Ed Schultz has been suspended from MSNBC for calling conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham a "right wing slut" on his syndicated radio show.
Schultz opened his primetime MSNBC show on Wednesday apologizing to Ingraham, MSNBC, his family and viewers.
"It doesn't matter that I was on radio ad-libbing," Schultz said of his comments the day before. "What I said was terribly vile."
Schultz met with MSNBC management earlier in the day on Wednesday, and said he offered to take himself off the air indefinitely and without pay. The network said the suspension would be one week.
"I have embarrassed my family," he added, before turning the show over to substitute host Thomas Roberts. "I have embarrassed this company. The only way I can prove my sincerity in all of this is if I never use those words again. You have my word I won't."
Schultz said that he tried--unsuccessfully--to reach Ingraham to apologize personally.
Network brass released this statement before Schultz went on the air: "MSNBC management met with Ed Schultz this afternoon and accepted his offer to take one week of unpaid leave for the remarks he made yesterday on his radio program. Ed will address these remarks on his show tonight, and immediately following begin his leave. Remarks of this nature are unacceptable and will not be tolerated."
The "Ed Show" host joined MSNBC in 2009, taking over the 10 p.m. slot after Keith Olbermann--no stranger to network suspensions--left the cable channel earlier this year, shuffling the primetime lineup.
Can you imagine the vitriol, derisiveness and outrageous disgrace the liberal media would pound the air-waves if Limbaugh, Beck, Savage of Hannity said this? In this case, the media says nothing (listen to the crickets). But, when one of there own makes a statement as vile as this, they hope it goes away. This type of double standard has been around for 75 + years!
MSNBC seems to be trying to become the left wings answer to FoxNews. Both are biased from what I've seen and MSNBC is even more lame for trying to emulate the FoxNews "style" IMO.
As for what Ed Schultz, it's another example of what is not needed and is not acceptable when it comes to political debate.
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MSNBC seems to be trying to become the left wings answer to FoxNews. Both are biased from what I've seen and MSNBC is even more lame for trying to emulate the FoxNews "style" IMO.
As for what Ed Schultz, it's another example of what is not needed and is not acceptable when it comes to political debate.
Yeah, I've totally seen them trying to position themselves that way. The only thing is, the news guys they bring on seem to be too overly passionate sometimes, and have a hard time biting their tounge. It seems they tend to go on rampages now and then. Although, you see that from Beck and O'Reilly now and then too. It seems every now and then I hear a report that one of them has to apologize for something. Wow, I just said now and then three times. (four if you count that last time)
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Originally posted by newf: MSNBC seems to be trying to become the left wings answer to FoxNews. Both are biased from what I've seen and MSNBC is even more lame for trying to emulate the FoxNews "style" IMO.
No, not really. They tried, they failed. Now you only see a few financed shows. It can't support itself and has to rely on entertainment such as "Lock Up" (prison life), "Predator" (child **** stings), and a few others. It is failing just as liberal talk radio is failure. As far as biased, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, and many of the mega newspapers are definitely biased and owned by liberals. Fox news is fair and balanced and also polls as the most trusted source of political news. FoxNews however, the opinion shows, they do have from some bias on some shows to more bias on others. However, they do bring in an opposing opinion if one is not scared to argue their point. I do watch FoxNews, as it is to me the most unbiased of them all. I watch others sources also to be sure I get both sides of the story.
Originally posted by ray b: fox is totally unfair and unbalanced believing rightwing is right and that all else is commie BS EVEN THEIR LIBERALS ARE FAKES
Care to back that up ? Fake liberals ? Ha. The only ones who have the balls to defend their beliefs. Nobama would not even come on. He does not let his people come on. Why you ask ? Because he "manages" the press. Words from his own mouth from when he campaigned for President. See, its simple for the dumbocrats. Do not go on FoxNews where more than 50% of voters look for truthful information to make a decision.
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I love it how the liberal press is going bankrupt and they wonder why. Well lets look a little into this phenomenon. Q: how do media outlets make money? A: Advertising. Q: Who typically spends money on ads? A: Businesses. Q: Liberals want to destroy who, with their agenda? A: Businesses. Hmmm we have a problem here. **** PMSNBC. I hope they all go under. Fox News FTW!
Besides Conservative chicks are hotter.
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Originally posted by fieroX: Well lets look a little into this phenomenon. Q: how do media outlets make money? A: Advertising. Q: Who typically spends money on ads? A: Businesses. Q: Liberals want to destroy who, with their agenda? A: Businesses. Hmmm we have a problem here.
No, I think that's too simplistic. Allow me. Q: how do media outlets make money? A: Advertising. Q: Who typically spends money on ads? A: Businesses. It does not pay to spend money advertising to a small market. Even liberals who believe their own crap don't listen because they have alteady OD'ed on the koolaid.
I don't listen to the guy, so I don't know his character very well, but he sounds genuine. I believe forgiveness is incredibly important; with a sincere apology like that we should understand that he screwed up and is beating himself up enough and we don't need to jump in and add to it.
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Fox news is fair and balanced and also polls as the most trusted source of political news. FoxNews however, the opinion shows, they do have from some bias on some shows to more bias on others. However, they do bring in an opposing opinion if one is not scared to argue their point. I do watch FoxNews, as it is to me the most unbiased of them all. I watch others sources also to be sure I get both sides of the story.
I say CNN is the most unbiased.
Fox is 100% conservative entertainment and thats why conservatives watch it.
Also how can Fox be fair and balanced if it is biased?
If you poll 90 conservatives and 10 liberals on who is the most trusted source of political news who is going to win the nomination?
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Originally posted by nosrac: If you poll 90 conservatives and 10 liberals on who is the most trusted source of political news who is going to win the nomination?
It's not a Fox poll. It's the Neilson ratings for who watches what shows.
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It's not a Fox poll. It's the Neilson ratings for who watches what shows.
Does the Neilson ratings take in account that MSNBC is not available to all viewers of basic cable but Fox is available?
I don't even consider what Fox does as news but rather a conservative talking post. MSNBC is definetly a Liberal version Fox news with a smaller audience and they are the entity that attempts to balance the conservative opinions for better or worse.
Care to back that up ? Fake liberals ? Ha. The only ones who have the balls to defend their beliefs. Nobama would not even come on. He does not let his people come on. Why you ask ? Because he "manages" the press. Words from his own mouth from when he campaigned for President. See, its simple for the dumbocrats. Do not go on FoxNews where more than 50% of voters look for truthful information to make a decision.
the older Hannity-Kudlow show had the guy now on Cnbc Kudlow who now is fully neo con but with Hannity pretended to be a liberal fox is 100% rightwing nuts both on air and viewers
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I love it how the liberal press is going bankrupt and they wonder why. Well lets look a little into this phenomenon. Q: how do media outlets make money? A: Advertising. Q: Who typically spends money on ads? A: Businesses. Q: Liberals want to destroy who, with their agenda? A: Businesses. Hmmm we have a problem here. **** PMSNBC. I hope they all go under. Fox News FTW!
Besides Conservative chicks are hotter.
if you like transsexuals like guess like ann C
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No, I think that's too simplistic. Allow me. Q: how do media outlets make money? A: Advertising. Q: Who typically spends money on ads? A: Businesses. It does not pay to spend money advertising to a small market.
Nothing says "News" like making it entertaining because we all know it's quality that makes the money in the entertainment industry.
BTW not that I dispute that FOX is probably the most watched 24hour news channel in the U.S. but do you have a link to the ratings you are quoting.
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I still cant get over what the Left defines as hate speech. Have a political opinion that is different to theirs? that hate speech. If you don't agree with the left, they name call, hit below the belt, and spew vile hatred. I cant help but laugh at the hypocrisy.....point out anyone on Fox news that goes around using personal attacks and spewing "hatred". Someone should explain to the left wing base that just because people don't support their views, they are "hateful". Calling people sluts, calling for Bush's assassination, etc. thats it hateful.
Oh...they also claim the drudge report is preaching hate....LOL! the drudge report? They don't even write their own stories, its just a site with links to news articles all over the world.
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I still cant get over what the Left defines as hate speech. Have a political opinion that is different to theirs? that hate speech. If you don't agree with the left, they name call, hit below the belt, and spew vile hatred. I cant help but laugh at the hypocrisy.....point out anyone on Fox news that goes around using personal attacks and spewing "hatred". Someone should explain to the left wing base that just because people don't support their views, they are "hateful". Calling people sluts, calling for Bush's assassination, etc. thats it hateful.
Oh...they also claim the drudge report is preaching hate....LOL! the drudge report? They don't even write their own stories, its just a site with links to news articles all over the world.
Two things are obvious here...
1. When you don't have a legitimate argument, insult your opponent
2. They seem to be liars. When people repeat falsehoods, there is no other logical conclusion.
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It's a corporate decision to suspend him. Me? I watched him a couple of times and he is worse than Sean Hannity when it comes to substance and a yawn for everything else. But he has a following from the Radikkkal Left crowd for sure. So NBC needs to keep him on the air.
I still cant get over what the Left defines as hate speech. Have a political opinion that is different to theirs? that hate speech. If you don't agree with the left, they name call, hit below the belt, and spew vile hatred. I cant help but laugh at the hypocrisy.....point out anyone on Fox news that goes around using personal attacks and spewing "hatred". Someone should explain to the left wing base that just because people don't support their views, they are "hateful". Calling people sluts, calling for Bush's assassination, etc. thats it hateful.
hahaha have you ever read the political commentary on this site?
Please tell me that you don't think any of this is exclusive to one side.
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im talking about commentators and media personalities, not random people one the internet. come on.....
You don't think it's all the same? Sure, a few bad apples don't represent the tree, but when there are enough of them....
I think Newf called you out on a good point. I think the name-calling needs to stop on the right's end before the left. It will give us greater leverage later because we'll be able to say we are/were the bigger man.
Really, using Rolling Stone Magazine? Come, now... At least use something semi-credible, like the homeless guy shouting about the end of the world. I mean, seriously. Rolling Stone?
Also, I agree that Fox leans a bit right, but much less so than most sources lean left. I've found that between Fox and BBC I can get a decent scope on things.
Really, using Rolling Stone Magazine? Come, now... At least use something semi-credible, like the homeless guy shouting about the end of the world. I mean, seriously. Rolling Stone?
Also, I agree that Fox leans a bit right, but much less so than most sources lean left. I've found that between Fox and BBC I can get a decent scope on things.
I'm not aware of the poor crediblity of Rolling Stone but have not researched them too much if at all. Are they known for publishing non-credible stories?
Fox doesn't "lean a bit right" it is unabashedly Conservative, nothing wrong with that really as long as people realize it IMO.
You don't think it's all the same? Sure, a few bad apples don't represent the tree, but when there are enough of them....
I think Newf called you out on a good point. I think the name-calling needs to stop on the right's end before the left. It will give us greater leverage later because we'll be able to say we are/were the bigger man.
again, show me the mass examples on the right. Sure, there are some fringe shock jocks outs there and people like Ann coulter who go off the deep end. Im talking about mainstream media though. have you ever watched MSNBC, CNN, ABC, etc. They are on there all the time being complete asses. people like Keith oberman with his over the top sarcasm and "worst people in the world bit". Katy couric is another great example. Not to mention their BS panels theyhave on all the time. They are always bringing race into the issues and injecting absurd angles. Like that last hit job on newt Gingrich stating he had racial undertones by calling Obama the "food stamp president"
my point is when I turn on Fox, almost 90% I fee like im watching adults argue and debate points. I don't hear race baiting, I don't hear personal attacks, I don't hear sneering and childly outburst.
When I watch all the other networks, this is all I see. A bunch of children acting like their in high school. It makes me sick. No objectivity, and the personal attacks on these networks are overwhelming. Look what they did to Sarah Palin for crying out loud. The only thing I EVER see on FOX about Obama, are legitimate arguments on his policies. They may not mesh with the lefts position, but I never see any Fox commentators personally attack the president, or use vulgar language. I cant say the same for the other networks. I have tried to watch them, and before 10 minutes can go by, I am changing the channel.
remember the tea parties when they kicked up? MSNBC showed a man in a white shirt and tie with an AR-15 slung across his back. They zoomed in and all you could see was the rifle. The commentators on MSNBC of course started talking about race and how they are a bunch of white racists with guns. Guess what.......Fox had a camera at the same event, and they filmed the same man. When they panned out, the man was black! Of course, MSNBC knew he was black, but they didn't show his skin color, just a tight cropped frame of his back and the weapon. this is why their rating are so horrible, they are completely agenda driven. At least Fox has both sides represented to speak their mind. Often on these other channels, they dont even have a decent person to represent a conservative viewpoint. Its like watching the view and claiming their "balanced". One conservative against 3 liberals getting tagged team every day.
This is the kind of BS im sick of. This is why Fox of all the networks are dominating in ratings and overall success. Whether or not Fox leans right is not the debate here. The issue is how Fox conducts their reporting. Almost every Fox official on the tv is respectful and professional. Regardless of if you agree with them.
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