Pennock's Fiero Forum
  Totally O/T - Archive
  what exactly defines a rat rod?

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


what exactly defines a rat rod? by cooguyfish
Started on: 05-08-2012 07:53 PM
Replies: 20
Last post by: Uaana on 05-09-2012 08:21 PM
cooguyfish
Member
Posts: 2658
From: Hamilton, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2002


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 72
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 07:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cooguyfishSend a Private Message to cooguyfishDirect Link to This Post
I will explain why I ask later, but what exactly is a rat rod to you?

-Brandon
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
FriendGregory
Member
Posts: 4833
From: Palo Alto, CA, USA
Registered: Jan 2004


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FriendGregorySend a Private Message to FriendGregoryDirect Link to This Post
A "whatever" model, brand, condition, that has a bunch of performance goodies for go fast-forward thrown at it (usually an engine, maybe a rear end, and possibly a transmission) with no regard to any other qualities of the condition of rest of the vehicle.
IP: Logged
cooguyfish
Member
Posts: 2658
From: Hamilton, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2002


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 72
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cooguyfishSend a Private Message to cooguyfishDirect Link to This Post
Fantastic

I have the crappiest looking saturn ever but it's mechanically sound. I also happen to have a complete turbo set-up for a saturn as well

I've been thinking of combining these two for a little while into a nice sleeper.
IP: Logged
Red88FF
Member
Posts: 7793
From: PNW
Registered: Jan 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 130
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Red88FFSend a Private Message to Red88FFDirect Link to This Post
For some reason I think of flat black primer and red steel wheels and a V8 when I hear rat rod.
IP: Logged
spark1
Member
Posts: 11159
From: Benton County, OR
Registered: Dec 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 175
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by cooguyfish:

I will explain why I ask later, but what exactly is a rat rod to you?

-Brandon


If it has a stuffed rat sitting on it, it's a rat rod.

IP: Logged
Old Lar
Member
Posts: 13798
From: Palm Bay, Florida
Registered: Nov 1999


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 214
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post

By oldlar at 2011-05-21


Rat rods seem to be unrestored cars of any vintage that have a good running gear. The photo is one that was on the Power Tour and was one in rather nice body condition. Some I have seen the bodies that are rust buckets.
IP: Logged
cooguyfish
Member
Posts: 2658
From: Hamilton, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2002


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 72
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cooguyfishSend a Private Message to cooguyfishDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Red88FF:

For some reason I think of flat black primer and red steel wheels and a V8 when I hear rat rod.


Flat black was on my list

I thought about painted wheels, but I am using aluminum wheels and I think painting those looks to cheesy


The official plan is to use my saturn, turbo it, put a side exit exhaust on it (it needs a need one anyways so...) white lettered tires (I have them, OR white walls if I can find them). Paint it flat black, maybe do some kind of graphics on it. Stuff like that
IP: Logged
williegoat
Member
Posts: 20783
From: Glendale, AZ
Registered: Mar 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 106
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for williegoatClick Here to visit williegoat's HomePageSend a Private Message to williegoatDirect Link to This Post
Hot rods, in the distant past, were home-built, stripped down, innovative, generally cobbled together by shade tree mechanics from junkyard parts; and were never finished. Rat rods are a misguided attempt to emulate that past, or just an excuse to not paint your car.
IP: Logged
tbone42
Member
Posts: 8490
From:
Registered: Apr 2010


Feedback score:    (23)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 127
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tbone42Send a Private Message to tbone42Direct Link to This Post
Regardless, I love the way a flat gray or red primer 'rod looks with good pinstriping.
IP: Logged
Formula88
Member
Posts: 53788
From: Raleigh NC
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 554
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
This is a rat rod.


This isn't.


Rat rod means more than "make your car look like ass."

 
quote
Originally a counter-reaction to the high priced "customs" and typical hot rods, many of which seldom were driven, the rat rod's beginning was a throwback to the hot rods of the earlier days of hot-rodding, built to the best of the owner's abilities and meant to be driven. Rat rods are meant to loosely imitate in form and function the "traditional" hot rods of the era. Biker, greaser, rockabilly, psychobilly, and punk cultures are often credited as influences that shaped rat rodding.

The typical rat rod is a late 1920s through late 1950s coupe or roadster. Early (pre-World War II) vehicles often have their fenders, hoods, running boards, and bumpers removed. The bodies are frequently channeled over the frame, and sectioned, or the roofs chopped for a lower profile. Later post-war vehicles are rarely constructed without fenders and are often customized in the fashion of Kustoms, leadsleds, and lowriders. Maltese crosses, skulls, and other accessories are often added. Chopped tops, shaved trim, grills, tail lights, and other miscellaneous body parts are swapped between makes and models. Most, if not all, of the work and engineering is done by the owner of the vehicle.

IP: Logged
BlackEmrald
Member
Posts: 2808
From: Spring, Texas
Registered: Sep 2010


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 08:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlackEmraldSend a Private Message to BlackEmraldDirect Link to This Post
Rat Rod's are just a style. Some people try to categorize them in to something they are not.

Here is a great example of a Rat Rod:

Click to show

Rat Rod's general refer to classic cars, (a lot of Model A and T's) but I have seen classic bugs in Rat Rod style and even big 50's and 60's cars. I thing the biggest defining thing is the "Patina" of the original paint subjected to 80 years of sun. A lot of people now-a-days use faux patina to replicate the effect.

Like I said, Rat Rod's are just a style, similar to people putting flames on a rod or Kandy paint and big rims, or even wide-body fiero's with gaudy chome wheels and Lambo doors.

Oops I forgot to mention Rat Fink is a huge influence on this style.

[This message has been edited by BlackEmrald (edited 05-08-2012).]

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
nitroheadz28
Member
Posts: 4774
From: Brooklyn, NY
Registered: Mar 2010


Feedback score:    (26)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 94
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 09:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for nitroheadz28Send a Private Message to nitroheadz28Direct Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by cooguyfish:

Fantastic

I have the crappiest looking saturn ever but it's mechanically sound. I also happen to have a complete turbo set-up for a saturn as well

I've been thinking of combining these two for a little while into a nice sleeper.


Sleepers don't equal to rat rods at all lol. Do you have the 2.2L eco? That'd be a nice 220hp ride.

I'm rocking a 3800sc powered fully bolted/ smaller pulley/ rockers/ tuned grand prix (base model SE with GT bumpers), and no one expects it. Everyone that I take for a ride is and everyone that I've raced has been no matter what the car haha. Its kind of fun trolling on everyone, but this platform is boring as hell. (FWD/Auto/crap handling).

Rat rods are pretty damn cool, the whole cobbled together and bare bones look is awesome
IP: Logged
skuzzbomer
Member
Posts: 7492
From: Nashville
Registered: Sep 2009


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 92
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for skuzzbomerSend a Private Message to skuzzbomerDirect Link to This Post
This:

CLICK FOR FULL SIZE
IP: Logged
cooguyfish
Member
Posts: 2658
From: Hamilton, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2002


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 72
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 09:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cooguyfishSend a Private Message to cooguyfishDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by nitroheadz28:


Sleepers don't equal to rat rods at all lol. Do you have the 2.2L eco? That'd be a nice 220hp ride.

I'm rocking a 3800sc powered fully bolted/ smaller pulley/ rockers/ tuned grand prix (base model SE with GT bumpers), and no one expects it. Everyone that I take for a ride is and everyone that I've raced has been no matter what the car haha. Its kind of fun trolling on everyone, but this platform is boring as hell. (FWD/Auto/crap handling).

Rat rods are pretty damn cool, the whole cobbled together and bare bones look is awesome


well, I am ok with just calling it a sleeper.

Or I could strip all the body work off as well and make it a frame that drives. I thought about going mad max style and stuff also. but either way, the important thing is that it will be a saturn, and it will be fast, and people won't expect it.
IP: Logged
cooguyfish
Member
Posts: 2658
From: Hamilton, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2002


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 72
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 09:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cooguyfishSend a Private Message to cooguyfishDirect Link to This Post

cooguyfish

2658 posts
Member since Mar 2002
This is the car we are discussing btw, sorry for the terrible pictures my friend took them and I don't think he knows how to take a picture at an angle for you to see more than just a small sample of car

But suffice to say, this car was rear-ended, and hit a deer. Also, a lot of the interior has been removed as well

Yes, that is a smiley face painted on the side (I thought it was funny )


I had to do extensive mods with a hammer to make the hood clear the headlight bucket
IP: Logged
twofatguys
Member
Posts: 16465
From: Wheaton Mo. / Virginia Beach Va.
Registered: Jul 2004


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 227
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 10:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for twofatguysSend a Private Message to twofatguysDirect Link to This Post
Call it a sleeper.

A Rat Rod is typically an antique vehicle that is pieced together from parts that would not be typically seen together.

Examples have already been posted, but I'm fairly certain your Saturn couldn't be a Rat Rod. Sorry man.

Brad
IP: Logged
Rallaster
Member
Posts: 9105
From: Indy southside, IN
Registered: Jul 2009


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 84
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2012 11:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RallasterSend a Private Message to RallasterDirect Link to This Post
To me, a rat rod is a car that's been pieced together to keep it on the road because the owner really couldn't afford to fix it properly. It's a car that may, or may not, be rusting out and be a complete cosmetic pile-o-**** , but is mechanically sound through innovative maintenance.
IP: Logged
spark1
Member
Posts: 11159
From: Benton County, OR
Registered: Dec 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 175
Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2012 12:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
Here are some more seen at Hot August Nights last year. I'll get more this year:

This one is almost too nice to be called a rat rod but it does have red rims:



This one is more like it:



A set-back on the frame is essential:

[This message has been edited by spark1 (edited 05-09-2012).]

IP: Logged
ray b
Member
Posts: 13990
From: miami
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 321
Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2012 12:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bDirect Link to This Post
a real hot rod owner not shop built
IP: Logged
rogergarrison
Member
Posts: 49601
From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 551
Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2012 05:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
To ME, it has to be a pre WW II car/truck, homebuilt out of parts from misc parts from other cars. They dont bother with fancy paint or upholstery...just bare minimum to be road worthy.
IP: Logged
Uaana
Member
Posts: 6570
From: Robbinsdale MN US
Registered: Dec 1999


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 138
Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2012 08:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for UaanaClick Here to visit Uaana's HomePageSend a Private Message to UaanaDirect Link to This Post
Harley Davidson of the auto world..

Loud, underpowered, style and performance has not been updated since 1949.
(Yes you/they can drop in an LTZ/LT1 etc.. but mating to skinny bias ply whitewalls.. it's a smoke machine) I won't even discuss what they call suspension on these things.

If that's your thing have at it, just not my thing.
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot



All times are ET (US)

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock