I have read that it is a tricky thing to do. This is a working Sony Vaio laptop running Vista. When I boot from the XP install disk, it says it cannot find a harddrive. When I boot the laptop up in Vista and then run the XP install disk, it says it will not accept the install becouse it is an older version of Windows.
Why won't it see the harddrive on the XP install? Why won't it allow the install of an older version of windows?
How do I install XP over Vista on a Sony Vaio laptop?
Type of XP Disk My advice - upgrade the Bios first. see if you can get it to boot off of a USB.
Also, get the XP drivers for it (especially the NIC)
You may find it's easier to get 7 on it then Win XP (It it's working w/ Vista, WIndows 7 may work bettererer... XP might FLY, though. or, could be a DOG, if there aren't any chipset or video drivers for it...)
I'd image the disk(make a backup of the exsisting(WORKING) environment, and then I'd play around w/ different OSes...*
*actually, I'd probably work on it awhile, and then toss it in a bin.**
**actually, I've been re-opening all my old bins, and working on the old stuff again...so I wouldn't "bin" this one...
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And be forewarned, I had a game that ran well on Vista (Crash Day) and will run on XP. Same system, all I did was install XP over Vista. I haven't ran into any other issues other than certain drivers.
Brad
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
My advice - upgrade the Bios first. see if you can get it to boot off of a USB.
Also, get the XP drivers for it (especially the NIC)
You may find it's easier to get 7 on it then Win XP (It it's working w/ Vista, WIndows 7 may work bettererer... XP might FLY, though. or, could be a DOG, if there aren't any chipset or video drivers for it...)
I'd image the disk(make a backup of the exsisting(WORKING) environment, and then I'd play around w/ different OSes...
Yeah, that's kinda what I read also. Alot of work just to help someone out.
Eh, I got a brand new copy of Vista, guess i'll just put that on....:shrug:
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1. Download a program called nLite. 2. Download all the drivers for your hardware, HDD, chipset, broadband, graphics, sound, etc. 3. Use nLite to create your windows CD with those drivers on it. 4. Create a copy of your Windows XP disk onto your PC (copy paste the CD).
-nLite will ask you for the directory of where you have windows XP -nLite will ask you then for what drivers you want to add (all the drivers you downloaded). -nLite will ask you if you want to add some more programs/drivers (you can add if you want). -nLite will ask you for a blank CD. (and then will write you the new copy of windows XP with the drivers you added on it)
5. Create Recovery Disk for your original operating system (in case something goes wrong). 6. Reboot and install windows XP as normal.
I have read that it is a tricky thing to do. This is a working Sony Vaio laptop running Vista. When I boot from the XP install disk, it says it cannot find a harddrive. When I boot the laptop up in Vista and then run the XP install disk, it says it will not accept the install becouse it is an older version of Windows.
Why won't it see the harddrive on the XP install? Why won't it allow the install of an older version of windows?
How do I install XP over Vista on a Sony Vaio laptop?
Most likely your XP disk does not have bootable Sata drivers.
You should check the laptop manufacturers website before formatting Vista, & make sure they offer XP drivers. Otherwise, it'll boot XP, but may not have audio, ethernet, & so on.
Most likely your XP disk does not have bootable Sata drivers.
You should check the laptop manufacturers website before formatting Vista, & make sure they offer XP drivers. Otherwise, it'll boot XP, but may not have audio, ethernet, & so on.
Myself i have never had any problems with XP on a laptop, even when it had internal SATA drives. its desktops that i have had to go into the bios and set compatibly mode on if they were going to run XP instead of vista or 7.
But that is just me, and i do admit lately i have got out of the PC hardware support world. Ill do networks and servers, but desktops are just a PITA to deal with due to the users, so i do it as little as possible.
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Posts: 25078 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
I have read that it is a tricky thing to do. This is a working Sony Vaio laptop running Vista. When I boot from the XP install disk, it says it cannot find a harddrive. When I boot the laptop up in Vista and then run the XP install disk, it says it will not accept the install becouse it is an older version of Windows.
Why won't it see the harddrive on the XP install? Why won't it allow the install of an older version of windows?
How do I install XP over Vista on a Sony Vaio laptop?
Why would you want to go to XP from Vista?
If you have the appropriate patches for Vista, it is VASTLY superior to XP in every single way.
Vista with it's service packs and updates IS Windows 7, with the only difference being a theme, and a few other programs that are missing like Bit Locker, etc (which you can add in seperately).
Don't go to XP if you have a Vista key.
If you have a Vista 32-bit key, you can actually install Vista 64-bit if you can get the proper install CD.
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Boondawg Member
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When you disable all the Vista specific stuff to make it more Windows 7-ish... it speeds it up considerably. Vista is also available in 64-bit which WILL actually allow your machine to run faster since it takes full advantage of the 64-bit technology that I assume your processor has.
If you're running a 2ghz Core 2 Duo or faster, I definitely recommend you go with Vista.
I'm interested to know what you prefer about XP over Vista... I actually REALLY like Vista.
This is coming from a guy who kicked and screamed when Windows 95 came out, and pretty much flat-out refused to switch from DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.
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Boondawg Member
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: 1. I'm curious what you prefer about XP over Vista?
2. If you're running a 2ghz Core 2 Duo or faster, I definitely recommend you go with Vista.
3. This is coming from a guy who kicked and screamed when Windows 95 came out, and pretty much flat-out refused to switch from DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.
1. For the people i'm building for, XP is about all they can handle. It's all they know, and barely that. And when they screw up their system again (and they will), everything I own and know is set up to repair XP. Makes my job alot easier. It's just better for everyone involved.
2. This is a very low-end system.
3. I did not want to give up Windows 3.1. I loooooooved that system. Then I loved Windows 95. Then Windows 98. Then XP.
Still trying to decide wether I like Windows 7 or not.
XP won't work on any machine w/ BIOS HD interface set to AHCI.
Need to set BIOS IDE/Legacy HD operation OR Need XP drivers to activate RAID/AHCI at setup time. (setup's F6 option) Likely Need a USB floppy and plug in the drive before you boot the CD. (F6 look for drivers on A: )
------------------ Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. (Jurassic Park)
1. For the people i'm building for, XP is about all they can handle. It's all they know, and barely that. And when they screw up their system again (and they will), everything I own and know is set up to repair XP. Makes my job alot easier. It's just better for everyone involved.
2. This is a very low-end system.
3. I did not want to give up Windows 3.1. I loooooooved that system. Then I loved Windows 95. Then Windows 98. Then XP.
Still trying to decide wether I like Windows 7 or not.
Ahh... ok, I know what you're saying now... yeah...
I just upgraded my mom to Windows 7. I used one of my "Family Pack" licenses. She likes it, but it took a little while for her to get used to.
My dad has been on Vista for at least a couple of years now, but it was difficult getting him off XP at first.
XP is kind of the one that I've never really fallen in love with. I don't know what it was, but it felled like a "MySpace" version of Windows 2000 (if that makes any sense).
I wasn't a huge fan of Windows 95... but got it reluctantly. I did however really grow to like Windows 98 SE. What was so awesome about Windows 98 SE (especially over 95 and 98) is that it seperated the RAM from the kernel and software. if an application crashed, it usually crashed the entire OS. But in 98 SE, you could escape a program, and it didn't affect the operation of the kernel.
Windows 2000 was really something awesome (in my mind)... and it was difficult for me to get off 2000 and go to XP.
I've still got something against XP...
I'm kind of a fan of Vista, even though Windows 7 is kind of the same thing.
I'll tell you right now... Windows 8 and I are not going to get along very well...
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XP won't work on any machine w/ BIOS HD interface set to AHCI.
Need to set BIOS IDE/Legacy HD operation OR Need XP drivers to activate RAID/AHCI at setup time. (setup's F6 option) Likely Need a USB floppy and plug in the drive before you boot the CD. (F6 look for drivers on A: )
Yup. I was just beginning to realize some of this.
1. For the people i'm building for, XP is about all they can handle. It's all they know, and barely that. And when they screw up their system again (and they will), everything I own and know is set up to repair XP. Makes my job alot easier. It's just better for everyone involved.
2. This is a very low-end system.
3. I did not want to give up Windows 3.1. I loooooooved that system. Then I loved Windows 95. Then Windows 98. Then XP.
Still trying to decide wether I like Windows 7 or not.
I still feel that 2000 was the pinnacle of Microsoft operating systems. Unless you want to give them some credit for their contributions to OS/2, until they took their ball went went home like cry babies. ( Xenix was also a real OS, but it was licensed from SCO and not a MS original ). And yes, NT was the 'test bed' for 2000, but it was just that, a test bed.
Before that it was 'pretend' systems, after that it was 'bloat' systems.
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You know, I've heard that before, but with all due respect, I've seen nothing that suggests that. I haven't been able to find any official Microsoft websites that suggest anything of the sort, even Wikipedia which would definitely hint at that.
Windows 7 is really a "fixed" version of Windows Vista that came out because the Windows Vista name had been so badly tarnished.
There is really, essentially, no difference between a fully patched Windows Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate other than a theme and App Locker and Bit Locker (which you can actually add, I think Bit Locker is even a free download for Vista).
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no2pencil Member
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Users are going to be most efficient in an environment that they prefer & understand best.
XP really has come a long way considering what the kernel has had to be adapted to handle for hardware. Remember that the initial XP kernel was released in 2001, & when you think about how far we've come hardware wise, there have been entire leaps & bounds. In that regards, Vista & 7 kernels are built from the ground up with the ability & efficiency of multi-core systems.
So it's really a matter of preference. It always is.
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Users are going to be most efficient in an environment that they prefer & understand best.
XP really has come a long way considering what the kernel has had to be adapted to handle for hardware. Remember that the initial XP kernel was released in 2001, & when you think about how far we've come hardware wise, there have been entire leaps & bounds. In that regards, Vista & 7 kernels are built from the ground up with the ability & efficiency of multi-core systems.
So it's really a matter of preference. It always is.
Yeah, I totally understand that.
The only bad thing though is that like 75% of the current malware out there affects Windows XP specifically. Windows 7 is like... resistant to something like 80-85% of the malware just for the simple fact that it's 64-bit and a newer operating system. But yeah...
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: You know, I've heard that before, but with all due respect, I've seen nothing that suggests that. I haven't been able to find any official Microsoft websites that suggest anything of the sort, even Wikipedia which would definitely hint at that.
Windows 7 is really a "fixed" version of Windows Vista that came out because the Windows Vista name had been so badly tarnished.
There is really, essentially, no difference between a fully patched Windows Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate other than a theme and App Locker and Bit Locker (which you can actually add, I think Bit Locker is even a free download for Vista).
I don't have them handy but even Microsoft made statements about the 'new kernel' in 7, but no such announcement between XP and vista. It was just an incremental upgrade. By default that wasn't MS slam, just marketing reality. They shoudl have called it XPse or something to be fair, but that isnt what the marketing team does.
Strangely enough server 2008 was based on the vista kernel, but 2008R2 was on the 7 kernel. Caused a lot of problems for us.
From what i understand all the versions of 8 Share a common code base however. ( and the same name space.. )
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Yeah, I totally understand that.
The only bad thing though is that like 75% of the current malware out there affects Windows XP specifically. Windows 7 is like... resistant to something like 80-85% of the malware just for the simple fact that it's 64-bit and a newer operating system. But yeah...
Give it a bit of time, once the user base is there to make it worthwhile, the 'badguys' will adapt. Oh, and there is a 32bit flavor of Win7 too.. Not sure about 8 tho.
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Vista and Win7 x86 can be force to run unsigned and old 32 bit drivers. Is one reason why Vista x86 had problem... Patch old drivers + Vista DRM = big problems. Windows Vista force all drivers, not just sound and video, to meet HDCP DRM Scheme.
Microsoft put pressure on OEM to sell Windows 7 x64 because 32-bit drivers can't be used. X64 force device makers to make new drivers.
windows XP was available in 64-bit but no one use it and the same thing Vista. OEMs were putting Vista 32-bit on their machines. many machines saw sold "Vista ready" couldn't meet Vista's requirements until Microsoft reduce the requirements so that OEMs reduce there Inventory of old machines and All machines could run was "Vista basic."
Originally posted by User00013170: I don't have them handy but even Microsoft made statements about the 'new kernel' in 7, but no such announcement between XP and vista. It was just an incremental upgrade. By default that wasn't MS slam, just marketing reality. They shoudl have called it XPse or something to be fair, but that isnt what the marketing team does.
Marketing counting: NT 3.1 to 4 NT5 became Win2K. Everything was called 2000 and not just MS either... XP is NT6 Vista became Win7. Win7 is mainly eye candy, more fixing problem, and minor thing to hide Win7 is Vista. Windows 8 is next...
Boondawg Sony Vaio Laptop? Model? RAM amount? It has Vista x84? Try Vista or Win7 x64. X64 has much less problems.
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Boondawg Member
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Boondawg Sony Vaio Laptop? Model? RAM amount? It has Vista x84? Try Vista or Win7 x64. X64 has much less problems.
I just went with a fresh install of Vista. I am not going to kill myself for someone that don't care, ain't payin', and will probibly end up infecting it all over again, anyway.
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no2pencil Member
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You could always run vmware or virtual box & just run XP within Vista. Scew all that 'compatible crap'. I have never seen anything work under Windows compatibility mode right anyhow.
You could always run vmware or virtual box & just run XP within Vista. Scew all that 'compatible crap'. I have never seen anything work under Windows compatibility mode right anyhow.
More complexity, too much for its intended target i'm sure.
