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OJ - I mean Casey Anthony walks by Spoon
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This really takes the cake. What do you think?

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It's officially ok to kill your child now.
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Report this Post07-05-2011 02:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Plain and simple.....another killer walks away. And she didnt even need money to get away with it. I hope she has her 'bella vita' in some other country like Pakistan. Wonder how many new friend she can find in Florida.
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Wow, the old adage of (s)he who lies first still works? She'll be back in jail/prison soon enough for something else.
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Our system worked perfectly.
It was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty of murder.
She was found not guilty by her peers.

The system worked.
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Originally posted by carnut122:

She'll be back in jail/prison soon enough for something else.


And that is something I have always maintained.
There is some force that always brings them back full-circle.
Maybe not as severe, but it has them.
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Originally posted by Boondawg:

Our system worked perfectly.
It was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty of murder.
She was found not guilty by her peers.

The system worked.


It may not work as advertised, but it worked as for working perfectly, I dont think so, but its conjecture on my part. lol

OJ now has a golfing partner. lol
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The prosecution put together a crappy case. The best piece of evidence that they had was the local police found chloroform in the car but that was contradicted by the FBI's lack of finding chloroform.


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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

The prosecution put together a crappy case. The best piece of evidence that they had was the local police found chloroform in the car but that was contradicted by the FBI's lack of finding chloroform.


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Actually, both investigations found evidence of chloroform.
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Originally posted by Boondawg:

Our system worked perfectly.
It was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty of murder.
She was found not guilty by her peers.

The system worked.


The problem with said system that if evidence becomes available that proves that a party is guilty without any doubt at all, they can not be retried for the same crime - yet on the other hand, once convicted they can submit many appeals to: either get off scott free, or, reduced time spent behind bars. The door should go both ways IMHO.
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quote
Originally posted by Boondawg:
Our system worked perfectly.
It was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty of murder.
She was found not guilty by her peers.

The system worked.


yup. many of us have already convinced ourselves based on media content on verdict.

so, the Q: is the media truth?

anyways - yes - I too think the little witch killed her baby/toddler. but - WTF do I know about it except what has been presented (with bias) by the media?

so, again - is "the media" truth? and - how about another aspect - wtf does any of this have to do with any one of us?
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The sad part is a beautiful little girl is dead who was in the care of the mother. I have seen hundreds of cases where that a lone put the mother in prison. The victim is forgotten again, what a sad day!
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The result of this is now when you get caught doing any crime, just lie you azz off to everyone who will listen. Great lesson for all your kids too. Never ever tell the truth about a damn thing.
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Originally posted by Synthesis:


Actually, both investigations found evidence of chloroform.



http://www.examiner.com/peo...y-casey-anthony-case

 
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One of the world’s foremost authorities on corpses and the odor they emit bolster the prosecutors case when he said, “the odor of chloroform was shockingly high.” However on Tuesday an FBI chemist said the levels of chloroform in Casey’s car, “were not noteworthy at all” and that the levels are the same strength that might be used in cleaning products.



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Originally posted by rogergarrison:
The result of this is now when you get caught doing any crime, just lie you azz off to everyone who will listen. Great lesson for all your kids too. Never ever tell the truth about a damn thing.


lol - nothing new there
that is already SOP for politics & management
a lesson anyone who wants to rise above must learn hard & early

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But note: Neither one of them denied the existence of Cholorform.
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If someone in the jury had a reasonable doubt, it would have been a hung jury and retrial.

If the entire jury has a reasonable doubt based on evidence, thats "Not Guilty". Simple.

Since it wasn't a hung jury, then the 12 people who were actually in charge of this case (the jury) obviously saw and discussed a point that made them believe she was not a murderer. These are people the prosecutor agreed to let on the jury, so its not like they got 12 of the most bleeding hearts around.

How many people here were in that room, saw all the evidence, and heard the entire case by the prosecution and defense, saw all 3 months of trial, and every presented piece of evidence and discussed it at length (10 hours) to make a decision? None that I know of, and certainly if you were, then you voted not guilty. My sincerist hope is everyone who is so sure she is guilty without access to all the info and court time is NEVER on a jury where someone's life hangs in the balance.

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Originally posted by tbone42:

If someone in the jury had a reasonable doubt, it would have been a hung jury and retrial.

If the entire jury has a reasonable doubt based on evidence, thats "Not Guilty". Simple.

Since it wasn't a hung jury, then the 12 people who were actually in charge of this case (the jury) obviously saw and discussed a point that made them believe she was not a murderer. These are people the prosecutor agreed to let on the jury, so its not like they got 12 of the most bleeding hearts around.

How many people here were in that room, saw all the evidence, and heard the entire case by the prosecution and defense, saw all 3 months of trial, and every presented piece of evidence and discussed it at length (10 hours) to make a decision? None that I know of, and certainly if you were, then you voted not guilty. My sincerist hope is everyone who is so sure she is guilty without access to all the info and court time is NEVER on a jury where someone's life hangs in the balance.




You really do put it in perspective with the no-hung jury aspect of it. What do you personally believe?

Personally, I would have conisdered it a blessing to have the chance to adopt that little girl rather than have her die like that. She looks a lot like my own two and a half year old daughter.


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Originally posted by Synthesis:

But note: Neither one of them denied the existence of Cholorform.



The FBI said the chemicals found were the same level as found in cleaning products. Which technically you can argue that it was found. In practicality it is meaningless and apparently the jury agrees.

I'll bet I have the same level of chloroform in all of my cars, kitchen, garage and my bathrooms.


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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
You really do put it in perspective with the no-hung jury aspect of it. What do you personally believe?


I tell you what Todd, I won't make a decision because I know I dont have access to all the info... I think it would be a personal injustice to accuse someone or let someone off the hook unless I had access to every shred of evidence the jury looked at and the direction their discussions went. We may all be missing something they saw.

I dont WANT to be a fencerider, but I have to be due to lack of info we ALL have.. I am just not afraid to admit it. Thats why I am just going to have to trust the jury on this one, they saw every part of that case and ultimately not one of them thought there was enough evidence to declare guilt or it would have been hung. That speaks volumes to me. Is she ACTUALLY guilty? Maybe so.. but there is not enough proof, obviously, to condemn her for it.

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Originally posted by Spoon:

This really takes the cake. What do you think?

Spoon







Seriously, I think introducing "junk science" ruined the prosecution. Didn't they learn anything from the OJ trial?

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Originally posted by tbone42:

If someone in the jury had a reasonable doubt, it would have been a hung jury and retrial.

If the entire jury has a reasonable doubt based on evidence, thats "Not Guilty". Simple.

Since it wasn't a hung jury, then the 12 people who were actually in charge of this case (the jury) obviously saw and discussed a point that made them believe she was not a murderer. These are people the prosecutor agreed to let on the jury, so its not like they got 12 of the most bleeding hearts around.

How many people here were in that room, saw all the evidence, and heard the entire case by the prosecution and defense, saw all 3 months of trial, and every presented piece of evidence and discussed it at length (10 hours) to make a decision? None that I know of, and certainly if you were, then you voted not guilty. My sincerist hope is everyone who is so sure she is guilty without access to all the info and court time is NEVER on a jury where someone's life hangs in the balance.



And to that, I say bravo.
I don't know how old you are, but you are wiser then some will ever be.
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Well she lived with her parents for free (or mooched off friends) Even her car is registered to her parents. I hope they have enough guts to junk the car and take all her belongings to the dump. Let her leave with the clothes on her back. If I were the parents, she would never set foot thru the door again. Sadly this girl is so promiscuous she will get pregnant again and know what to do all over again...only even better. Whos going to give her any kind of job knowing how she lies. Shes going to have to live with someone...no way she can get anything on her own. To have any kind of life, she will have to change her looks, name and move far away and hope no one finds out who she is.
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Originally posted by tbone42:




I dont WANT to be a fencerider, but I have to be due to lack of info we ALL have..


When I do that I am acussed of "not taking a stand".
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I'm sorta surprised that so many here are falling for the popular opinion. I thought we had more free-thinkers than this....

Do you guys really buy into the stuff the media spoon-feeds you? Or do you guys have some information that wasn't divulged to the jury of twelve people who sat listening to evidence for the entire course of the trial? I'm just wondering where the unanimous conclusion of her guilt is originating from?
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And to that, I say bravo.
I don't know how old you are, but you are wiser then some will ever be.



THAN!!!!!! not then...
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Originally posted by Taijiguy:

I'm sorta surprised that so many here are falling for the popular opinion. I thought we had more free-thinkers than this....

Do you guys really buy into the stuff the media spoon-feeds you? Or do you guys have some information that wasn't divulged to the jury of twelve people who sat listening to evidence for the entire course of the trial? I'm just wondering where the unanimous conclusion of her guilt is originating from?


Just got off of fox19 cincinnati's website... there is a simple poll on whether you think guilty or not guilty. 7% said not guilty... what does 93% know that the jury doesn't?
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Originally posted by madcurl:



Seriously, I think introducing "junk science" ruined the prosecution. Didn't they learn anything from the OJ trial?


A lot of forensics is based on junk or questionable science. Here is a great article about it in Popular Mechanics:

http://www.popularmechanics...th/forensics/4325774


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Wonder if the DA is laughing today?
Think that played a part in their decision.
What a JERK.
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I hate to say it, but I have agreed with Geraldo, that she likely had something to do with it, but it wasn't proven. That has been the bottom line with me.

To roger: the entire family is so disfunctional, they will probably be on a reality TV show eventually.
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There was not enough concrete evidence that she killed her daughter. Enough evidence that she lied about everything involving the disappearence of the child.

We will never know unless someone confesses. Strange that Casey's parent walked out when Casey was found not guilty of murder.
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Well looks like they made up their mind.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/...casey-anthony-trial/

But like originally mentioned.. O.J. Walked as well.. Considering the average intelligence / rational thought today in the US I can see how those spoon fed CSI, Bones etc imagery could find "reasonable" doubt in their own minds.
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The media is having a field day with this-- Nancy Grace is "livid" crying out about "where is the justice" (CNN) even having a reporter go to a restraunt where the defense team is "having a party." THe restraunt has had to place a guard outside the door to keep the press/non customers away from the defense team.

CNN did not have the evidence, the Jury did.

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Originally posted by tbone42:

If someone in the jury had a reasonable doubt, it would have been a hung jury and retrial.

If the entire jury has a reasonable doubt based on evidence, thats "Not Guilty". Simple.

Since it wasn't a hung jury, then the 12 people who were actually in charge of this case (the jury) obviously saw and discussed a point that made them believe she was not a murderer. These are people the prosecutor agreed to let on the jury, so its not like they got 12 of the most bleeding hearts around.

How many people here were in that room, saw all the evidence, and heard the entire case by the prosecution and defense, saw all 3 months of trial, and every presented piece of evidence and discussed it at length (10 hours) to make a decision? None that I know of, and certainly if you were, then you voted not guilty. My sincerist hope is everyone who is so sure she is guilty without access to all the info and court time is NEVER on a jury where someone's life hangs in the balance.



Well said, tbone. this is the way our system works.

YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

We all have Bart Simpson to blame for the line "Nobody saw me do it, you can't prove a thing" - such thought works against our system of values - honesty, hard work, personal honor and respect for others.
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Originally posted by Uaana:

Considering the average intelligence / rational thought today in the US I can see how those spoon fed CSI, Bones etc imagery could find "reasonable" doubt in their own minds.


Except for everyone here, of coarse?

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
THAN!!!!!! not then...


What is the point of this?
If you are trying to help me, I do not desire it.
And if you are pointing it out to others, that's just unnessisary.

YOU know it's wrong, isn't that enough?

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The parents walked out because they, better than anyone, knew she did it. She destroyed the family herself. She knew mom had her figured out and she accused dad and brother of molesting her. If any of them now side with her after the verdict, there MUCH dumber than I even thought.

Yes the general public was privy to far more information than the jury recieved. Byez fought tooth and nail to keep LOTS of evidence out and what he did keep out was obviously enough to get her off.
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Like I said before...even if found not guilty, her life will never be the same. I wouldn't think there are many who believe she didn't do it.

I'll give her a year after her sure-to-follow book release before she's doing soft-core pron films.
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And that is something I have always maintained.
There is some force that always brings them back full-circle.
Maybe not as severe, but it has them.


I gotta agree with you there. Even OJ has paid many times over in the end.
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Originally posted by Taijiguy:

I'm sorta surprised that so many here are falling for the popular opinion. I thought we had more free-thinkers than this....

Do you guys really buy into the stuff the media spoon-feeds you? Or do you guys have some information that wasn't divulged to the jury of twelve people who sat listening to evidence for the entire course of the trial? I'm just wondering where the unanimous conclusion of her guilt is originating from?




The system worked as it was supposed to, just because the media had already made a noose for her means nothing.

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