obsesesses over someone who hasn't spoken to you in over a year and has no desire to do so, is so jealous of you that they stalk your girlfriend and force her to leave a forum she barely had a chance to enjoy and force her to make her FB page private, post messages about you accusing you of the very thing you are doing, follow your every move wallowing in their petty hatred and enmity and all you want of them is to go away. But instead, they continue to stew like control freaks who have great ambition but no balls or willpower to act on that ambition and become winners in their own right. So they throw stones at winners while beating their chests yelling "why him and not me"?

Not speaking of anyone in particular, of course

I gots my own stalker. It gets old quick. No RESPECT. FAQ 'em.

Tony

So sad about your girlfriend. Did you meet her before or after you walked out on your wife and kids?


And Tinyk, you can't run around whoring yourself for attention and then claim to be a victim when.you get it.

Funny, I thought of WD while posting. I guess that I have two stalkers? Meh? i thought that he would still go after you Todd, but I never thought that he would bring me up.

I love this place. So many great folks to choose from, that out of shape jeffey doesn't even matter.

Fat and out of shape is no way to live there jeffey. Enjoy your obesity, and I will enjoy my chisled abs.

Tony

Enjoy your day folks. I am enjoying mine.

Edit: For those that take my shot at weight at jeffey to heart,.... please don't. I am not judging anyone about their body style. Just throwing shots back at jeffey because, well, he is so damn cute. I just want to hold him, embrace him, and tell him that it will be all right. He is just so dang cuddely, and nice. So very nice to the members here. He really does treat others with respect, and I adore him for that.

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Fat like a Sumo. Save your chiseled abs for the guys down at the Manhole. If you are such a bad ass, why did you turn into such a ***** after I took you up on your offer to fly me up and "teach me a lesson"?

I tell you what, why dont you come down to Monterey, April 15 there is a Toughman competition. 3 90 second rounds with 14 oz gloves and headgear. I would definately step in the ring with your drunk ass, even with a ucked up right foot. $50 registration, and we post video on the forum.

I know Todd is right up the road, but he is only good at blowing smoke. But I will take any of you on! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! COME AT ME BRO!!!!

I don't drink there smarty pants.

Tony

Drunk or stupid. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. There is a chance that even the most hardcore alcoholic will be sober some day, if only for a moment. You will always be stupid, apparently.

So, nice time.of the year for the Monterey Bay area. We gonna fight, or what? I'm a 45 year old man. You aren't scared, are you? I'm sure you can raise money to pay your way. I'll donate $5 to the cause.

quote Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Drunk or stupid. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. There is a chance that even the most hardcore alcoholic will be sober some day, if only for a moment. You will always be stupid, apparently. So, nice time.of the year for the Monterey Bay area. We gonna fight, or what? I'm a 45 year old man. You aren't scared, are you? I'm sure you can raise money to pay your way. I'll donate $5 to the cause.

Nice threats there jeffey. (Printed, and saved. You know, in case jeffey wants to sue me like he says he is. )

Tony

Threat?! You have got to be ashamed to be such a little girl. Inviting someone into the ring isn't a threat. And besides, I'm obese and out of shape, and you have those great abs. How can you claim to be threatened?

quote Originally posted by Toddster: obsesesses over someone who hasn't spoken to you in over a year and has no desire to do so, is so jealous of you that they stalk your girlfriend and force her to leave a forum she barely had a chance to enjoy and force her to make her FB page private, post messages about you accusing you of the very thing you are doing, follow your every move wallowing in their petty hatred and enmity and all you want of them is to go away. But instead, they continue to stew like control freaks who have great ambition but no balls or willpower to act on that ambition and become winners in their own right. So they throw stones at winners while beating their chests yelling "why him and not me"? Not speaking of anyone in particular, of course

If I rememer correctly, your GF was the one who decided to post her email here. What did she expect to happen considering how many enemies you have made here? Or do you still believe there are other ppl here with admin rights besides Cliff and gonna call him a liar again?


If you want to stir a Turd, Todd, you just make it stink more. You can walk away from someone you "have no desire to talk to" (hugh) or you can make a post to try and pick a fight, or at the very least try to escalate one.

Oh, I see you chose the latter. Clearly, by making this post, you are choosing the "High Road".

Edit: And look- you got Tony and Jeff fighting again too, even though this thread has nothing to do with either of them.

In before trashcan, where this kind of crap belongs.

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quote Originally posted by tbone42: Edit: And look- you got Tony and Jeff fighting again too, even though this thread has nothing to do with either of them. In before trashcan, where this kind of crap belongs.

We are not fighting. We are discussing life. No worries here. I still hope all have a great day. And I am betting that WD feels the same. We all will survive just fine.

And yes TBone, definately in the trash it should go. The dirty, ugly trash.

Tony

ibtl

quote Originally posted by tbone42: If I rememer correctly,

You don't, And 90% of the "enemies" I have made are now banned...10% to go.

quote Originally posted by Toddster: You don't, And 90% of the "enemies" I have made are now banned...10% to go.

Turdster: "A Legend In His Own Mind"

quote Originally posted by tbone42: If I rememer correctly, your GF was the one who decided to post her email here.

quote Originally posted by Toddster: You don't,

Actually, I DO remember correctly. If your "girlfriend" is stupid enough to list her email on a public forum for the world to see, she earned whatever messages she might have received being linked to you here.

Where at you ask?
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../056793-12.html#p443
From page 12 of the "Only post in this thread when you are drunk" thread,

Username:JeriBlueEyes (Click on "email" tab above her post to find):

mailto:XXXXXXXXXXerson@sbcglobal.net

I'm a nice guy and won't actually post it, but anyone can find it here. Just do a username search and click on the email link at the top of any of her 15 posts. This is not rocket science... well, maybe to you it is or you are completely in denial over her own indiscreet actions concerning her private information. You do know that YOUR email is listed as well, right? And THUS all sorts of info about you, including pictures is available for anyone to troll, right?

"In a word, EXPOSURE!" Sound familiar?

Before you get your panties in a bunch, remember, she and you posted that stuff. I merely showed where and what. You should remove that info pronto, imho, or at least switch to a gmail and not your professional email addy.

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quote Originally posted by tbone42: biodtl?

huh?

quote Originally posted by lurker: huh?

Beat it on down the line.

quote Originally posted by tbone42: Beat it on down the line.

thanks.
i'm surprised this thread has lasted this long. obviously started to rile someone, and successful. i guess the OP knows that cliff likes to have a life on friday nights.

quote Originally posted by lurker: thanks. i'm surprised this thread has lasted this long. obviously started to rile someone, and successful. i guess the OP knows that cliff likes to have a life on friday nights.

I know, I imagine he is actually waking up or getting ready to about now, so *tick tock*. Lets see if Todd can fire a few shots off at me before it happens for being the messenger because this is usually the part where he threatens to ride his posse on someone and get them banned.

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This whole thread:

quote Originally posted by Toddster: ... 90% of the "enemies" I have made are now banned...10% to go.

I predict that you're going to have a hard time getting Cliff P. banned. This is the same Cliff P. whom you accused of installing "double secret" moderators to thwart your vigilante "PFF cleansing" activities:

quote Originally posted by Toddster: I've heard there are 10 or so members with [administrative] access. ... That is a problem in my book but then again Cliff has never given a **** what I think so nothing will happen.

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: ... I would appreciate it you stop questioning my integrity again by insinuating that I allow other people any kind of administrative access to PFF while I have said time and time again I am the only one. Or is this like the time you were claiming I accepted money to let a banned member back?

(Cliick on the quotes to see them in their full original context.)

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You know what this thread needs? It needs a good ole fashioned...

quote Originally posted by tbone42: Actually, I DO remember correctly. If your "girlfriend" is stupid enough to list her email on a public forum for the world to see, she earned whatever messages she might have received being linked to you here. Where at you ask? https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../056793-12.html#p443 From page 12 of the "Only post in this thread when you are drunk" thread, Username:JeriBlueEyes (Click on "email" tab above her post to find): mailto:XXXXXXXXXXerson@sbcglobal.net I'm a nice guy and won't actually post it, but anyone can find it here. Just do a username search and click on the email link at the top of any of her 15 posts. This is not rocket science... well, maybe to you it is or you are completely in denial over her own indiscreet actions concerning her private information. You do know that YOUR email is listed as well, right? And THUS all sorts of info about you, including pictures is available for anyone to troll, right? "In a word, EXPOSURE!" Sound familiar? Before you get your panties in a bunch, remember, she and you posted that stuff. I merely showed where and what. You should remove that info pronto, imho, or at least switch to a gmail and not your professional email addy.

One would think that when I said you DO NOT remember correctly you would have checked the record. So let's all save some time and I'll just ask you to point to the thread where Jeri invited harassment? Or are you saying it is OK to harass women if they post an email address? Oh, and BTW, she changed her email address as a result. How was she to know she would be stalked by a creep here when all she wanted to do was be a part of the Fiero community.

But I'm all eyes and ears...let's see the post.

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quote Originally posted by Toddster: And 90% of the "enemies" I have made are now banned...10% to go.

Is that a warning not to mess with you?

I am one of the ten percent. Let's see how it plays out.

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: You know what this thread needs? It needs a good ole fashioned...

Now that's just plain ol' wrong!

Bringin' out the BIG guns, huh?

quote Originally posted by fogglethorpe: I am one of the ten percent. Let's see how it plays out.

10%er and proud. bring it.

quote Originally posted by lurker: 10%er and proud. bring it.

Same here.

I bet if we got all of Turdster's 10% to post in this thread, it would be over 200!

Do you need some help lifting the rock for you to crawl back under, Turdster?

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Carry on. I'll go look at another thread.

quote Originally posted by Toddster: One would think that when I said you DO NOT remember correctly you would have checked the record. So let's all save some time and I'll just ask you to point to the thread where Jeri invited harassment? Or are you saying it is OK to harass women if they post an email address? Oh, and BTW, she changed her email address as a result. How was she to know she would be stalked by a creep here when all she wanted to do was be a part of the Fiero community. But I'm all eyes and ears...let's see the post.

Who invited you to harass people here for their posts? Their beliefs? And you do it sometimes with such zeal and hatred, I don't remember you sticking up for those you attacked because "they wanted to be part of the community here".. how is someone sending a non-threatening message to an email address that was publicly listed here by that member any worse than you attacking "a lib" for posting their beliefs or opinions here? In my opinion, and I saw a copy of the email that was sent on your spin-out thread, what you do to members here is FAR more inflammatory than the message your girlfriend received. How is what you do more or less right or wrong? Others post things here because they are members, and you don't like and you attack them sometimes viciously with strong language and definitely hateful intent.

Did Geri invite harrassment specifically by posting her personal email here? No. But neither did any member you have attacked... harrassed here for nothing more than having a different opinion from you. You might say because they posted their thoughts on a public forum that they are fair game. I surmise because she posted her personal info here, that's fair game as well. Of course, what may bother you the most about this is it reflects on YOUR behavior as to why anyone thought to contact her at all, otherwise nobody would have given a damn. It's not like the other female pff members here get emails or pms from "creeps" otherwise we would hear about it.

Food for thought...

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quote Originally posted by tbone42: Who invited you to harass people here for their posts? Their beliefs? And you do it sometimes with such zeal and hatred, I don't remember you sticking up for those you attacked because "they wanted to be part of the community here".. how is someone sending a non-threatening message to an email address that was publicly listed here by that member any worse than you attacking "a lib" for posting their beliefs or opinions here? In my opinion, and I saw a copy of the email that was sent on your spin-out thread, what you do to members here is FAR more inflammatory than the message your girlfriend received. How is what you do more or less right or wrong? Others post things here because they are members, and you don't like and you attack them sometimes viciously with strong language and definitely hateful intent. Did Geri invite harrassment specifically by posting her personal email here? No. But neither did any member you have attacked... harrassed here for nothing more than having a different opinion from you. You might say because they posted their thoughts on a public forum that they are fair game. I surmise because she posted her personal info here, that's fair game as well. Of course, what may bother you the most about this is it reflects on YOUR behavior as to why anyone thought to contact her at all, otherwise nobody would have given a damn. It's not like the other female pff members here get emails or pms from "creeps" otherwise we would hear about it. Food for thought...

come on it is all that dam obamas fault !!!!!!!!!!! just kidding the old saying what is good for the goose is good for gander . if you serve cr@p expect to get some back

This thread by Toddster is about 24 hours after my thread and the lead-in is worded almost exactly like mine ! So I must assume it is in response to my thread.
I have been reluctant to post,but,he has called me a pile of dung,accused me of following him around (trolling) ,following his supposed girlfriend around (trolling again) ,accussing me of stalking ,being jealous(of what I don't know) .Did his supposed girlfriend make her facebook private?Was it because of an innocent E-mail from me (that has been posted by me on this forum) or by his actions? And anything else he can get away with,while he makes outrageous claims in almost every post.It should be understood, I don't hate Toddster,I hate what he does.I don't like him.If I hated him,I would be as bad as him.Toddster claims to have the knowledge of one forum member who has 5 identities who has given him 5 negatives.Isn' that lying or at least lying by omission,by not notifying the moderator? I could go on and on, but what would be the point? How do you defend yourself against a liar and remain honest?

Not familar with all the happenings going on with toddster, tony, jeff, etc.. but find it really strange that someone who runs a business don't keep their personal lifes off forums.. (IE: someone searching google for a real estate agent, finds a thread full of threats , dumped wifes/kids, angry girlfriends, sumo wresting after hours for sexual pleasure, etc....), etc..

Last year I did some security here at a campground and had to deal with a few very drunk local business owners, from dealing with them when they were drunk and mouthy, I wouldnt deal with them sober again at their businesses.. Because I saw their true colors.

One guy was an electrician I had hired to wire a few houses I built in the past and recommended him to a few since then. After meeting him after hours and seeing what kind of idiot he was , I would NEVER recommend him to anyone again. (one of them dumped their sewer on the campsite leaving the next day VS using the sewage hookup in the site, another robbed a bunch of boards from the fence their RV was blocking from view -- remains were found in their campfire (pressure treated wood too.. and they couldnt afford any spare brain cells)..... AND my former "electrician", removed almost all the wood screws from his sites picnic table as a prank.. good thing it was found before the next person tried using it and got hurt.)

Nowadays with the internet so popular, anyone can find out almost anything about people using a simple google search.. Its amazing people dont clue in before starting threads like this.