What a bunch of croocs. They didn't have any problem when the jokes were about others and not them, but when the dude starting cracking jokes about Mrs. Bush and others they removed them. Once again, "what's good for the goose....
"But when Brown started taking on the GOP's base, things grew tenser. He insulted Barbara Bush's appearance, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's Mormon faith, suggested former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty doesn't have a spine, and joked about former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Just when he was about to make a dig about Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) the comedian was ushered off stage."
Cannot understand the mentality here. No friggen funny guys, no golfing or tennis, just get serious. All of the folks hurting ain't doing none of that. Can't even understand the golf match this weekend when our boys are dieing in the desert, and folks here are fighting to keep some kind of existence.
Cannot understand the mentality here. No friggen funny guys, no golfing or tennis, just get serious. All of the folks hurting ain't doing none of that. Can't even understand the golf match this weekend when our boys are dieing in the desert, and folks here are fighting to keep some kind of existence.
The country is burning and they are fiddling..
Reminds me of this.
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In all fairness, Bush decided not to play golf not long after the Iraq War started. Didn't think it was right for the pres to be seen hitting one out of the sand while the the troupes were bleeding in the sand. Obama not wanting to be anything like Bush has played something like 72 rounds. Do your homework.
In all fairness, Bush decided not to play golf not long after the Iraq War started. Didn't think it was right for the pres to be seen hitting one out of the sand while the the troupes were bleeding in the sand. Obama not wanting to be anything like Bush has played something like 72 rounds. Do your homework.
Oh so he stopped playing golf "not long" after the troops were bleeding in the sand. I guess that makes it all OK then?
What homework is it I need to do regarding this? I only posted it because it is an great example of what you posted above, you said it "the country is burning and they ar fiddling...."
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I hadn't heard that it was after commenting on Bush or Bachmann, I only heard it was his inappropriate comments about Obama, which I did NOT find funny. Strange that you find it funny, though.
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Charlie Davis, who ran the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans last weekend, sends over a statement regarding the Obama impersonantor who made racially-tinged comments and mocked GOP presidential candidates.
The RLC is designed to showcase the top Republican leaders and ideas in the country - to talk about limited government, fiscal responsibility and rebuilding the American economy. Had I been in the room I would have pulled him sooner. We have zero tolerance for racially insensitive jokes. As soon as I realized what was going on I rushed backstage and had him pulled.
The timing of the comedian was particularly embarrasing for Louisiana Republicans, coming as it did a day after their Indian-American governor had warned party activists against leveling ad hominem attacks against the president.
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Charlie Davis, who ran the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans last weekend, sends over a statement regarding the Obama impersonantor who made racially-tinged comments and mocked GOP presidential candidates.
The RLC is designed to showcase the top Republican leaders and ideas in the country - to talk about limited government, fiscal responsibility and rebuilding the American economy. Had I been in the room I would have pulled him sooner. We have zero tolerance for racially insensitive jokes. As soon as I realized what was going on I rushed backstage and had him pulled.
The timing of the comedian was particularly embarrasing for Louisiana Republicans, coming as it did a day after their Indian-American governor had warned party activists against leveling ad hominem attacks against the president.
I've never really understood the point of having comedians do events like this anyway. Was it a fund-raiser event? As far as I'm concerned, politics aren't funny, and shouldn't be considered funny... if we think comedy is what is needed to get the non-politically enlightened people in our community involved, then I think we need a different tact.
I would probably make a boring president, or senator... because, even though I like to crack jokes all the time, there's nothing funny about serving your country.
After watching McLaughlin group this last week, I like the way the Republican candidate Jon Huntsman looks.. I look for moderates to vote for and rarely find any. He appears to be one.
Looks like he could take a lot of independents away from Obama if he were the nominee.
Anyone here like/have a beef with him?
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After watching McLaughlin group this last week, I like the way the Republican candidate Jon Huntsman looks.. I look for moderates to vote for and rarely find any. He appears to be one.
Looks like he could take a lot of independents away from Obama if he were the nominee.
Anyone here like/have a beef with him?
Only my opinion, but if a candidate does not enthusiastically energize the base he has little chance. But the anti incumbent mood if the economy is still in the toilet may overcome the tendency to not vote due to lack of enthusiasm. He did support the stimulus so I would have to hold my nose before punching.
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He is thinking that everything you just said is not true. And I bet he knows him better then you....
Just saying. I can see you are angry and worried for your country, but I know for a fact you can be a little more even-keeled then that.
McConnell isn't basing any of this on anything he thinks he knows about Obama. I don't have a clue what McConnell wants, but it certainly isn't because he thinks Obama's motives are pure and innocent. McConnell wants something, and is selling us out. And I know for a fact that you are not that naive to think otherwise. Politicians suck!
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These are all the programs that the Republican House of Representatives has proposed cutting. Read to the end. Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings. Save America 's Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings. International Fund for Ireland . $17 million annual savings. Legal Services Corporation. $420 million annual savings. National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings. National Endowment for the Humanities. $167.5 million annual savings. Hope VI Program. $250 million annual savings. Amtrak Subsidies. $1.565 billion annual savings. Eliminate duplicative education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually. U.S. Trade Development Agency. $55 million annual savings. Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy. $20 million annual savings. Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding. $47 million annual savings. John C. Stennis Center Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings. Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings. Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual savings. Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual savings Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings. Essential Air Service. $150 million annual savings. Technology Innovation Program. $70 million annual savings. Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million annual savings. Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings. Beach Replenishment. $95 million annual savings. New Starts Transit. $2 billion annual savings. Exchange Programs for Alaska , Natives Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts . $9 million annual savings Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants. $2.5 billion annual savings. Title X Family Planning. $318 million annual savings. Appalachian Regional Commission. $76 million annual savings. Economic Development Administration. $293 million annual savings. Programs under the National and Community Services Act. $1.15 billion annual savings. Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings. FreedomCAR and Fuel Partnership. $200 million annual savings. Energy Star Program. $52 million annual savings. Economic Assistance to Egypt .. $250 million annually. U.S. Agency for International Development. $1.39 billion annual savings. General Assistance to District of Columbia . $210 million annual savings. Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. $150 million annual savings. Presidential Campaign Fund. $775 million savings over ten years. No funding for federal office space acquisition. $864 million annual savings. End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services. Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act. More than $1 billion annually. IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget. $1.8 billion savings over ten years. Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1 billion total savings. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees. $1.2 billion savings over ten years. Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of. $15 billion total savings. Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress. Eliminate Mohair Subsidies. $1 million annual savings. Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. $12.5 million annual savings Eliminate Market Access Program. $200 million annual savings. USDA Sugar Program. $14 million annual savings. Subsidy to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). $93 million annual savings. Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings. Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million savings. Ready to Learn TV Program. $27 million savings.. HUD Ph.D. Program. Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act. TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years My question is, what is all this doing in the budget in the first place? Send to everyone you know.One More Mess
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Jul 18th, 2011
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Posts: 27104 From: Safe in the Carolinas Registered: Aug 2000
Still doubt the Tea Party's influence? Message to Speaker Boehner and the Republican establishment - we won't accept crap legislation and business as usual. Get with the program. Or get replaced.
Yeah, I heard that too. McCain needs to sit down and shut up.
Actually, I agree with his sentiment. Taking the ball and going home if you cant have it your way is despicable in this case. I get the feeling our fresmen congressmen would rather see our country topple if they cant have it only their way.
Governement is founded on compromise, tea partiers are acting crazy and wont do that. Nobody in this country will forget who held us hostage so they could have their 10 minutes of power disguised as concern for the economic welfare of future American Generations.
I am sure governement default will go a LONG WAY to helping said future american generations financially. (/sarcasm)
From yesterday's paper (and I live in a conservative Rural town.)
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Actually, I agree with his sentiment. Taking the ball and going home if you cant have it your way is despicable in this case. I get the feeling our fresmen congressmen would rather see our country topple if they cant have it only their way.
Governement is founded on compromise, tea partiers are acting crazy and wont do that. Nobody in this country will forget who held us hostage so they could have their 10 minutes of power disguised as concern for the economic welfare of future American Generations.
I am sure governement default will go a LONG WAY to helping said future american generations financially. (/sarcasm)
That's an interesting perspective you have. When they don't try to change things, you criticize. When they do try to change things, you criticize. The Tea Party freshmen GOP are trying to get the debt under control, but you accuse them of wanting to bankrupt and bring down the country "because they can't get their own way." Really? How the hell do you think this problem is going to get fixed? Or do you think that $1.5 trillion YEARLY budget deficits WON'T bring down the country? How about raising the debt ceiling, over and over? How about the $14+ trillion national debt, which will only go up by raising the debt ceiling?
Seriously, if the Tea Party GOP is wrong, how would YOU fix this?
That's an interesting perspective you have. When they don't try to change things, you criticize. When they do try to change things, you criticize. The Tea Party freshmen GOP are trying to get the debt under control, but you accuse them of wanting to bankrupt and bring down the country "because they can't get their own way." Really? How the hell do you think this problem is going to get fixed? Or do you think that $1.5 trillion YEARLY budget deficits WON'T bring down the country? How about raising the debt ceiling, over and over? How about the $14+ trillion national debt, which will only go up by raising the debt ceiling?
Seriously, if the Tea Party GOP is wrong, how would YOU fix this?
I, like many, believe the defecit will not be paid down by cutting spending alone. AND Huge arbitrary targets in spending cuts are not the answer, and thats the only tune the tea party is playing. If we dont do it only their way, then they will let the country default? How patriotic. And of course, the last 2 days they are screaming about not letting the country default in the 11th hour.. where was this concern last week when they were more than willing to let it tumble? I dont respect those tactics at all. So screw them.
I not only believe in conscientious, healthy spending cuts (In other words, unnecessary programs and over-fed programs but I believe, if we want to walk the walk, we are going to have to pitch in with more taxes....our defecit grows more slowly from spending cuts .. but STILL GROWS...
What would I do? Less tax cuts for the wealthy, cut out subsidies AND TAX BREAKS for record profiting oil companies and other wealthy corporations, cut all politician/ public servant pay to 1/3 and let them find their own insurance and retirement plan, like me. Remove farming subsidies for large and factory farms. More taxes on luxuries and unnecessary services and products.. that way you want to play, you have to pay.
I believe we will ALL need to pitch in more, not just demand more spending cuts and then not cooperate when we dont get it entirely our way like spoiled hypocritical children. Best interest of future generations ideed! Let it defaut and see what happens to their financial inheritance then.
If it defaults, we know who caused it. Not only did the Senate have a compromise plan, but so did House Speaker Boener. Yes, the tea party candidates were elected to contain out of control spending, but they were not elected to default our country, which they are TRYING to do in my opinion.
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Originally posted by tbone42: I, like many, believe the defecit will not be paid down by cutting spending alone. AND Huge arbitrary targets in spending cuts are not the answer, and thats the only tune the tea party is playing.
Taxes are already too high. Raising taxes on those who actually produce and create jobs will mean less production and fewer jobs. The government doesn't create wealth, it can only confiscate it. We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.
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If we dont do it only their way, then they will let the country default? How patriotic. And of course, the last 2 days they are screaming about not letting the country default in the 11th hour.. where was this concern last week when they were more than willing to let it tumble? I dont respect those tactics at all. So screw them.
The Tea Party does NOT want a default. You can repeat that all you want, it doesn't make it true. The Tea Party are the only ones taking the out of control spending seriously. The Democrats had 2 years of absolute power and DID NOTHING. The cuts that Boehner proposed weren't enough.
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I not only believe in conscientious, healthy spending cuts (In other words, unnecessary programs and over-fed programs but I believe, if we want to walk the walk, we are going to have to pitch in with more taxes....our defecit grows more slowly from spending cuts .. but STILL GROWS...
So *you'd* be willing to pay more in taxes? You know, you can write checks to the Treasury and they will accept them, right? Why aren't more Democrats doing this, if they love taxes so much?
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What would I do? Less tax cuts for the wealthy,
What is this bullshit about "tax cuts for the wealthy"? The tax rate is whatever it is right now. What was so sacred about tax rates before Bush cut them? Tax rates have been all over the place for many decades, there isn't any absolute baseline established that makes the current rate a "tax cut" below some imaginary standard rate.
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cut out subsidies for record profiting oil companies and other wealthy corporations,
What subsidies? Can you explain and document what subsidies oil companies get?
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cut all politician/ public servant pay to 1/3 and let them find their own insurance and retirement plan, like me. Remove farming subsidies for large and factory farms. More taxes on luxuries and unnecessary services and products.. that way you want to play, you have to pay.
I can agree with most of that. But be careful about arbitrarily taxing "luxuries" and "unnecessary services and products". There is no such thing as an "unnecessary product or service". If it wasn't necessary, then nobody would use them. And every product and service creates jobs.
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I believe we will ALL need to pitch in more, not just demand more spending cuts and then not cooperate when we dont get it entirely our way like spoiled hypocritical children. Best interest of future generations ideed! Let it defaut and see what happens to their financial inheritance then.
Not cooperate? Then why aren't you criticizing Democrats for voting against "cut cap and balance"? It would be the ultimate in smaller government. Why didn't they just "cooperate"? Or is cooperation only for those with whom you disagree?
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If it defaults, we know who caused it. Not only did the Senate have a compromise plan, but so did House Speaker Boener. Yes, the tea party candidates were elected to contain out of control spending, but they were not elected to default our country, which they are TRYING to do in my opinion.
The Senate plan was crap. It didn't cut anything, it was all smoke and mirrors. Boehner's plan doesn't cut enough. As for your opinion that the Tea Party wants default, you entitled to your own opinion, but I can tell you that it is simply wrong.
Here we go with "The Job Creators" Horseshit. They are JOB CUTTERS right now so they can continue to make their record profits. And thats without increased taxes. If rich companies want to operate or sell their goods here, they are going to have to ante up.
Oh and like I didn t see the "Well you can send more money to the government if you want to" argument coming. You guys are like one-sentence pull string dolls. We are all gonna have to ante up.. the math is simple. If you do not pay down debt, it grows, Cutting spending alone AINT gonna do it. Sorry.
Lots of goods and services are unnecessary.. just because you dont want to think does not mean they arent. Haircuts- Unnecessary Tattoos- Unnecessary Sportscars- Unnecessary Cellphone- Unnecessary .. lots more. Food and shelter and water are necessary. Some servicers (septic, well, electric) Are necessary. After that, if you arent willing to do it for yourself, its a luxury.
You think I am simply wrong.. well to quote one of the Right's personalities ... Ditto. We can leave it at that.
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There's an idea going around that the Tea Party are fenatics and that they're holding up the process of business. Like them, or dislike them, but one thing is for certain, had it not been for the Tea Party, we might not even be having this discussion right now. With each successive push by the Tea Party candidates, we have moved closer and closer to fiscal responsibility.
There is a lot of arguing because people don't WANT to support the Tea Party. Democrats want to believe that they are NOT fiscally irresponsible, and they want to show the hipocracy of spending under Bush's second term and say... "where were you guys then?" That's fair... but the simple fact is... here they are now... and they're fighting the curve. 75% of Americans want a balanced budget amendment, it only makes sense right? So then how out of touch really is the Tea Party then if 75% of America agrees with them?
Personally, if a new party was created tomorrow that said they're going to be made up of fiscally repsonible people, I'd vote for them if I knew they'd win. Let's not let support for individual parties cloud proper judgement. Republican, Democrat, whatever it is... we need to cut spending. I AM very sorry that Obama had lots of plans to reshape America into one that he felt was more fair, and would be more prosperous. But fate as it might be, he came into a situation where the economy was on a down-turn, and instead of trying to fix that, he still tried to go forward with his plans as if he was going in under a time of prosperity. We can't do that... we've got to make a change. Everyone should support a balanced budget amendment... EVEN if that means prolonging the recession we are in now. If Obama supported and PASSED a balanced budget amendment, he would be remembred for doing something great. But he doesn't support it. He knows it would prolong the recession, and his fundamental change in America would never be accomplished. What he must realize however is that this change will not happen anyway because of the recession. It's time to put America on the right track... we need a balanced budget amendment. Revenues will increase again when the economy returns... but right now, we have to make do with what we have.
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Here we go with "The Job Creators" Horseshit. They are JOB CUTTERS right now so they can continue to make their record profits. And thats without increased taxes. If rich companies want to operate or sell their goods here, they are going to have to ante up.
How is it horseshit? If they don't create the jobs, who does? The poor? Unions? The government? Are you seriously going to make that argument?
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Oh and like I didn t see the "Well you can send more money to the government if you want to" argument coming. You guys are like one-sentence pull string dolls. We are all gonna have to ante up.. the math is simple. If you do not pay down debt, it grows, Cutting spending alone AINT gonna do it. Sorry.
You don't have to be sorry, just act. If you're worried about the debt, and you think you aren't paying enough, then PAY UP. Put your money where your mouth is. Why do you have to be forced to pay?
That's not a "pull string doll line", it's the truth. Nobody is keeping you from paying what you think you should be paying except yourself.
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Lots of goods and services are unnecessary.. just because you dont want to think does not mean they arent. Haircuts- Unnecessary Tattoos- Unnecessary Sportscars- Unnecessary Cellphone- Unnecessary .. lots more. Food and shelter and water are necessary. Some servicers (septic, well, electric) Are necessary. After that, if you arent willing to do it for yourself, its a luxury.
That would mean that anyone who doesn't want to do it for themselves are s*** out of luck. Should those who can't or won't start a business starve? Oh, wait, you're saying that many businesses are unnecessary. So what should people do without all those "unnecessary" businesses? Be on government assistance?
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You think I am simply wrong.. well to quote one of the Right's personalities ... Ditto. We can leave it at that.
I think you are wrong based on experience and research. Also, I don't think you've proved your point. What you say simply isn't true in the real world.
I think you are wrong based on experience and research.
None of which you displayed here. Thats like me saying "I think you are wrong because me smarter". Back it up, or shut up. I provided an opinion and a video and represented that as opinion and video. You provided an opinion and tout it as fact.
You will have to much more than say "I researched it and you are wrong" to even begin to convince me you are right.
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What you say simply isn't true in the real world.
I dont think you have any idea where the real world begins and your fantasy of an all Republican fantasy dream team government ends. You had it until 2006, and looking back it represents everything you are cvomplaining about currently. Bravo.
You created this thread to act like you are impartial, but mostly, its just for kissing their butts. Sure, you include a couple of outrage pieces here and there that dont line up with your politics, but for the most part I would not count you as capable of abstraction and ability to police the same political beliefs you prescribe to.
Good thing people like you were keeping an eye on things during the last "blank check" administration. Oh wait, bthat didnt happen! Instead, it was blind trust.. but now that your guy aint in there anymore, NOW you start asking questions and getting outraged. Excellent timing, once the damage has already been done.
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I said we'd be watching the Republicans and holding them to their word and their conservative principles. This thread will track them.
So far, they've kept one promise - to bring a bill to repeal Obamacare. Although it's not expected to clear the Senate or be signed by the President, this is a good first step to get rid of the Obamacare government health care take over.
WASHINGTON – The Republican-controlled House has voted to repeal the health care law President Barack Obama signed last year. The 245-189 vote marks the fulfillment of a promise many Republicans made in last fall's political campaigns
The measure has little or no chance of passing the Senate, where Democratic supporters of the law have a majority. And Obama has vowed to veto it if it reaches his desk. Republicans said repeal was necessary because the law provides for a government takeover of the health care system, raises taxes and would destroy jobs.
Democrats denied that, and said repeal would strip Americans of new protections against insurance industry abuses that deny them coverage they have paid for.
While you're pointing figers at Democrats and Republicans, what provision have you made foir Thieves? That's what you are, you know - a thief. Not even a petty thief; you like to steal cars. Yes, you do and I can prove it. How can you show your face here?
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While you're pointing figers at Democrats and Republicans, what provision have you made foir Thieves? That's what you are, you know - a thief. Not even a petty thief; you like to steal cars. Yes, you do and I can prove it. How can you show your face here?
Obviously, you've got a problem with fierobear. Fine, it's between you and him. If you feel you must, get it out there in the open, work it out or what ever. Start your own thread where he can respond one way or another or don't but, this is the second thread I've come across with you posting your accusation. I hope I don't keep running into this ruining every thread I read. No doubt this is an important issue for you, I don't care if you start your own thread but, I'd hope you guys can work it out. I don't have a need to go there though and I surely don't need to read about it in every thread I open. Not intended as a flame, I just don't want every thread to end up in the trashcan.
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Second thread? He has pissed, moaned and lied in 12 threads that I have seen so far. Here is the other side to this story. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/087158.html I say he should be banned for doing so.
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Second thread? He has pissed, moaned and lied in 12 threads that I have seen so far. Here is the other side to this story. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/087158.html I say he should be banned for doing so.
Thanks for the insight, I don't read every thread so I wasn't aware of the situation. It was actually the second thread this morning with the same stuff that I had read, it was getting old.
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Second thread? He has pissed, moaned and lied in 12 threads that I have seen so far. Here is the other side to this story. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/087158.html I say he should be banned for doing so.
My wife covered the situation pretty well while I was at work, and the thread got closed before I had a chance to comment. She left out a few details.
After Whuffo moved, he left his cars here on the paved parking area and didn't leave the keys. I made several attempts to set up a day and time with Whuffo to HELP him move the cars. I can count at least 3 days where we agreed that we'd deal with it, I set aside the time, then didn't hear a damn thing. No call, no email. At no time during that month did he ask for more time, offer to pay to store the cars, or make any other arrangements whatsoever.
This correspondence about the cars took place over the course of a month. He moved out the first week of November, 2009, and I had the cars towed the first week of December, 2009.
After the third day of this horseshit, he sent me a threatening email accusing me of stealing stuff from him while he lived here, and that he wouldn't do anything about the cars until the "other matter was resolved". He also said that I'D BE RESPONSIBLE for his cars, and anything that might happen to them, while they were on my property. Well, that was the last straw, my patience had run out. So I figured - OK, jackass, you think you can threaten me AND make me store your cars for you AND tell me I'm responsible for them? Really? The next day, I called a local towing company and had his cars removed.
The bad thing for whuffo was that he never transferred one of the cars to his name and address, and the other he didn't bother to update the address with the DMV. The towing company contacts the owner on the title, period. I knew that they wouldn't have his new address (the one after he moved out from my house). So I gave whuffo's name, address and cell number to the tow driver. I also called the towing company's office and gave his contact information to their office. A few days later, I sent whuffo an email informing him that I had his cars towed, and I gave him the name, address and phone number of the towing company. After a waiting period (I think it is 30 days), the towing company lien sold the cars to other people. I gained nothing from this, and was stuck with a $300 towing bill. I was going to let that go, but now it looks like I'll have to address that as well.
So that's how he figures his cars were "stolen". He left them here, made no arrangements to store or move them, and issued threats. I had them lawfully towed away. End of story.
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Two thumbs down, McConnell... 
What is McConnell thinking?
