New guidelines for LA police say if your an illegal alien without a drivers licence, your car cannot be impounded if your stopped. However, if your an American citizen without a licence, your car will be impounded on a traffic stop.....
Seems just like regular criminals now, they have all the rights and regular people are SOL. Maybe everyone should renounce citizenship so we can get all the free stuff and be immune to jail time.
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Stubby79 Member
Posts: 7064 From: GFY county, FY. Registered: Aug 2008
Don't expect justice from police and judges if you're just a ripped-off citizen
By Lorne Gunter, edmontonjournal.com
The lessons of Tony Martin of England, David Chen of Toronto and Brian Knight of Tees and Joseph Singleton of Taber -- both in Alberta -- is that the justice system has lost touch with its original purpose -- to dispense justice and punishment on behalf of the people.
These four men's cases show that increasingly the justice system believes protection of persons and property is a task solely for police. Civilians have no right to defend themselves or their loved ones, their homes, farms or businesses, whether or not police can respond quickly enough to calls of break-and-enter or assault.
Meanwhile, prosecutors act as if the justice system has something more important to do than protect the public. Over the past four decades, so much of the system's time and resources have been focused on guarding the rights of the accused and rehabilitating convicts that the Crown seems to see ordinary people as outsiders.
Citizens are as capable of upsetting the system's smooth functioning as criminals. Indeed, the people may be seen as more of an impediment in some ways.
Tony Martin is an English farmer whose remote property had been burgled several times. Martin claims that each time police were slow to respond. On what he insists was the 11th occurrence -- in August 1999 -- Martin found two thieves in his home in the middle of the night. He grabbed a shotgun and fired a blast at each of them as they were attempting to climb out a window. One of the two died, the other suffered a leg wound.
The wounded burglar was given three years in prison; Martin was sentenced to life for murdering the man's accomplice. Later the British justice system awarded the wounded man more than $10,000 in legal aid so he could sue Martin for the lingering effects of his injuries.
Martin spent longer in prison than the burglar and was only able to have his sentence reduced because he agreed to tell an appeal court that earlier burglaries had given him a mental disorder, so when he shot the two midnight prowlers he was suffering from "diminished capacity."
Martin's case was atrocious. Although England is the cradle of modern liberty, it has in recent decades gone a long way towards nanny-statehood.
Canada now seems headed down the same path, if the cases of Messrs. Chen, Knight and Singleton give any indication.
David Chen is the Toronto greengrocer who last year apprehended a shoplifter with over 40 previous convictions and a criminal record going back more than 30 years. Chen and two of his employees caught Anthony Bennett in an alley next to Chen's store, tied him up and held in the back of a van until police arrived. For their troubles, they were charged with assault, kidnapping and forcible confinement.
Thankfully, Mr. Chen was acquitted this week, but he never should have been charged.
Brian Knight farms in central Alberta. One night last year, he heard three thieves stealing equipment from his farmyard -- again. He gave chase and caught one who was riding away on a quad, but not before Knight had shot the thief in the leg. Knight was charged with criminal negligence causing bodily harm, assault and dangerous driving.
Then this past May, on an acreage outside Taber, Joseph Singleton came home with his wife to find a strange car in their driveway. He blocked its exit with his own vehicle, then entered his home and discovered it ransacked. When he went back outside, one of the thieves was ramming Singleton's vehicle and, according to Singleton's lawyer, gunning the getaway car in the direction of Mrs. Singleton. The 46-year-old oilfield consultant took the flat side of a hatchet and hit the thief twice in the face. Days ago, RCMP charged Singleton with assault with a weapon and assault causing bodily harm -- more serious charges than those laid against the burglars.
The biggest similarity between the Chen and Singleton cases is the way police and prosecutors sided with the criminals against the civilians involved. In Chen's case, the Crown cut a deal with his shoplifter to reduce his sentence in return for testimony against the grocer. And in the Singleton case, he was never interviewed by police before being charged. Charges have been brought solely on the say-so of the criminals.
This is what I mean about the justice system becoming a closed shop in which criminals are treated with the respect afforded insiders and the public are treated as interlopers.
Even gun control confirms that justice has been turned on its head. We don't control criminals' guns; it would be almost impossible to do so. So instead we spend billions controlling the guns of law-abiding citizens.
Ever wondered why criminals have become bolder over the last generation? They know fewer Canadians have guns. They know that if they are caught, their sentences will be short. And they are increasingly aware that the enforcers of our laws -- police, prosecutors and courts -- are at odds with the public.
Maybe we should call it the criminals' justice system, rather than the criminal justice system.
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Scottzilla79 Member
Posts: 2573 From: Chicago, IL Registered: Oct 2009
Just heard a story on the radio. IL is working on passing a conceal and carry law, one of only two states that does not have one already, and the stupid police chief of Chicago is saying it will be dangerous for cops. Because people who jump through a bunch of hoops to be able to legally carry a concealed weapon are the problem and not the gangbangers who just shot up a CTA bus this morning.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Yup. 2 gangs get in a rolling gunfight in the street and get plea bargained out for breaking a noise ordinance....way current system works. They say the prisons are too crowded. Well simple, execute the 75% of the convicts in there that will never stop doing what they do and all kinds of room opens up.
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
Brian Knight farms in central Alberta. One night last year, he heard three thieves stealing equipment from his farmyard -- again. He gave chase and caught one who was riding away on a quad, but not before Knight had shot the thief in the leg. Knight was charged with criminal negligence causing bodily harm, assault and dangerous driving.
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Actually the story is wrong. They stole his quad, he gave chase with his truck, rammed the quad and they were ejected. He told them to stop, one did and the other kept running, he fired his shotgun and got the guy in the leg. He was on the cellphone with the 911 during the chase and they wouldnt send help out for the chase so thats why he "ended" the chase himself.
Followed this story when it happened @ canadiangunnutz forum