Sounds like a pile of something ELSE...



http://www.greenoptimistic....0/12/25/karpen-pile/


The line that gets me is:
The invention cannot be exposed because the museum doesn’t have enough money to buy the security system necessary for such an exhibit.

The article claims that the cell was patented in 1922. If it actually worked as advertised (i.e. as scammed), many other researchers would have been able to reproduce the same results using the information disclosed in the patent, which has long since expired anyway.

Just because the cell still produces an open-cell voltage after 60 years doesn't necessarily prove anything ... except that a cell using noble metal electrodes can be very stable over time. Now if it had been supplying substantial current over 60 years without maintenance .... then that would be something different (and probably fraudulent).

[This message has been edited by Marvin McInnis (edited 02-09-2011).]

quote Originally posted by Marvin McInnis: Now if it had been supplying substantial current over 60 years without maintenance .... then that would be something different (and probably fraudulent).

Why, MM? Everyone knows hydrogen generators make a big difference in fuel economy. The users are highly enthusiastic about them. So if those work so well, can't a 60 year old battery?

quote Originally posted by heybjorn: So if those work so well, can't a 60 year old battery?

Mr. Clean has a point

quote Originally posted by heybjorn: So if those work so well, can't a 60 year old battery?

Based on no information whatsoever, I'd speculate that they both work equally well.

...battery powered bell at Oxford University was been ringing since 1840: http://atlasobscura.com/place/oxford-electric-bell

...this light bulb made in 1901 is still working: http://www.centennialbulb.org/

When i used to work for Verizon Wireless as a tech, we regularly serviced huge glass lead-acid batteries that had a rated lifespan of 95 years. Not saying they didn't need charged, and they were not practical for anything except sitting in banks to provide stable DC voltage, but before I'd seen those, I had no idea batteries could last that long. Funny thing: the cost to setup all the acid-catchers and safety equipment exceeded the cost of the batteries by about 60%, and it was still cheaper than AGM or other batteries due to the long depreciation schedule and their ability to provide a TON of current capacity.

These were only used in the switch, big AGM batteries were used at the sites for transportation reasons (you really don't want to carry 1000 lb. glass jars up a logging road to the top of a mountain..

quote perpetual motion machine

That reference is all i needed to see.