You must have missed queen nancy pelosi proclaim that the self described Tea Party was astro turf (hired hacks). Like they bus in union thugs to disrupt. "Astro Turf" was nancy's rhetoric.
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You must have missed queen nancy pelosi proclaim that the self described Tea Party was astro turf (hired hacks). Like they bus in union thugs to disrupt. "Astro Turf" was nancy's rhetoric.
blame those who worked so hard to get this result not so much the tea[kool-aid] -puppets but those unseen hands who pull the strings of the puppets now exactly why those evil string pullers want a depression is something I donot understand but the rightwing is totally committed to causing a depression NOW
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Maybe Ray, because one of our own making can be controlled if we actually handle it right, and once and for all get rid of this debt and deficit. If not now--WHEN?
(yeah I know--who cares 'when'--as long as it isn't now and doesn't affect ME)
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partfiero Member
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blame those who worked so hard to get this result not so much the tea[kool-aid] -puppets but those unseen hands who pull the strings of the puppets now exactly why those evil string pullers want a depression is something I donot understand but the rightwing is totally committed to causing a depression NOW
Wasn't that a Twilight Zone episode?
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Posts: 13797 From: Palm Bay, Florida Registered: Nov 1999
blame those who worked so hard to get this result not so much the tea[kool-aid] -puppets but those unseen hands who pull the strings of the puppets now exactly why those evil string pullers want a depression is something I donot understand but the rightwing is totally committed to causing a depression NOW
And just who pulls the puppet strings for the Democrats?
Maybe Geoge Soros, a guy who makes billions from currency manipulations and who benefits greatly from the financial mess.
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Gridlock Member
Posts: 2874 From: New Westminster, BC Canada Registered: Apr 2002
I'm asking an honest question here. Has the tea party released what exactly they want to cut to balance the budget? Is there a document that shows exactly how and when the budget would be balanced without raising taxes?
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htexans1 Member
Posts: 9110 From: Clear Lake City/Houston TX Registered: Sep 2001
I'm asking an honest question here. Has the tea party released what exactly they want to cut to balance the budget? Is there a document that shows exactly how and when the budget would be balanced without raising taxes?
I think the Paul Ryan budget plan does. The "Mack penny" plan does. "Cut, cap and balance" puts a framework around all of it.
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fierobear Member
Posts: 27082 From: Safe in the Carolinas Registered: Aug 2000
Finish the quote for heavens sake, " Great minds think alike, fools seldom differ". Who wants a depression? Look at some of the governments that have risen from economic collapse, some of the most ruthless dictatorships in history, all in the name of the common good, and they were elected. I believe the mainstream republicans will try to crush the tea party after the next presidential election and they will try to enlist the democrats for help.
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texasfiero Member
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...... I believe the mainstream republicans will try to crush the tea party after the next presidential election and they will try to enlist the democrats for help.
A clear and present danger!
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Originally posted by Grandaddy84SE: I believe the mainstream republicans will try to crush the tea party after the next presidential election and they will try to enlist the democrats for help.
I don't doubt they'll try. The will be met with resistance.
blame those who worked so hard to get this result not so much the tea[kool-aid] -puppets but those unseen hands who pull the strings of the puppets now exactly why those evil string pullers want a depression is something I donot understand but the rightwing is totally committed to causing a depression NOW
Too many middle class who would like a living wage.
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"President Barack Obama is facing mounting doubts within his own party about his re-election prospects, with fellow Democrats beginning to ask if Hillary Clinton would have made a better president".
Think if he continues to suck big time, they my put a ton of pressure on him not to run. Hillary is probably getting a couple of tucks as I type!
The dems do NOT want to loose the White House, and the Senate.
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The best comment I have heard thus far is "Blaming the TEA Party is like attacking the Fire Department when they come to put out the fire that's burning down your house".
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Uaana Member
Posts: 6570 From: Robbinsdale MN US Registered: Dec 1999
"President Barack Obama is facing mounting doubts within his own party about his re-election prospects, with fellow Democrats beginning to ask if Hillary Clinton would have made a better president".
Think if he continues to suck big time, they my put a ton of pressure on him not to run. Hillary is probably getting a couple of tucks as I type!
The dems do NOT want to loose the White House, and the Senate.
Scary thing is.. I would have perferred Hillary. Yes she's a self proclaimed "Progressive" but she was also an experienced political operative and had at least a modicum of experience. She probably would have micromanaged the heck out of everything but she would know the fallout and played the polls to do things to keep her numbers up. Obama punted to Pelosi and Reid and went golfing.
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BTW to the original comment.. Still think this is going to bite them (DC insiders) in the long run. Bohener may not admit it, but he's in the crosshairs (omg hate speech) as well. He's another get along, go along politican who doenst care about the country, just making the right moves to stay in his nice office.
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partfiero Member
Posts: 6923 From: Tucson, Arizona Registered: Jan 2002
Originally posted by Uaana: Scary thing is.. I would have perferred Hillary. Yes she's a self proclaimed "Progressive" but she was also an experienced political operative and had at least a modicum of experience. She probably would have micromanaged the heck out of everything but she would know the fallout and played the polls to do things to keep her numbers up. Obama punted to Pelosi and Reid and went golfing.
Sure many of the dems who voted for him over her would take their vote back. Even some of the liberals who did their best to destroy her in the primary are probably having second thoughts by now.
Originally posted by Uaana: Scary thing is.. I would have perferred Hillary. Yes she's a self proclaimed "Progressive" but she was also an experienced political operative and had at least a modicum of experience. She probably would have micromanaged the heck out of everything but she would know the fallout and played the polls to do things to keep her numbers up. Obama punted to Pelosi and Reid and went golfing.
We also would have known what we were getting with her as she wasn't an unknown.
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Yeah, as bad as Hillary would have been, she still would have been better than the irishman. She would have pushed her own version of HillaryCare and entitlements, but I don't think she'd have gone out of her way to throw so many of our long time allies under the bus.
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Yeah, as bad as Hillary would have been, she still would have been better than the irishman. She would have pushed her own version of HillaryCare and entitlements, but I don't think she'd have gone out of her way to throw so many of our long time allies under the bus.
If that was a reference to Egypt's Mubarak.. well, I think he dived under the wheels of the bus, despite Obama's best efforts to restrain him! What Mubarak did was suicide. And it didn't start with Obama. Previous U.S. administrations had already tried to make the light bulb go on in Mubarak's thick head and encourage him to abandon his corrupt and autocratic (and ultimately self-destructive) methods.
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