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This was a good read and I agree with the Officer on this matter. I hope Colorado follows AZ and passes something like this.

From what i was reading the law said that anyone in custody had to produce proof of citizenship. I don't see a problem with that.

Heard on radio a objector saying something along the lines of ' ..an illegal alien not committing a crime.. bla bla bla...'.. bs they are here illegally.

The fact that we are even arguing about enforcing laws and securing our borders is really depressing.

Finally..an articulate and authoritative voice. Great article.

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In the comment section of this particular police officers article, I rhetorically queried about the possibility of sharing this peice with the major media folk. I wish I knew how to do that? Oh, by the way, maybe Curly can be sent a personal letter of this well written article. I wonder if he would then see the light? Wouldn't it be ironic if the police officer who wrote the peice was a Democrate? What would Curly then say?

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quote Originally posted by kevin: Nick, In the comment section of this particular police officers article, I rhetorically queried about the possibility of sharing this peice with the major media folk. I wish I knew how to do that? Oh, by the way, maybe Curly can be sent a personal letter of this well written article. I wonder if he would then see the light? Wouldn't it be ironic if the police officer who wrote the peice was a Democrate? What would Curly then say? Cordially, Kevin

The Media doesn't care. Have you seen anything good about Arizona lately on the news? Right now Face the Nation is asking how close Arizona is to Nazi Germany.

It doesn't matter what anyone says. Right now I am listening to Congressman Luis Cutierrez-D,Il, saying, "We may have outstayed our visa, or we may have walked across a border, but we are not criminals."

Who voted for this a hole, and how can anyone justify voting for this guy?

Brad

I was surprised to see a guest editorial in the morning paper written by the person who helped draft SB1070 (Portland is one of the most liberal cities in the U.S.). It was first published in the New York Times, another surprise. Here's the link:

Immigration debate: Opponents should read the Arizona law

Everyone should read SB1070 before forming an opinion.

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quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: Madcurl will never see the light. He hates police with a passion as seen in all of his postings about them. He can't see anything positive the police do, only the negative. I bet he would claim he was being profiled if he is stopped by them, even if it is for cause. He is the type of guy who wonders why he gets stopped so often. He blames it on his skin color and accuses the police of being racist, even if they are the same skin color he is. All of this from a guy who drives a car that screams look at me.

Dr. Avengaydor. I didn't know you were a Proctologist. Seriously, you're RFT horns are showing. Tell Shawn I said "hello," hehe.

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quote Originally posted by kevin: Nick, In the comment section of this particular police officers article, I rhetorically queried about the possibility of sharing this peice with the major media folk. I wish I knew how to do that? Oh, by the way, maybe Curly can be sent a personal letter of this well written article. I wonder if he would then see the light? Wouldn't it be ironic if the police officer who wrote the peice was a Democrate? What would Curly then say? Cordially, Kevin

I'll let you in on a secret Kevin, Just in case you weren't sure, The Police Officer who wrote this was me

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quote Originally posted by NickD3.4: I'll let you in on a secret Kevin, Just in case you weren't sure, The Police Officer who wrote this was me

The same person who wrote about legalization of marijuana.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/073163.html

quote Originally posted by madcurl: The same person who wrote about legalization of marijuana.

And, the problem is ?

Oh look, we have another forum member who is a law enforcement officer that contributed to his thread.

quote Originally posted by Vonov: If given a choice between being in a roomful of stoners and a roomful of alkies...the stoners, hands down. "This stuff doesn't affect me one bit...anybody got a fifty pound bag of Oreo cookies?" I'd vote for legalization just to choke off the money supply for the cartels...and tax it at ten bucks an ounce.

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quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: Tell him yourself, if you have the balls. For a person who speaks so big and bad about the police, I bet you wouldn't dare. Your avatar certainly suits you. You defnitely are a stooge.

I'm sorry, avengaydor1. I'm not a member of RFT- you are.

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quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: So join. Many here are members there too, so what's your point? You are just one big talking wimp. You don't respect authority and are a racist. You would fit in RFT better than I do.

A futile attempt at provoking me to join band of losers who can't "declare their independence" from Pennock's. Weak. Last I checked, you guys reduced the banner size, "declare your independence." Tell Shawn I said, Hello.

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quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: Like I said before, tell him yourself you pompous coward.

Shhh.... I have (saved) files on you.

Mean time, here's a larger pic of your RFT's old name.

avengaydor1, just like his leader and body guard- trying to act tough and ordering people around.



avengaydor1, tell Shawn I said, "hello."

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Group hug for the others. IBTC

quote Originally posted by kyunderdawg: Nick, nice read. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Group hug for the others. IBTC

LOL! thanks man. much appreciated.

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quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: Here is the kind of story I'm sure you like to read and yet you have no clue as to why Police are so preoccupied about approaching a suspect. htt p://www.aolnews.com/nati...-shooting%2F19462259 Maybe your ex will stop you someday and literally knock some sense into you.

avengaydor1, tell Shawn I said, "hello."

Good read Nick! I linked it on my FB and a few opponents of the law change their stance on it. Thanks for the link!

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: A futile attempt at provoking me to join band of losers who can't "declare their independence" from Pennock's. Weak. Last I checked, you guys reduced the banner size, "declare your independence." Tell Shawn I said, Hello.

I'm not a member of RFT, but I am a member of other internet forums besides PFF. PFF is by far my favorite, but really, does it matter what other places I go on the internet?

Brad

Nicely done, sums it up well. People against this law are either very ignorant, just plain stupid, or do not likeor care about the united states.

quote Originally posted by NickD3.4: http://circlethewagons.net/...%80%99s-perspective/

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I found your article to be enlightening and congratulate you on a very well written article. I do have a question though.

quote Originally posted by NickD3.4 article: After processing, I contacted ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement). They told me they did not have the man power to send and could not pick the man up for detainment. Being local law enforcement, we had no authority to hold the man based on his citizenship and had to let him go.]

What's to keep the Feds, (ICE) from pulling the same tactic and leaving all the captured undocumented (illegal) aliens in AZ's custody, as in, you captured them, they're your problem, no manpower to come get them. I guess you could always just drop them off at the CA border.

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: I'm not a member of RFT, but I am a member of other internet forums besides PFF. PFF is by far my favorite, but really, does it matter what other places I go on the internet? Brad

Yeah, you can go anywhere on the internet, but you better be careful.

quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: I just ran a spyware check, after being there, and found a keystroke logger, be careful if you go over there. They also are parroting some of my posts here.

However, this clown (avengaydor) wants your to join-up.

quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: Like I said before, tell him yourself you pompous coward.

Dude, you're four to five steps behind me. I play chess- not checkers.

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quote Originally posted by blackrams: What's to keep the Feds, (ICE) from pulling the same tactic and leaving all the captured undocumented (illegal) aliens in AZ's custody, as in, you captured them, they're your problem, no manpower to come get them. I guess you could always just drop them off at the CA border. Ron

This is a good question. Not sure what they will do about this. Since were on the brink of a new law, Im sure there are still some things to work out. I dont see this happening though, or becoming an issue. We'll see.

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quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: So I say people should join, what is wrong with that Shawngurl? Oh, by the way Hi!

quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: Anybody that believes anything said over there about anyone over here should get their head examined. How low can these loosers go?

I'm a bit confused. The "new" AZ immigration law simply adds a state charge to any federal charge for being an illegal alien, right? What's the problem? Either you are here legally or you aren't. If you are here legally, have a nice day, can I buy you a coffee? If you are here illegally, get in the back of the squad car and we'd be happy to transport your illegal butt back to wherever you came from (not necessarily Mexico although I think that's sort of what the law is geared towards).

BTW, IBTC

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quote Originally posted by avengador1: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck?

Is that some kind of duck joke? A quack at me perhaps?

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quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: So join. Many here are members there too, so what's your point? You are just one big talking wimp. You don't respect authority and are a racist. You would fit in RFT better than I do.

quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: You also should refrain from posting your nonsense in this thread, as you are clogging it up and taken it off topic, but maybe that was your plan all along.

quote Originally posted by avengaydor1: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck? Get my drift Madgurl? You certainly have a huge chip on your shoulder. Go play over at RFT where YOU belong.

Moronic asinine rantings of avengaydor1. I've got him so confused- he doesn't know which way is up. Give it up avengaydor1- I have too many files on you.

quote Originally posted by Monkeyman: I'm a bit confused. The "new" AZ immigration law simply adds a state charge to any federal charge for being an illegal alien, right? What's the problem? Either you are here legally or you aren't. If you are here legally, have a nice day, can I buy you a coffee? If you are here illegally, get in the back of the squad car and we'd be happy to transport your illegal butt back to wherever you came from (not necessarily Mexico although I think that's sort of what the law is geared towards). BTW, IBTC

It mirrors the federal law. So rather then it ONLY being a federal charge, the state can charge as well.

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Nick, I'm sorry I have contributed to cluttering up your thread. If you want I will remove all my comments not pertaining to it to clean things up a bit.

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