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Railroad workers (and doctors) charged in $1 billion fraud by jaskispyder
Started on: 10-28-2011 08:34 AM
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Report this Post10-28-2011 08:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
Wow... really over $100K a month in disability and retirement for being a railroad worker? Heck, that is a red flag right there and it took this long to catch it? GEEZ! What railroad job is worth this much in retirement/disability???? The poor person that really needed it probably got shafted.

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Prosecutors charged 11 people on Thursday in connection with an alleged $1 billion fraud involving hundreds of railroad workers filing false disability claims.

In some cases, workers claimed they were unable to work even while they played golf, shoveled snow or rode bikes, the criminal complaint said.

Former Long Island Railroad workers, doctors and a federal railroad agency employee are accused of participating in the alleged scheme in which employees filed disability claims shortly before they retired. The move allowed them to get disability pay on top of their retirement pensions, prosecutors said.

In filing the claims, the railway workers allegedly paid between $800 and $1,200 to hire one of several disability doctors.

Those doctors would then conduct unnecessary tests and concoct a medical issue that would allow the workers to go on disability, prosecutors said.

Two have been charged and a third doctor has died.

The U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan said the scheme, starting in 1998, had potentially cost the Railroad Retirement Board more than $1 billion. The investigation developed after a series of reports by The New York Times starting in 2008.

The Times said almost every longtime LIRR employee was receiving disability payments, resulting in a disability rate sharply higher than for other railroads.

In many cases, workers were far healthier than those claims would indicate, according to prosecutors.

One defendant, a former engineering manager, receives about $105,000 a year in pension and disability pay, based on "severe pain when gripping and using simple hand tools and pain in his knees, shoulder and back from bending or crouching," the complaint said.

An investigation found, however, he played tennis several times a week and golfed regularly in his retirement.

'NOT A FEEDING TROUGH'

Another defendant was seen shoveling heavy snow and walking with a baby stroller for 40 minutes, despite a disability claim in which she claimed to be unable to stand for more than five minutes without leg pain. She is paid at least $108,000 a year by the railroad authority, prosecutors said.

"Benefit programs ... were designed to be a safety net for the truly disabled, not a feeding trough for the truly dishonest," Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara told reporters on Thursday.

The eleven charged on Thursday included two doctors and their office manager who prosecutors say helped retirees create false medical conditions in exchange for cash payments ranging between $800 and $1,200.

Prosecutors said the seven retirees named in the complaint were among hundreds of others who profited from the scheme.

All the accused face a 20-year maximum prison term if convicted of conspiracy to commit healthcare and mail fraud charges.

(Reporting by Paul Thomasch and Basil Katz; Editing by Xavier Briand)
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Report this Post10-28-2011 08:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
They should get them ALL, not just the 11 or so. Stop their benefits, and make 'em payback the $ they already collected. If they spent it, take their goddam house.
I heard some would retire W/ 'disability' at 50.

This same scam is happening all over.

I'm sure NY isn't an isolated case.
Easier to hide in a big city, though. It all gets lost in the 'noise'
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Report this Post10-28-2011 10:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SynSend a Private Message to SynDirect Link to This Post
they focus on this but they wont focus on the Guy that gets disability because he acts like a baby, wears a diaper, craps his pants, and drinks from a bottle, but is still able to design and build oversized baby furniture for himself?
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Report this Post10-28-2011 12:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
not a surprise insurance fraud... only size of the scam.

Please edit dash line so it's shorter... Help to read thread. Thanks.

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Report this Post10-29-2011 01:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofetishSend a Private Message to fierofetishDirect Link to This Post
Pah!! Pales into insignificance against the total BONUSES paid out to CEO's etc for FAILING to make a profit
Pah!! again
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Report this Post10-29-2011 01:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by fierofetish:

Pah!! Pales into insignificance against the total BONUSES paid out to CEO's etc for FAILING to make a profit
Pah!! again
Nick


So that makes it ok? I dont see your point?
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Report this Post10-29-2011 02:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
 
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they focus on this but they wont focus on the Guy that gets disability because he acts like a baby, wears a diaper, craps his pants, and drinks from a bottle, but is still able to design and build oversized baby furniture for himself?


That guy gets disability?

I need to stop following the news. beinging "informed" is pointless if you don't act. I'll start by beating the snot outta this "baby". Then helping make those LIRR folks have valid reasons for going on disability...

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Report this Post10-29-2011 02:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WichitaSend a Private Message to WichitaDirect Link to This Post
Who wanna bet they were all Union heads also.

This is their mentality.
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Originally posted by fierofetish:

Pah!! Pales into insignificance against the total BONUSES paid out to CEO's etc for FAILING to make a profit
Pah!! again
Nick


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75,000 Railroad Workers
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Report this Post11-08-2011 07:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofetishSend a Private Message to fierofetishDirect Link to This Post
 
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So that makes it ok? I dont see your point?

The same point that is made when somebody says 'scrap the space exploration programme to save money...' The stock answer is always 'heck it is so little, it wouldn't make a difference...'
I was being ironic Didn't work, I guess

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Report this Post11-08-2011 08:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Doug85GTSend a Private Message to Doug85GTDirect Link to This Post
I used to deliver checks to a retired/disabled railroad worker and his mother. They were both retired from the railroad. His disability was obvious. He was missing half of his fingers.
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Report this Post11-09-2011 07:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for iced_theaterSend a Private Message to iced_theaterDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Wichita:

Who wanna bet they were all Union heads also.

This is their mentality.


I can assure you that they're just as many non-union workers who also file false disability claims.
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Report this Post11-10-2011 03:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jim94Send a Private Message to jim94Direct Link to This Post
i read stories like this and think this is the reason why it took me to apply 4 times befor getting case approved. i have had 2 more back operations since then. lawyers make lots of money with dissability.3:00am time for sleep, pills kicked in.
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