Ellie tried to start it this morning, and said the battery had gone flat. I went out and tried it myself, because sometimes it behaved like the battery was flat, and if you try 2 or 3 times it will start. In the end, she took the Kangoo, and I bump-started the Nissan. Left it running for a while to try to recharge the battery, but it still wouldn't turn over. I saw there was white 'snow' around the pos battery terminal, and washed it away with hot water, and retightened it, with vaseline applied. Still wouldn't start on the key,m although it turned over normally now For a couple of tries, it turned the engine over fine, but only tried to fire on the first cylinder to fire...then nothing. Now it won't fire at all, although the battery suddenly seems to be fully charged and turns the engine over really quickly. Took off a plug lead, and turned the engine over...no spark. Somebody on the Nissan Forum said it might be the Nissan Anti theft system. The light flashes when the key isn't in, but when I put the key in, it goes out. This is all I need now The Kangoo packed up too, when Ellie was driving it. AAAAAAGH!! Does this mean an expensive visit to a Nissan dealer to get it reflashed?? Or is there a way around this??
BAH!!
Nick

I don't know what year you have or if it is a NATS1 or a NATS2 but some info here:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/t37748.html

http://nissan-cat.ru/index....253&idpage=A+04&vin=

Service manual here:

http://pdfservicemanual.com...Nissan%2BPrimera.pdf

[This message has been edited by mike-ohio (edited 01-18-2011).]

Thanks very much Mike. It is a NATS 2, with a sensor in the key, which means you can't bypass it. Great, when the anti-theft system actually prevents the OWNER from using the darned car Apparently it has to be taken to a Nissan dealership with the computer system to allow them to re-flash the ECM... 150 euros just to connect it to an OBD II scanner, and press a couple of buttons...and as you can't drive it, you have to get it there by breakdown truck..this whole blasted crap would cost me in the region of 350 euros..if I had it. Now we are really at rock bottom. Blasted technology. I am soooo fed up. Don't really know how to get around this.
Feel like rolling over and giving up.
Damn.
Nick

Did you steal it?

No smileys Jake?? No I didn't
Nick

check your fuses also.

Does the radio work? It is tied into the NAT 2 system.

I'll go check
Nick

quote Originally posted by fierofetish: No smileys Jake?? No I didn't Nick

Oops yes I jest

Hi Nick, I would say that you need to actually remove the battery connections,clean and nutralize the acid with bakeing soda.I have actualley used a mix of vasoline and bakeing soda on the terminals to prevent the acid from comeing back.As for the security feture,try cleaning the battery posts first.A last resort would be to have the security feture removed from the PCM or car computer.Other posibilities could be a bad starter,battery or alternater,but because you seem to have found acid on one of the postis,I would say thats the problem.

Thanks JB
Well, I cleaned the terminals, charged the battery fully, reconnected...and still zilch. Now..how do I know if the NATS 2 system has rendered the car inoperable, or whether it is a fault in the ignition circuit? It isn't a fuel problem, because I squirted easy start into the air intake as it turned over, and nothing. I'm also wondering if you can pull codes from it...hmmm
Nick

Your either not getting spark or fuel,becuse you were able to try and start the car with starting fluid and got nothing,then I would think that its spark related (and it wouldnt be the plugs or wires,they wouldnt all go out at once).Disconnecting the battery cable would clear any codes,so you probubley wouldnt find much there.I know when the crank sensor goes out,you would have the same symptoms you have,sometimes the water pump (on some cars),will drip on the crank sensor causeing it to fail.This isnt going to be any easy fix.....

found this (not me):This just happened to me this afternoon and I called the AA. Itr was the ignition coil. AA guy tested the spark before it got to the dizzy and it was pooh. He took me to unipart locally and picked one up - easy and quick to fit and now it runs way better than it has for a while - I guess the spark had been deteriorating for a while. Funny thing was that I sensed this and had bought new plugs to swap them over. AA guy was good enough to swap them for me saving a job.
http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum...park_topic46244.html
If you see this:The Display panel shows outline of flashing red car with a key symbol in it.Then I would say it has something to do with your anti theft device.
http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4725
Allso Google this: Nissan Primera no spark

[This message has been edited by James Bond 007 (edited 01-19-2011).]

Ive had that problem with some Jeep Cherokees. I had to use the door key to unlock it (and disarm the anti theft). They FOB would unlock the doors, but not turn off the alarm so it wouldnt start. I even had one that still wouldnt work unless I opened the passenger door with the key. Apparently the drivers door switch was bad.