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VIN plate and title question for a Frankenstein car by Xyster
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I am contemplating building a hunting vehicle for myself and plan to use two vehicles I have at my disposal. I will use an SUV below the window line and a sedan top half, which amazingly has the same side window dimensions. Since I have titles for both and the VIN tag is located with the sedan parts that I would use, should I use that one? Or should I use the one that matches the majority of the vehicle? Or does it even matter?

edit: I am aware that the title must match the VIN plate I use and I have both.

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Report this Post06-30-2012 01:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for User00013170Send a Private Message to User00013170Direct Link to This Post
With kit cars it went with the frame ( or with a uni-body.. the 'shell' ) , so i would imagine its the same. But why not call your local D/BMV?

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But why not call your local D/BMV?


I just thought of it last night and the DMV is closed today.

 
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With kit cars it went with the frame ( or with a uni-body.. the 'shell' ) , so i would imagine its the same.


Then that would be the SUV portion. That's what I was thinking/hoping. This would be great since that part has a permanent registration.
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Report this Post06-30-2012 01:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
Whatever you do don’t remove the vin number on the dash. It is put on with special rivet’s YOU can’t buy. Take a close look at them and you will see what I mean.

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Whatever you do don’t remove the vin number on the dash. It is put on with special rivet’s YOU can’t buy. Take a close look at them and you will see what I mean.

Steve




What happens if you build a new dash?
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Report this Post06-30-2012 06:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for XysterSend a Private Message to XysterDirect Link to This Post
 
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What happens if you build a new dash?


That's what I was starting to wonder. I can take the metal flange with the VIN I need and weld it to the new firewall.
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Report this Post07-01-2012 03:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
 
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That's what I was starting to wonder. I can take the metal flange with the VIN I need and weld it to the new firewall.


Old chop shop trick, very old.
Just don’t let any of the welding of the vin tab be visible.
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https://doj.mt.gov/driving/forms/

Inspection Checklist to Certify that a Non-Conforming Light Vehicle is Equipped for Street Use https://dojmt-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/mv70a.pdf

Fact Sheet Used to apply for registration of a custom, kit, specially constructed, or street rod vehicle. https://dojmt-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/mv121.pdf
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Report this Post07-01-2012 06:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for htexans1Send a Private Message to htexans1Direct Link to This Post
The rivets for ID tags are called "rosette rivets" and are easily obtainable from many automobile restoration shops.
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So would this be considered a non-conforming light vehicle?
The definitions of custom, kit, specially constructed, or street rod vehicle could cause issues.

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The rivets for ID tags are called "rosette rivets" and are easily obtainable from many automobile restoration shops.


I expected those to be from the manufacturer only to prevent fraud. Interesting and now another puzzle piece to ponder.
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I expected those to be from the manufacturer only to prevent fraud. Interesting and now another puzzle piece to ponder.


I know when I worked at GM we had to count every dam one of those at shifts beginning and end. The guys who put them on were watched cameras everywhere. I was offered $50 bucks a peace for them from rather shady old friends who ran chop shops.

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I would expect that whatever dash you plan on using, is the vin for the car.
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:


I know when I worked at GM we had to count every dam one of those at shifts beginning and end. The guys who put them on were watched cameras everywhere. I was offered $50 bucks a peace for them from rather shady old friends who ran chop shops.

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Should be a way for a private individual to get them legally, just for this reason. I just might want to swap in a camaro dash, for example.. its legal but my tag would be invalid. hard to explain to the cop that thinks its stolen.
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Should be a way for a private individual to get them legally, just for this reason. I just might want to swap in a camaro dash, for example.. its legal but my tag would be invalid. hard to explain to the cop that thinks its stolen.


Last time I looked the DASH is not attached or I should say the vin plate is not attached to the dash it is attached to the metal under the dash. That is not something that should affect any dashboard change.
But yes there are legal ways to get them rosette rivets are available but not cheap.

http://www.cars-on-line.com/parts750.html


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Last time I looked the DASH is not attached or I should say the vin plate is not attached to the dash it is attached to the metal under the dash. That is not something that should affect any dashboard change.
But yes there are legal ways to get them rosette rivets are available but not cheap.

http://www.cars-on-line.com/parts750.html


Steve




I could think of several situations where it would be needed to get things 'right', between kit cars and total restorations where you had to recreate a lot of pieces. 45 bucks isn't that much if you are doing that much work on a car in the first place.
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