence as a concept of: a group with a specific item highlighted, a feild of a specific color, a vehicle of some random make and model, something that exists next to something that does not, two items that are not like each other, the location some item originated at, again a group of items with one highlighted specifically, again a feild of a specific color ending with another vehicle of some random make and model. Or maybe I just don't understand what you mean by "concept"?
Its hard to explain. With the blue word i didn't think of the color either. It's far more abstract than that. Its 'blue'.. With the word, it was without context so it was just a 'thing' out in 'space'..
I call "hearing voices" as sounding like someone is talking into my ear like they are physically present vs. the internal narrative of our thoughts rolling through questions, ideas and fantasies.
If i try hard enough i can 'hear' music from my memories. But that isn't what we are talking about.
maybe I just don't understand what you mean by "concept"?
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Its hard to explain. With the blue word i didn't think of the color either. It's far more abstract than that. Its 'blue'.. With the word, it was without context so it was just a 'thing' out in 'space'..
I think maybe unless we are still learning language we probably overlook or dont "hear" the thinking voice in our head anymore. Its taken for granted.
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Its hard to explain. With the blue word i didn't think of the color either. It's far more abstract than that. Its 'blue'.. With the word, it was without context so it was just a 'thing' out in 'space'..
It's kewl. I am honestly curious. I figure different minds work different ways so it's interesting to try to understand how others minds work.
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I think maybe unless we are still learning language we probably overlook or dont "hear" the thinking voice in our head anymore. Its taken for granted.
Thtat's possible. I do know I've heard of people being called right brained or left brained. One side being artsy and the other more literal. Maybe it has something to do with that also? Artsy and you think more in concept where as literal and you think more in the word?
So, doc said that I was essentially mischaracterizing the thoughts that I was having as a voice when really I was just having a textbook panic attack. He gave me a few solutions, a few being medicinal solutions, and I basically said I was just going to play it by ear. If I keep having panic attacks I am going to go back.
Basically, no worries! He also said people who experience panic attacks often end up in a hospital thinking they're either going crazy or having a heart attack.
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So, doc said that I was essentially mischaracterizing the thoughts that I was having as a voice when really I was just having a textbook panic attack. He gave me a few solutions, a few being medicinal solutions, and I basically said I was just going to play it by ear. If I keep having panic attacks I am going to go back.
Basically, no worries! He also said people who experience panic attacks often end up in a hospital thinking they're either going crazy or having a heart attack.
FYI, I used to suffer from infrequent panic attacks. It is no fun, and the world is crashing down around you. Some advice... You are human. You are a good person. You can beat this.
Recognizing an issue is obviously the first step. Attacking the problem is the second step. You come off as a bright young individual. Often times it is the brightest minds that keep in the darkest secrets. Keep your head up. We are here for you.
So, doc said that I was essentially mischaracterizing the thoughts that I was having as a voice when really I was just having a textbook panic attack. He gave me a few solutions, a few being medicinal solutions, and I basically said I was just going to play it by ear. If I keep having panic attacks I am going to go back.
Basically, no worries! He also said people who experience panic attacks often end up in a hospital thinking they're either going crazy or having a heart attack.
Panic attacks are slippery devils (no pun intended.) Many start experiencing them in their 20-40's and they go away as fast as they started. Good move getting it checked out. Once you know what is happening, it's easier to manage and defeat them. Expectations.
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Its not this simple, but some things you can do to ease anxiety or likelihood of an attack:
"..relaxation techniques, such as breathing retraining and positive visualization, may help a person during an attack.
Panic disorder cannot be prevented; however, there are some things you can do to reduce stress and decrease symptoms, including:
Stop or reduce consumption of products that contain caffeine, such as coffee, tea, cola, and chocolate. Ask your doctor or pharmacist before taking any over-the-counter drugs or herbal remedies. Many contain chemicals that can increase anxiety symptoms. Exercise daily and eat a healthy, balanced diet." http://www.webmd.com/anxiet...ealth-panic-disorder . .
"Coping with anxiety can be a challenge and often requires making lifestyle changes. There aren't any diet changes that can cure anxiety, but watching what you eat may help. Try these steps:
-Eat a breakfast that includes some protein. This will help energize you throughout the day. -Eat complex carbohydrates. Carbohydrates are thought to increase the amount of serotonin in your brain, which has a calming effect. Eat foods rich in complex carbohydrates, such as whole grains. Steer clear of foods that contain simple carbohydrates, such as sugary foods and drinks. -Drink plenty of water. Even mild dehydration can affect your mood. -Limit or avoid alcohol. The immediate effect of alcohol may be calming. But as alcohol is processed by your body, it can make you edgy. Alcohol can also interfere with sleep. -Limit or avoid caffeine. Avoid caffeinated beverages. They can make you feel jittery and nervous and can interfere with sleep. -Pay attention to food sensitivities. In some people, certain foods or food additives can cause unpleasant physical reactions. In certain people, these physical reactions may lead to shifts in mood, including irritability or anxiety.Try to eat healthy, balanced meals. This is important for overall physical and mental health. -Eat lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, and don't overeat. It may also help to eat fish high in omega-3 fatty acids, such as salmon, on a regular basis." http://www.mayoclinic.com/h...with-anxiety/AN01589
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