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24Yr Old Ashley Phalen dies while doing the Mario Andretti Driving Experience by JimmyS
Started on: 10-16-2010 11:22 PM
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I have done this driving experience and to anyone planning to do it themselves, THIS IS NO JOKE!

They tell you straight up during the class that this is not a time for games. If you wreck in these cars you will die.

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Report this Post10-16-2010 11:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GeckoSend a Private Message to GeckoDirect Link to This Post
shame. I am really surprised that they allow you to go up to 160mph. I understand you sign waivers and all, but still.

btw this is an interesting comment someone made on that site.

"I did the richard petty driving experience in Charlotte but I would not sue them if i had been killed. That was my choice to do it and i would take the consequences."

I too would not sue if I had been killed LOL
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Report this Post10-16-2010 11:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTDirect Link to This Post
If it happened in California, you can bet the attorneys jammed the parent's phone lines within 5 minutes of the crash. The point of driving a race car is going fast. She knew what she was getting into. If you want to go slow, take the bus.

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Originally posted by Gecko:

shame. I am really surprised that they allow you to go up to 160mph. I understand you sign waivers and all, but still.

btw this is an interesting comment someone made on that site.

"I did the richard petty driving experience in Charlotte but I would not sue them if i had been killed. That was my choice to do it and i would take the consequences."

I too would not sue if I had been killed LOL



Heh, I did the Richard Petty driving experience too. Mine was in Orlando... it is pretty tough, it's defintiely not easy. You really have to trust the car because the G forces in the turns are far more than your ever willing to give the benefit of the doubt on a car. I mean... it holds much easier than it feels like it does... but even still, you can go into the turn to fast and really have to fight it. It's difficult because, unlike someone who drives their Fiero every day and knows exactly how it handles... we don't drive an NASCAR vehicle, or in this case, an Indy car evey day... so you really don't know what to expect. On one of my turns, I had to really ease up and came close to the wall... but was just giving myself a wide birth so I wouldn't break the tires loose.

In the end, I only got up to 116 mph. When they handed me the sheet, I said... "dang, I've been faster than this in my Fiero!" haha.... but it's hard because on the Orlando track, it's not very long, so it seems like you're ALWAYS turning.

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Report this Post10-17-2010 12:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for crazydClick Here to visit crazyd's HomePageSend a Private Message to crazydDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Gecko:
"I did the richard petty driving experience in Charlotte but I would not sue them if i had been killed. That was my choice to do it and i would take the consequences."

I too would not sue if I had been killed LOL


Maybe the author was thinking he gets three tries before being killed to death.
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Report this Post10-17-2010 12:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
Probably thought it would only kill him a little.
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Report this Post10-17-2010 11:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pokeyfieroClick Here to visit pokeyfiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to pokeyfieroDirect Link to This Post
An after-hours phone message for the Andretti Driving Experience wasn't immediately returned.

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

An after-hours phone message for the Andretti Driving Experience wasn't immediately returned.


aahhh--yuuuppp........suing after death and after-hours calls not immediately returned...

they sure-a breedin 'em smurt down der dees days.
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:


aahhh--yuuuppp........suing after death and after-hours calls not immediately returned...

they sure-a breedin 'em smurt down der dees days.


Nothing to do with smart, its just become SOP to not take responsibility for your actions and sue everyone else. Shakespeare was right.

You can expect the program to be shut down or become a 'passenger only' event. + millions awarded.

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

If it happened in California, you can bet the attorneys jammed the parent's phone lines within 5 minutes of the crash. The point of driving a race car is going fast. She knew what she was getting into. If you want to go slow, take the bus.



True. Because everyone knows that nothing makes up for losing yor daughter like cold hard cash. I hate lawyers. Where is Gloria Alread?
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Report this Post10-19-2010 03:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kevinSend a Private Message to kevinDirect Link to This Post
Fellas,

I beieve the drivers who participate in this activity MUST sign an affidavit waiving their right to sue for negligence. I beleive I signed one before I was allowed to jump into the drivers seat. Second, you do not realy drive at 140 mph. This is an adjusted speed based on the size of the car, compared to the track, against the higher sence of speed you "think" you are driving since you are closer to the ground. If she sues, the defense attorneys are going to quickly bring up the 'I promise not to sue you' paperwork. The Gloria Alreds (sic) of the world can only then argue the girl signed it under duress or emotional distress, either emotional or intentional. On this argument, they wlll lose.

I hate attorney as well,

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Report this Post10-19-2010 03:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
Heck you can buy cars that are electronically limited to 155MPH.... (well, cars under $50K).
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Report this Post10-19-2010 03:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
You sign a waiver to go onto any racetrack. You accept sole responsibility. The ONLY chance of a successful lawsuit would be if it was due to car failure. Shame for the accident but it is what it is. Those types of 'experiences' should be limited to completely enclosed cars like the Nascar experience cars. You can die in a street car accident at 40 mph. I even doubt you could be successful suing if you were a rider in a 2 seater racecar where another person is driving it.
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Originally posted by jaskispyder:

Heck you can buy cars that are electronically limited to 155MPH.... (well, cars under $50K).


You can buy cars for $15,000 that go 160 actually. For about 5,000 you can buy a bike that will do the same.

I am sure though 100% the whole turning and forces thing makes it intense!

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Report this Post10-19-2010 05:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Doni HaganSend a Private Message to Doni HaganDirect Link to This Post
There is (or was, I'm not sure now) a go-kart track near LA in the SF Valley called "Malibu Grand Prix" that had to put governors on their karts as a result of a teenaged girl breaking her spine. The Karts weren't the "sit up straight" type but full "F1" bodied, lay down in the car, point-and-squirt karts. From what I remember, she hit a turn too quickly and rolled it.

This was a few years ago. Although I'm sorry for the girl and hope she recovered fully from her injuries, I remember being really PO'ed that they had to slow the cars down. They were a BLAST to drive!


BTW....Howz it goin', Lefty??

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Originally posted by Doni Hagan:

There is (or was, I'm not sure now) a go-kart track near LA in the SF Valley called "Malibu Grand Prix" that had to put governors on their karts as a result of a teenaged girl breaking her spine. The Karts weren't the "sit up straight" type but full "F1" bodied, lay down in the car, point-and-squirt karts. From what I remember, she hit a turn too quickly and rolled it.

This was a few years ago. Although I'm sorry for the girl and hope she recovered fully from her injuries, I remember being really PO'ed that they had to slow the cars down. They were a BLAST to drive!


BTW....Howz it goin', Lefty??


They had one in Anaheim, must have been after they slowed them down.
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Originally posted by Doni Hagan:

There is (or was, I'm not sure now) a go-kart track near LA in the SF Valley called "Malibu Grand Prix" that had to put governors on their karts as a result of a teenaged girl breaking her spine. The Karts weren't the "sit up straight" type but full "F1" bodied, lay down in the car, point-and-squirt karts. From what I remember, she hit a turn too quickly and rolled it.

This was a few years ago. Although I'm sorry for the girl and hope she recovered fully from her injuries, I remember being really PO'ed that they had to slow the cars down. They were a BLAST to drive!




You are correct. Malibu Grand Prix is in Redwood City, about 10 minutes from my house. They are a mini indy car style and stick like glue. They are almost impossible to roll so she must have gotten onto a pretty rough part of the infield. They now also have two seaters. Here is a pic. I have no idea who she is but you can get an idea of the car:
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Originally posted by IMSA GT:


You are correct. Malibu Grand Prix is in Redwood City, about 10 minutes from my house. They are a mini indy car style and stick like glue. They are almost impossible to roll so she must have gotten onto a pretty rough part of the infield. They now also have two seaters. Here is a pic. I have no idea who she is but you can get an idea of the car:


Thanks. I called a friend in the valley and he said the one I was thinking about was in Northridge. Since it seems there's more than one location, I wonder if they slowed down the karts at all of them. I have fond memories of that track. If I gave the manager a few bucks on the side, he'd let me go as long as I wanted. One time, he even let me and some friends stay on after they "closed."

Nice to know they're still around.
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