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With all this 'center' stuff going around.... by rogergarrison
Started on: 05-28-2012 04:08 PM
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This is a bit harder....

How do you find the center of a solid isosceles triangle so that it will balance on a single point....?

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

This is a bit harder....

How do you find the center of a solid isosoles triangle so that it will balance on a single point....?


Trial and error? Set the triangle on the point where you want it and load it to balance?
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Here it is !



10 points to who figures out why.
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Originally posted by Rallaster:


Trial and error? Set the triangle on the point where you want it and load it to balance?


LOL, but you know there has to be a mathmatical way to find it.

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Originally posted by User00013170:

Here it is !



10 points to who figures out why.


Because thats somewhere like M.I.T., or JPL where the brainiacs all are........

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:


Because thats somewhere like M.I.T., or JPL where the brainiacs all are........


Nope.

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:


LOL, but you know there has to be a mathmatical way to find it.


You draw a circle inside the triangle that touches all 3 sides of the triangle and the center of the circle is the center of the triangle.
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Report this Post05-28-2012 05:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeDirect Link to This Post
Centroid: The three medians (the lines drawn from the vertices to the bisectors of the opposite sides) meet in the centroid or center of mass (center of gravity). The centroid divides each median in a ratio of 2:1.

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Originally posted by Rallaster:


You draw a circle inside the triangle that touches all 3 sides of the triangle and the center of the circle is the center of the triangle.


Sounds plausible to me, but if you look at Randye's drawing, your center would be way off from his. Which one is right ? we would have to blow it up to larger size, cut it out of cardboard and see if its either or neither. Just by looking at it, with no real knowlege, I would think the center is going to be like his and closer to the largest side to balance it.

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a quick google for "centroid" will resolve this mystery of the universe.
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Hmm and i was thinking this was about the keystone in the arch on the building?
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Originally posted by User00013170:

Here it is !



10 points to who figures out why.


A water treatment plant in Toronto?
Does it have something to do with that specific geographical location being suited for balancing objects because of the earths gravity and rotation? Kinda like the make the broom stand up by itself phenomenon except localized.
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quote
Originally posted by randye:

Centroid: The three medians (the lines drawn from the vertices to the bisectors of the opposite sides) meet in the centroid or center of mass (center of gravity). The centroid divides each median in a ratio of 2:1.



Correct. Any two of the three sides should give the same result.


 
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Originally posted by Rallaster:

You draw a circle inside the triangle that touches all 3 sides of the triangle and the center of the circle is the center of the triangle.



Nope. That would be correct only for an equilateral triangle (or any other "regular "polygon). What you describe is called the "medial point" ... very useful for many problems from medical treatment to targeting nuclear weapons, but it's not the same as the centroid (center of gravity). For one thing, the centroid is not guaranteed to be within the object (think of a crescent), but the medial point always is.

The centroid and the medial point are guaranteed to be collocated only for convex regular polygons ... i.e. convex polygons with all equal angles and equal sides, Finding the medial point(s) of an arbitrary polygon (e.g. the map of a country, state, or county) is far from trivial. Consider a simple rectangle. It has only one centroid, but it will have an infinite number of medial points falling along what's called the "medial axis." An arbitrary polygon can have one or many medial points, and they may or may not be connected. Think of a symmetrical dumbbell shape, which has two medial points that aren't connected.

(I have just summarized something that once occupied several months of my life.)

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