My 6 year old daughter was talking to her classmates yesterday when a little boy said he was going to marry her some day. When my daughter told him no, he responded with "then I will kill you're daddy."
Kids can be so cute.
So here is where it gets good; we live in Montan where most peope own guns and many children know how to shoot. Despite this, the teacher said "well, I was going to look into it tomorrow because I heard some of the other children commenting on it." Was this really the kind of thing that should wait?
I might. I am going to give the school the oppertunity to rectify this first. If it is a good kid that has never been in trouble, and was saying something from a movi/tv/etc I wouldn't want his school carrer to get derailed. On the flipside, if he is a little turd, let the school call the cops. If they don't, then I will. When I go to the school today, I will investigate and find what course of action has been taken and what if anything still needs to be done.
I might. I am going to give the school the oppertunity to rectify this first. If it is a good kid that has never been in trouble, and was saying something from a movi/tv/etc I wouldn't want his school carrer to get derailed. On the flipside, if he is a little turd, let the school call the cops. If they don't, then I will. When I go to the school today, I will investigate and find what course of action has been taken and what if anything still needs to be done.
Are you guys putting me on? He is 6, don't report this to the police. I wouldn't think anything about a kid saying something like that. I cannot even believe anyone would report this to the police. I am sure I said things like that when I was six. I also played with toy guns and GI Joes and Ninja Turtles and violent video games. I grew up to be a functioning contributing member of society. I've never even been arrested or had anything more than a vehicular citation, 12 years ago. Unless the child has been displaying psychopathic tendencies, drop it and move on.
This PC world. Makes me worried for future generations.
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11:00 AM
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Posts: 1444 From: Great Falls MT Registered: Apr 2011
Are you guys putting me on? He is 6, don't report this to the police. I wouldn't think anything about a kid saying something like that. I cannot even believe anyone would report this to the police. I am sure I said things like that when I was six. I also played with toy guns and GI Joes and Ninja Turtles and violent video games. I grew up to be a functioning contributing member of society. I've never even been arrested or had anything more than a vehicular citation, 12 years ago. Unless the child has been displaying psychopathic tendencies, drop it and move on.
This PC world. Makes me worried for future generations.
If this was Kalifornia or (my old state) NY, where a smaller percentage of people own fire arms this would be less alarming. However, this kid probably has access to a gun and this behavior needs to be corrected before he gets older. If this is perceived to be acceptable he could continue to push the limits until he finally decides to act on his threats.
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Doug85GT Member
Posts: 9975 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
Are you guys putting me on? He is 6, don't report this to the police. I wouldn't think anything about a kid saying something like that. I cannot even believe anyone would report this to the police. I am sure I said things like that when I was six. I also played with toy guns and GI Joes and Ninja Turtles and violent video games. I grew up to be a functioning contributing member of society. I've never even been arrested or had anything more than a vehicular citation, 12 years ago. Unless the child has been displaying psychopathic tendencies, drop it and move on.
This PC world. Makes me worried for future generations.
Agreed, they are six years old. No need to involve the police. Handle it with the school, or his parents, if you see necessary, but not the police.
If this was Kalifornia or (my old state) NY, where a smaller percentage of people own fire arms this would be less alarming. However, this kid probably has access to a gun and this behavior needs to be corrected before he gets older. If this is perceived to be acceptable he could continue to push the limits until he finally decides to act on his threats.
If he was old enough to be able to actually find your house without a grownup to help him cross the street, or being put on an amber alert when missing for a few minutes I may worry about it. Otherwise it's just a 6 year old talking big to a girl, and not really understanding what he said.
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Posts: 1444 From: Great Falls MT Registered: Apr 2011
He is six. This is what, first or second grade? I would not worry at all.
If he were sixteen, then I would be ready for him.
First grade. Don't get me wrong, I do not feel threatened and I do not fear for my daughter either. I do however, believe this behavior needs to be stopped ASAP before he gets older, it escalates or this mentality spreads to other children.
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Posts: 9042 From: brookfield,wisconsin Registered: Dec 1999
If this was Kalifornia or (my old state) NY, where a smaller percentage of people own fire arms this would be less alarming. However, this kid probably has access to a gun and this behavior needs to be corrected before he gets older. If this is perceived to be acceptable he could continue to push the limits until he finally decides to act on his threats.
Just this week I am positive I have threatened to kill at least one person, as have all my co-workers. In fact today, I threatened to stab a co-worker. It is an off-the-cuff remark, we all make them to each other and none of us think anything about it. My partner has a gun in his desk, I have one on my hip. My uncle has a couple in his office.
I think you are completely over reacting. At the most, you could contact his parents. I personally applaud the young gent for knowing what he wants and being willing to kill for it.
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Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
I say you should notify the authorities for advice. Heck, you never know, maybe this kid has had issues and could bring a gun to school... you just don't know and do you really want to be the one person who could have prevented an accident?
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
The school will hand this over to their resource officer. He will get DCF involved. The child will be taken away for a mental evaluation and possibly locked up for a few days. His parents will be put through hell. Yeah, that will teach him.
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Posts: 1444 From: Great Falls MT Registered: Apr 2011
Just has an 8th grader here get out of school suspension for 10 days for having a "Kill list" on her cell phone. Was in my daughters class. My daughter was on the list. Was made out to be a joke or misunderstanding. Police never involed as far as we know. Detailed info not given out due to some protection bullsh!t. I was not totally pleased with the results, but life goes on. I truely do not believe any bad will come from this as we have known the girl for a while, BUT if ANYTHING like this comes up from her at all again, I WILL make sure it is handled correctly!
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Posts: 1444 From: Great Falls MT Registered: Apr 2011
Just this week I am positive I have threatened to kill at least one person, as have all my co-workers. In fact today, I threatened to stab a co-worker. It is an off-the-cuff remark, we all make them to each other and none of us think anything about it. My partner has a gun in his desk, I have one on my hip. My uncle has a couple in his office.
I think you are completely over reacting. At the most, you could contact his parents. I personally applaud the young gent for knowing what he wants and being willing to kill for it.
My co-workers and I do similar. The difference is huge. As adults we use and understand sarcasm and various forms of dark humor.
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Posts: 1444 From: Great Falls MT Registered: Apr 2011
I say you should notify the authorities for advice. Heck, you never know, maybe this kid has had issues and could bring a gun to school... you just don't know and do you really want to be the one person who could have prevented an accident?
That is train of thought I am riding.
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Posts: 1444 From: Great Falls MT Registered: Apr 2011
The school will hand this over to their resource officer. He will get DCF involved. The child will be taken away for a mental evaluation and possibly locked up for a few days. His parents will be put through hell. Yeah, that will teach him.
I just got a call from the wife. She went to the school to investigate and the school counselor is looking into/resolving the situation. I have the utmost faith in her abilities and know it will be handled correctly.
Perhaps I wasn't clear in my intent. My goal is not to create trouble for this kid but to get him help so he doesn't develop into a sociopath.
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
Your intent does not matter and it's pretty much out of your hands, just be glad it wasn't your kid making the statements. Schools have zero tolerance policies in place and will follow them. The boy can be charged with all sorts of crazy charges because of this. It doesn't matter if he's too young to undestand this. There have been several threads about similar situations like this in the news lately.
I'd contact the parents and let it be done with. I wouldn't be all dramatic about it, I'd just let them know very matter of fact what happened and let them handle it.
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WhiteDevil88 Member
Posts: 8518 From: Coastal California Registered: Mar 2007
You should talk to him, man to man. Give all the reasons that marrying her is a bad idea. Then explain how after he kills you, she would just be harder to get along with anyway. But, up to you. The talk is little Suzy is the one that is sweet on him anyway. (Deflect him to another girl / father.
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Posts: 4442 From: Centralia,Missouri. USA Registered: Sep 2003
My 6 year old daughter was talking to her classmates yesterday when a little boy said he was going to marry her some day. When my daughter told him no, he responded with "then I will kill you're daddy."
Shoot the teacher. The kid should've said... "then I will kill your daddy."
I don't think its cute in the least. While of course its not 'serious' coming from a 6 year old ( but it does happen, even at that age ), its the fact that it was the kids first thought when he couldn't get his way. I blame his parents.
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82-T/A [At Work] Member
Posts: 25526 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
The child was placed on arrest, and will be charged as an adult for attempted murder. The school was put on lockdown for a week as they attempt to search for any weapons.
The Democrat legislature has called an emergency session in an attempt to pass stricter gun laws so that this doesn't happen again.
Grief counselors will be available through the next semester to resolve any personal trauma that was caused by this whole ordeal.
The PTA has formed a "Zero Tolerance" policy called "Zero Tolerance", which will require students at the school to undergo awareness and detection training. (this will be a mandatory class, first half of the year will be Sex Ed - (#2) followed by the second half of the year with a class called "Zero Tolerance."
The child was placed on arrest, and will be charged as an adult for attempted murder. The school was put on lockdown for a week as they attempt to search for any weapons.
The Democrat legislature has called an emergency session in an attempt to pass stricter gun laws so that this doesn't happen again.
Grief counselors will be available through the next semester to resolve any personal trauma that was caused by this whole ordeal.
The PTA has formed a "Zero Tolerance" policy called "Zero Tolerance", which will require students at the school to undergo awareness and detection training. (this will be a mandatory class, first half of the year will be Sex Ed - (#2) followed by the second half of the year with a class called "Zero Tolerance."
Todd
Wait, how can you be charged for attempted murder if you only threatened? ( or did i miss something here? )
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Posts: 25526 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
So here is a little story about WHO causes this. My wife was at play-gym with my 4 year old. For some reason a little boy was playing with my son and trying to trip him. My son hasn't had anyone do this to yet him so he found it strange and looked at my wife with the "what is he doing" look on his face. Anyway, after my son actually fell down, the other kid looked satisfied and my wife went over to him and said that he shouldn't trip anyone. The little boy points his finger at my wife and mimics the typical gangster handgun shooting. My wife calmly said that he needed to stop or she would report him to the police. This is where it gets good. The kid states that "my mommy and daddy says the police are bad people and I shouldn't listen to them". This is the typical kid being raised wrong and turning into some little gangster shithead when he is older so in your case, the parents should be kicked in the ass and THEY are fully responsible for whatever he says.
Edit to add....aren't you a lawyer?
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