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You Can't Advertise with Us – You're 'Christian' by avengador1
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http://www.wnd.com/index.ph...E.view&pageId=210573
 
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A bookstore in Kittanning, Pa., was told its advertisement in a local restaurant's holiday menu was rejected by the ad publisher, simply because the store had the word "Christian" in its name.

Reverend Don Toy, owner of the Christian Book and Gift Store, told the Kittanning Paper that a salesman entered his store and sold him a business-sized, $135 advertisement to run in a special Christmas menu at Garda's Restaurant in nearby Ford City.

But, Toy said, the salesman returned a few hours later and told him, "''We have a problem. I contacted headquarters. Our company has rejected your ad. They told me I have to return your check. We don't take religious advertising. They are exercising the clause in the contract you signed [stating] their right to cancel with you.'"

Specifically, the clause in the contract with Brecht-Pacific Publishing, Incorporated, located in Longview, Wash., states the publisher "reserves the right to refuse, edit or omit any portion of any ad that we think is offensive, sensitive, questionable or otherwise not in good taste."

When Toy asked how his ad violated the clause, the salesman explained it was rejected because of its name.

"It has the word 'Christian' in it," the salesman reportedly said, and it might be considered "offensive" to non-Christians.

"You've got to be kidding!" Toy said. "I have heard about being politically correct, but this was beyond what I could imagine."

Toy told WND that neither the sales representative nor the restaurant owner agreed with the decision, but that the call was made at corporate headquarters.

But when word of the controversy reached those headquarters, Toy told WND, he was contacted.

"A representative called me, wanting to clarify," Toy said. "He explained that someone had misinterpreted the policy banning religious advertising to include a Christian bookstore as well. He said he regretted the error and his company would accept the ad."

The representative further explained that the company had been sued several years ago by a satanic group for rejecting its ads and accepting those from Christian churches. Since then, the company had placed a "stop sign" on any ads that were expressly religious or political.

Ken Brecht, Vice-President of BPPI, told the Kittanning Paper, "We have made a policy not to put things [in our ads] – religious, political, things where people might be bothered by us taking a side – because we have to show all sides. For that reason and because of the issue with Satan worshipping – we are a company that mostly everyone who works for us, we believe, professes to be Christian – we don't want to put Satan worshippers or Satan-worshipping insignias on menus. … That has been our policy not to offend anybody, because we certainly don't find anything about being a Christian offensive.

"A gift shop is welcome to advertise on the menu," he added, "and I apologize for what's happened and how this has taken legs. I think it could have been avoided if somebody would have called and talked to me, but I apologize. It is not what I intended. I have no problem with his book store/gift store being on the menu."

Toy, however, says that an apology and invitation to resubmit the ad wasn't enough to earn back his business.

He told WND that he explained to the representative, "That your staff would even have a problem with the name 'Christian' is a sign of what's going on in this country. For a nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles to have become so PC that someone would worry that the term 'Christian' could be offensive? It's mind-boggling."

The restaurant's owner, Chris Arco, told the Kittanning Paper he too is not satisfied.

"I am trying everything I can do to get out from that [contract]. I am very much not happy," Arco said. "I have never had to worry about an advertiser doing something like this, deeming a local Christian bookstore to not be appropriate. There is nothing wrong with that being placed on the menu."


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I don't see the problem with it. Would people get in an uproar if it was say Wicka or Satanist or Atheism?
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A bookstore in Kittanning, Pa., was told its advertisement in a local restaurant's holiday menu was rejected by the ad publisher, simply because the store had the word "Christian" in its name.

Bull crap. A publisher prints what it is told to print.
Publisher ? They do books and periodicals. A holiday menu would go to a printer, .
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Private businesses should have the right to refuse any business for any reason. Its called freedom.

Restricting governmental entities or business that take handouts ( cash, contracts, tax breaks, whatever ) from the government is cool tho.
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Originally posted by cliffw:

Bull crap. A publisher prints what it is told to print.
Publisher ? They do books and periodicals. A holiday menu would go to a printer, .


I'm sure it was just inaccurate use of the terms and they meant a job printer.
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You Can't Advertise with Us – You're 'Christian'


 
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from article:

We don't take religious advertising.


The only reason this is getting news is because it's a Christian that was stood up. If it was anybody else (except for maybe muslim), this would be getting swept under the carpet and we'd never know about it. If it was plainly written in the agreement that they don't take religious advertising then I don't see the problem. They aren't discriminating against any single religion. Buncha smoke and mirrors for a sensationalist article.

 
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"A representative called me, wanting to clarify," Toy said. "He explained that someone had misinterpreted the policy banning religious advertising to include a Christian bookstore as well. He said he regretted the error and his company would accept the ad."



 
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The representative further explained that the company had been sued several years ago by a satanic group for rejecting its ads and accepting those from Christian churches. Since then, the company had placed a "stop sign" on any ads that were expressly religious or political.


Read the entire article. Therein lies your explanation and I think it's a good one. Although they went against the policy when when it appeared they were going to get bad press. Whatever.

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Originally posted by Rallaster:

If it was anybody else (except for maybe muslim), this would be getting swept under the carpet and we'd never know about it.



Right, if it was 'against Muslims', they would be getting bomb threats, abstract threats from 'visiting FBI agents' and The O would get on TV and say how racist and bad it is and that it might offend our enemies.
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Originally posted by User00013170:


Right, if it was 'against Muslims', they would be getting bomb threats, abstract threats from 'visiting FBI agents' and The O would get on TV and say how racist and bad it is and that it might offend our enemies.


Welcome to the new Amerika. Some people are more equal than others.


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Welcome to the new Amerika. Some people are more equal than others.



And has been forever.
That's nothing new.

But I get what you are saying.
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And has been forever.
That's nothing new.

But I get what you are saying.


If anything, it's not getting better.

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I don't see the big deal. One company decided not to do business with another. OK, maybe the reason for their decision is a bit "douchebaggish". But nobody's rights were violated. No crimes were committed. In a free market economy, people are free to make these kinds of decisions.
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

I don't see the big deal. One company decided not to do business with another. OK, maybe the reason for their decision is a bit "douchebaggish". But nobody's rights were violated. No crimes were committed. In a free market economy, people are free to make these kinds of decisions.


What they did was not "douchebaggish" beyond not doing business with ALL religious entities. Apparently, it's in their policy and has been since they got sued for publishing a Christian ad and not a Satanic ad.

Damn.. another post deserving of my sig.. :/

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