quote Originally posted by newf: America had the best over all health care system?

Yes. In quality and the amount of research and innovations especially.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Yes. In quality and the amount of research and innovations especially.

Innovations I could buy but I doubt it on the quality part. Well if you have the money to pay for it maybe

Any facts or just your opinion?

quote Originally posted by fierobear: The Media Fall for Phony 'Jobs' Claims Mr. Fratto sees a double standard at play. "We would never have used a formula like 'save or create,'" he tells me. "To begin with, the number is pure fiction -- the administration has no way to measure how many jobs are actually being 'saved.' And if we had tried to use something this flimsy, the press would never have let us get away with it." Of course, the inability to measure Mr. Obama's jobs formula is part of its attraction. Never mind that no one -- not the Labor Department, not the Treasury, not the Bureau of Labor Statistics -- actually measures "jobs saved." As the New York Times delicately reports, Mr. Obama's jobs claims are "based on macroeconomic estimates, not an actual counting of jobs." Nice work if you can get away with it.

That's a flat right-wing lie, and you kow it. France spends one-third what we do on health care, and they are number one in health care in the world. And they are totally socialized medicine there. I wish we had it here.