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Obama bypasses Congress, funds Palestinian Authority by avengador1
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http://hotair.com/archives/...lestinian-authority/
 
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Isn’t it funny what you can find out on Friday evening about what our executive branch does? For instance, Agence France-Presse reported last night that Barack Obama bypassed Congress to send $192 million to the Palestinian Authority, claiming that national security required the US to put money into Mahmoud Abbas’ pocket:

President Barack Obama has signed a waiver to remove curbs on funding to the Palestinian Authority, declaring the aid to be “important to the security interests of the United States.”

A $192 million aid package was frozen by the US Congress after the Palestinians moved to gain statehood at the United Nations last September.

But in a memo sent to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, published by the White House, the president said it was appropriate to release funds to the authority, which administers the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

In signing the waiver, Obama instructed Clinton to inform Congress of the move, on the grounds that “waiving such prohibition is important to the national security interests of the United States.”

Congress deliberately froze those funds, and not just because of the statehood demand through UNESCO. Hamas, a terrorist organization, reconciled with Fatah and has rejoined the PA, which means we’re putting almost $200 million into the hands of a terrorist organization. The language of the Palestinian Accountability Act could not be clearer: “[N]o funds available to any United States Government department or agency … may be obligated or expended with respect to providing funds to the Palestinian Authority.” Obama literally waived that statutory language off yesterday afternoon.

The Times of Israel reported on the official White House explanation of why Obama did so:

The AFP news agency quoted White House spokesman Tommy Vietor as saying the $192 million aid package would be devoted to “ensuring the continued viability of the moderate PA government under the leadership of [Palestinian Authority] President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.”

Vietor added that the PA had fulfilled its major obligations, such as recognizing Israel’s right to exist, renouncing violence and accepting the Road Map for Peace.

Have they? They certainly haven’t done so since Hamas rejoined the PA in February. Hamas has refused to change its charter to recognize Israel or renounce violence, and certainly they have rejected the Road Map for Peace, which has been lying dead for years thanks to the PA’s refusal to seriously implement it. When Hamas broadcasts its recognition of Israel in Arabic — something that the PA has never done, to my knowledge — then perhaps the Obama administration’s claims can be taken seriously.

Andy McCarthy calls this a “triple play,” and slams this claim by Vietor as fantasy:

In the real world, the very immoderate PA has reneged on all its commitments. In addition to violating its obligations by unilaterally declaring statehood, the PA has also agreed to form a unity government with Hamas, a terrorist organization that is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. The PA continues to endorse terrorism against Israel as “resistance.” Moreover, the PA most certainly does not recognize Israel’s right to exist. Back in November, for example, Adil Sadeq, a PA official writing in the official PA daily,Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, declared that Israelis

“have a common mistake, or misconception by which they fool themselves, assuming that Fatah accepts them and recognizes the right of their state to exist, and that it is Hamas alone that loathes them and does not recognize the right of this state to exist. They ignore the fact that this state, based on a fabricated [Zionist] enterprise, never had any shred of a right to exist…”

In sum, everything Obama is saying about Palestinian compliance is a lie. Even if we were not broke, we should not be giving the PA a dime. To borrow money so we can give it to them is truly nuts.

The White House knows it, too — which is why we only found out through the Friday night news dump.

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White House Press Release

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Report this Post04-29-2012 04:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ToddsterSend a Private Message to ToddsterDirect Link to This Post
Is any more proof required that this man is dangerous than his own executive order to give money to a terrorist organization. That money will be used to kill innocent Israelis and Americans.
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Report this Post04-29-2012 04:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for twofatguysSend a Private Message to twofatguysDirect Link to This Post
Wow, that's insane.

I want to make sure I'm reading this right.

192 Million dollars in "aid" was frozen last September because the money was found to be going to a Terrorist organization.

President Obama just sent a letter to Congress saying that he didn't care what they thought, that he was sending the 192 Million dollars.

So did he send the money already, or was this just a letter of intent?

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I don't see why anyone is surprised here, as he has a history of going around congress when they disagree with him, and has even stated on the record that he thinks the office of the president should have official authority on paper to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, instead of the checks and balances that our founding fathers baked into the system.
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Originally posted by twofatguys:

Wow, that's insane.

I want to make sure I'm reading this right.

192 Million dollars in "aid" was frozen last September because the money was found to be going to a Terrorist organization.

President Obama just sent a letter to Congress saying that he didn't care what they thought, that he was sending the 192 Million dollars.

So did he send the money already, or was this just a letter of intent?

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By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7040(b) of the Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2012 (Division I, Public Law 112-74) (the "Act"), I hereby certify that it is important to the national security interests of the United States to waive the provisions of section 7040(a) of the Act, in order to provide funds appropriated to carry out Chapter 4 of Part II of the Foreign Assistance Act, as amended, to the Palestinian Authority.


if they don't have it yet, they will soon as this is an approval and order to do so, and not just a statement of intent for the sake of PR.
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How ironic he writes that according to the laws in the US Constitution, hes authorizing the payment....when he dont give squat about the Constitution. So soon our troops (or allies ie/ Israel) will be fighting Palestinian terrorists funded by the US. MAN, if that not at least a conflict of interest, I dont know what is. Thats like a neighbor telling me hes going to steal everything in my house so I give him a key and tell him Im going on vacation.

I still cant believe this bumbling idiot doing this crap is still getting support from ANYONE in the country. This guy smooth talks people like Jim Jones and they follow blindly. I hear that theyre going to start a phone campaign for him since he officially starts it here next weekend. Hes going to OSU to give the cool aid to students there. Probably tell them he will give them all free tuition or forgive their debt for their vote. When they call me, theyre going to get an earfull. This guy is the 3rd Anti-Christ.

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It's hard to believe there are some who still believe Barack Hussein Obama isn't a muslim. A must watch is the documentary Rumors of War III, which documents how since his inauguration Barrack Hussein Obama has been electing into his government a number of individuals with ties to muslim terrorist groups. The fact that he has now given 192 million to fund the terrorist PLA group just reinforces my belief that this man is the real manchurian candidate, and his goal is to ultimately destory America as you know it.

Here is some great reading on Barrack Hussein Obama and his ties to Islam.

http://www.theblaze.com/sto...-to-the-obama-admin/

http://www.theblaze.com/sto...nfluence-in-america/

http://www.theblaze.com/sto...absolutely-profound/

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Originally posted by loafer87gt:

It's hard to believe there are some who still believe Barack Hussein Obama isn't a muslim.


You're missing the point. It absolutely does NOT matter if he's Muslim or not. He could be Seventh Day Adventist, and it wouldn't matter. What matters are his policy decisions, and those are decidedly pro-Muslim, or pro-Islamist even. (to separate the radicals from the mainstream peaceful Muslims)

Arguing about whether or not he's Muslim diverts the attention away from the real issue - his decisions governing.
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Report this Post04-29-2012 09:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
Obama is and will always be a socialist. This was known even before he ran for president. His goal is to make sure we are well on the way to becoming a socialist country and those below him only want to help ensure this. The solution is to vote all of them out of office in November. If we don't vote, we will get the government we deserve from not doing so.
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Obama bypasses Congress, funds Palestinian Authority, by Veggiehead1, .
You guys actually believed his post, ? Was it his source, hotair.com ?
 
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Originally posted by Formula88:
White House Press Release

 
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I hereby certify that it is important to the national security interests of the United States to waive the provisions of section 7040(a) of the Act, in order to provide funds appropriated to carry out Chapter 4 of Part II of the Foreign Assistance Act, as amended, to the Palestinian Authority.

You are directed to transmit this determination to the Congress ...

He did not bypass Congress and he did not fund the Palestine Authority.
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Originally posted by loafer87gt:

It's hard to believe there are some who still believe Barack Hussein Obama isn't a muslim.



Some still think hes doing a good job and will vote for him again.


Tho OT, your comparing to 'carter' is a far stretch. Carter was actually quite intelligent,and just was inept as a president as he was in over his head. Regardless of the mistakes he made, he truly cared about this country and was trying... I cant say any of this about the current guy.
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Obama bypasses Congress, funds Palestinian Authority, by Veggiehead1, .
You guys actually believed his post, ? Was it his source, hotair.com ?
He did not bypass Congress and he did not fund the Palestine Authority.


The quote i posted was from the white house its-self, and he is clearly authorizing the funding.
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Originally posted by User00013170:
The quote i posted was from the white house its-self, and he is clearly authorizing the funding.

All that quote you posted, which is the same one I did, says that he feels it is important to national security to waive provision of blah blah blah. The only thing this press release is, is a public notice that he has instructed the Secretary of State to voice his feelings to Congress.
Why wouldn't the most powerful man on the planet do that himself ?
Only Congress can authorize funding.

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Only Congress can authorize funding.

What does the president use an executive order for?
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Was an Executive Order used, ?
The answer you are asking for is, .... pay attention now, is to order any in his executive branch to do something. Was that too hard for you to understand ?
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Originally posted by cliffw:

All that quote you posted, which is the same one I did, says that he feels it is important to national security to waive provision of blah blah blah. The only thing this press release is, is a public notice that he has instructed the Secretary of State to voice his feelings to Congress.
Why wouldn't the most powerful man on the planet do that himself ?
Only Congress can authorize funding.



The way I am understanding it the funds were sent, and a hold was put on them. Basically the check was written, and sent, it just couldn't be cashed. Then President Obama waived the hold,
 
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I hereby certify that it is important to the national security interests of the United States to waive the provisions of section 7040(a) of the Act, in order to provide funds appropriated to carry out Chapter 4 of Part II of the Foreign Assistance Act, as amended, to the Palestinian Authority.

See that part where he said it was a "matter of national security interest"?

It reads to me like he removed the hold. I'm sure there is a way to tell though.

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Originally posted by twofatguys:
It reads to me like he removed the hold.

Well then, if that were true, show me the link to Aveggiehead1's thread where Nobama bypassed Congress and placed a hold on the "so called" funds.
Perhaps Aveggiehead1's quality source confused 'yall here, ...
 
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Originally posted by Aveggiehead1:
President Barack Obama has signed a waiver to remove curbs on funding to the Palestinian Authority, declaring the aid to be “important to the security interests of the United States.”

He signed a waiver ?
 
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Originally posted by Aveggiehead1:
A $192 million aid package was frozen by the US Congress after the Palestinians moved to gain statehood at the United Nations last September.

Wouldn't Congress need to sign a waiver ? Congress controls he purse strings.
 
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Originally posted by Aveggiehead1:
Congress deliberately froze those funds, ...


Aveggiehead1, all I can say is that because of vegeheads like you, it's no wonder the left think they are the smart kids.

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