I need a label! Label me! (now there is an open door.)
Nothing like a totally biased quiz. I am a libertarian for the most part but there is no way one can just unleash everyone to do as they want in every area and especially 320 million people let alone 7 billion.
I am 100% capitalist but I do think it needs a referee sometimes. Corporations do not have the US citizen's best interest at heart. While I agree they should be able to do what they want (including the idea that they have ZERO obligation to create jobs for Americans) you still have to do some things to keep them from wrecking stuff. That balance is always a challenge. Even libertarians back off when something directly affects them.
And what exactly is free trade? It sure sounds good right?
Government should be out of peoples lives at all levels right? Except (insert your favorite cause.)
Everyone has opinions but they often won't draw lines. A popular one is "Isn't it worth it if it save one life?". No, it's probably not. Is a life worth spending $10M? No? $1M? No? $100k? Who wants to be the one to set the value. It's one thing to toss around a value in conversations with friends and family but another to go on TV and say it to 300 million people.
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TommyRocker Member
Posts: 2808 From: Woodstock, IL Registered: Dec 2009
- Let people control their own retirement; privatize Social Security.Agree
100% believe this. If you can't manage your money, then you failed your 65 year test. My stance on handouts extends to senior citizens. No handouts.
Social Security was never meant to be a hand out, it was a fund to protect the working class. When we started giving it away to those that didn't contribute it failed. Fix that and there is nothing wrong with SS. But if they do end it I am fine just cut me a check for the money I paid in.
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MidEngineManiac Member
Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
Social Security was never meant to be a hand out, it was a fund to protect the working class. When we started giving it away to those that didn't contribute it failed. Fix that and there is nothing wrong with SS. But if they do end it I am fine just cut me a check for the money I paid in.
Its no different than Canada...whe effed ourselves with our immigration policy when we started handing out freebies....some 3rd-world jerk fresh off the boat gets 60 grand a year in handouts and benifits for sitting on its azz, while I work 70 and 80 hour weeks to get the same 60 grand---and get to keep 2/3rds of it because some azzwipe beurocrat decided to steal from to to give to the immigrant------ship them back where they came from on thier own dime, IMHO....my idea of an immigration policy is exocet policy........ya see the boat commin, ya launch an excocet at it.
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82-T/A [At Work] Member
Posts: 25526 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
The test is designed to make you appear Libertarian.
"End Corporate Welfare" No "handouts" to corporations.
Well, we don't have a "Corporate Welfare" program by that name, so it obviously wants you to draw a parallel between any form of corporate benefit received from the government and welfare. It makes no distinction between bailouts, tax incentives, etc.
Same for censoring the media. Even those who are very pro free speech might recognize certain things, like national secrets, etc. need to be kept out of the media. Same for the draft. Of course I think it should be voluntary, but I recognize in a dire situation, like WWII, a draft may be required. Drugs - do you want to legalize ALL drugs? Or just Marijuana? Unless you're all or nothing, it's a maybe. End government barriers to free trade. That sounds good, but what does it mean? We have tarriffs designed to help American business. Ending those would hurt American business in the interest of free trade. That's part of the big outcry about outsourcing now.
If you choose a lot of maybes, it just throws you in the Centrist square. I can retake the quiz and make my answer turn out anything from far left Liberal, to far right Conservative just by answering based on different scenarios. (like, corporate welfare, I'm against bailouts, but some tax incentives are ok. That could be a for, against, or maybe answer and all would be honest)
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Social Security was never meant to be a hand out, it was a fund to protect the working class. When we started giving it away to those that didn't contribute it failed. Fix that and there is nothing wrong with SS. But if they do end it I am fine just cut me a check for the money I paid in.
It doesn't work that way. If you give up your citizenship, you don't get a check cut for the taxes you paid in either. Your Social Security Employee Tax is just that, another form of tax, and is not any form of savings that is tied to you personally. Your benefit is calculated based on your income, but it has nothing to do with what you paid in.
I need a label! Label me! (now there is an open door.)
Nothing like a totally biased quiz. I am a libertarian for the most part but there is no way one can just unleash everyone to do as they want in every area and especially 320 million people let alone 7 billion.
I am 100% capitalist but I do think it needs a referee sometimes. Corporations do not have the US citizen's best interest at heart. While I agree they should be able to do what they want (including the idea that they have ZERO obligation to create jobs for Americans) you still have to do some things to keep them from wrecking stuff. That balance is always a challenge. Even libertarians back off when something directly affects them.
And what exactly is free trade? It sure sounds good right?
Government should be out of peoples lives at all levels right? Except (insert your favorite cause.)
Everyone has opinions but they often won't draw lines. A popular one is "Isn't it worth it if it save one life?". No, it's probably not. Is a life worth spending $10M? No? $1M? No? $100k? Who wants to be the one to set the value. It's one thing to toss around a value in conversations with friends and family but another to go on TV and say it to 300 million people.
Anything that is stated using that argument. Drugs, baby car seats, bike helmets, pollution, lawn darts, you name it. Any mandated limitation or restriction.
most folk are.....but - really doesnt matter to many fools are way to deeply entrenched in the (R) & (D) fight, that they cannot vote honestly anymore. and, "the networks" cannot afford to even mention the possibility of something other than (R) & (D), because then they would have to completely re-structure their election gimmicks. So, libertarian or not - doesnt mean squat, because it will never matter.
A Great 3rd party libertarians can really destroy USA & Canada,Sure do that!!,change the repubican party KKK NAZI Ron Paul has fooled more Paulbots than I thought possible,he,s LIAR engineer of the Libertarian crazy train to the straight drop off cliff !! ..Ron Paul Votes against himselve, when he knows his Porky Pig projects will go thru any way..Remember David Duke.David Duke,,The democrat dream candidate is Drooling, senile,super liar RON PAUL,,there is a flood of bad KKK Paul news, the dems will poke the dam when needed..
You Morons still think the banks ruined us,,it was the black caucus in 2002/2003..The banks were forced against thier will to Participate...often this forum is a Cavacade of morons following simpleton in chief whiley Coybama & the leftocrats off the cliff,after the fleeing road runner,beep beep.. ..,And I am seen as wacko crazy right wing Bat crazy possible ax murderer(all true) the truth has grown to mountanous land fill proportion & you avoid the truth,,jeez u can smell it ..Ron Pauls robots have scrubbed 100,s of bad post about him & they flood selection meetings,,The dems have scrubbed Morgage2002/2003 from internet,,I impressed,,now guilty such as Franks & Meeks,Waters are portrayed as Hero,s for the oppressed & guardian of your taxes.. Sleepy time now
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