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General Motors Freedom Fighters! ~ A Gun In Every Hand! ~ It's Raining .45's! by Boondawg
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‘The FP-45 Liberator was designed for the United States Army in 1942 by General Motors. It was originally intended as an insurgency weapon to be mass dropped behind enemy lines to resistance fighters in occupied territory. A million were assembled. It was believed that if vast quantities of these weapons could be delivered into Axis occupied territory, it would have a devastating effect on the morale of occupying troops.



‘Only a handful were ever distributed. There is no documented instance of the weapon being used for their intended purpose.’

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Very cool. Much like the Sedgley OSS .38 'glove gun' (as seen in the movie Inglorius Basterds (spelling might be off on that).
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I know I seen this on one of those "reality" shows the other day. Auction Hunters maybe?

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If I could get an exploded view, I think I could build that.
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Report this Post05-01-2012 01:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tbone42Send a Private Message to tbone42Direct Link to This Post
Looks really effective. I believe it would take almost as much time to reload and fire one of those as an early civil war rifle...
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Now THAT'S a collectors item....

I've never seen one but would certainly buy it if I did.
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Report this Post05-01-2012 01:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kwagnerClick Here to visit kwagner's HomePageSend a Private Message to kwagnerDirect Link to This Post
I understand the reason but not the design. Wouldn't a derringer be simpler and cheaper to make, just as useful for its intended purpose (sneak up and kill the guy with the big gun, then use his), faster to reload, and more reliable (due to less complexity)?
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From what I've read in different publications, (Jane's, The Rifleman and Smith's) the purpose was to use it to shoot your target from up close, and then take their weapon and ammunition. I haven't seen any information as to how many were distributed.
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quote
Originally posted by Boondawg:

If I could get an exploded view, I think I could build that.


You wouldn't need one, its so simple you could figure out out in your head. However if you look around you will find machinist drawings. 9 and if you cant im sure i have them.. its not like they would be copyrighted at this point, and it was paid for by tax dollars anyway, and they are no longer registered as 'secret' )

@ about 7:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvEHu0O-5nw

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Originally posted by J-Holland:

From what I've read in different publications, (Jane's, The Rifleman and Smith's) the purpose was to use it to shoot your target from up close, and then take their weapon and ammunition. I haven't seen any information as to how many were distributed.


yes, that was their intended use. One shot, then take your victims weapon. If you need 2 shots, you are screwed anyway. i heard not a lot were dropped, a few thousand at most, but that wasn't an 'official' statement.

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Originally posted by kwagner:

I understand the reason but not the design. Wouldn't a derringer be simpler and cheaper to make, just as useful for its intended purpose (sneak up and kill the guy with the big gun, then use his), faster to reload, and more reliable (due to less complexity)?


No, as it was mostly stamped metal, almost zero machining. Quick, cheap, fast.
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quote
Originally posted by Boondawg:

If I could get an exploded view, I think I could build that.


If you used one, you'd probably get an 'exploded view'.......

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Originally posted by ryan.hess:


If you used one, you'd probably get an 'exploded view'.......



Nah, its a 45.. pretty low pressure cartridge.
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@ about 7:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvEHu0O-5nw



Very cool.
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No, as it was mostly stamped metal, almost zero machining. Quick, cheap, fast.


Interesting. How did they get the barrel smooth? Or was that the 'almost' part?
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iirc, it was a smoothbore, barrel just a steel tube. basically a glorified zip gun.
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Originally posted by Silentassassin185:

I know I seen this on one of those "reality" shows the other day. Auction Hunters maybe?



Yep, that was it. I saw it too. Close range gun only. Not very accurate.

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quote
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No, as it was mostly stamped metal, almost zero machining. Quick, cheap, fast.


Yep, a "cookie-cutter" gun.
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Interesting. How did they get the barrel smooth? Or was that the 'almost' part?


To me, it looks like no more than a section of pipe.
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I used to have an M1 carbine, semi automatic 30 caliber rifle. An off brand. My neighbor at the time, had an M2, fully automatic 30 caliber rifle made by General Motors. Stamped so in the body.
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Originally posted by kwagner:


Interesting. How did they get the barrel smooth? Or was that the 'almost' part?


That was part of the almost, and i don't think they were rifled or "properly" chambered, so could have just been standard stock they ordered. Simply cut to size and weld it in.

as long as it shoots once without dissolving, success...
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Originally posted by cliffw:

I used to have an M1 carbine, semi automatic 30 caliber rifle. An off brand. My neighbor at the time, had an M2, fully automatic 30 caliber rifle made by General Motors. Stamped so in the body.


If you want to talk about 'real' weapons, everyone that had machine tools were called in to help in WWII. Even toy companies.
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