http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...-marriage-Yemen.html

Who the hell would do that to a 13-year old kid..........he deserves to have it burned off with a welding torch--and I got an ignitor !!

I read that a few days ago and was so sickend I couldn't post it.

Stone-aged cultures.

But should they be forced to unaturally progress to what other cultures consider "acceptable"?

I read somewhere once that missionaries main goal back in the days was to go to this "evolutionary stagnate" cultures and educate them to stop them from eating eachother & treating their kids like disposable items, sexually.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I read that a few days ago and was so sickend I couldn't post it. Stone-aged cultures. But should they be forced to unaturally progress to what other cultures consider "acceptable"? I read somewhere once that missionaries main goal back in the days was to go to this "evolutionary stagnate" cultures and educate them to stop them from eating eachother & treating their kids like disposable items, sexually.

Right, its a fine line here, where we are wanting to impose 'modern values' onto other cultures.. Do we have the right? Especially when it crosses over into religious beliefs..

Personally i agree its wrong to abuse children, but we do things they find morally objectionable too... who's 'rights' win if we open Pandora's box and impose onto others?

And i didn't read the story for details ( don't need more doom and gloom ) but remember too, even here not too long ago a 12 year old was ok to marry.. So even we don't have much room to toss stones.

We might not have much room to toss stones--but any way ya cut it, screwing a kid to death is just wrong on so many levels.

quote And i didn't read the story for details ( don't need more doom and gloom ) but remember too, even here not too long ago a 12 year old was ok to marry.. So even we don't have much room to toss stones.

At least we came to our senses. Over there the parents decide when their children can marry. The article mentions an 8 year old girl that went by herself to file for divorce. Letting children marry that young is ridiculous.

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quote Originally posted by avengador1: At least we came to our senses. Over there the parents decide when their children can marry. The article mentions an 8 year old girl that went by herself to file for divorce. Letting children marry that young is ridiculous.

For us here on this side of the fence, ya it is offensive and makes no sense, but when the average life expectancy is in the 30's in some parts of the world? My grandmother was married when she was 12, and kids by 15. Lived a long happy life with her husband.

And please don't anyone get the wrong idea, I'm not supporting it abuse/etc.. just that things like this are not as black and white as we want them to be.

"Tribal custom also plays a role, including the belief that a young bride can be shaped into an obedient wife, bear more children and be kept away from temptation."

Sexual abuse is a very serious problem world-wide. S.E.S. makes no difference on the prevalence which is 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys. Horrible crime that even the DSM-IV TR states has no cure or treatment.

quote Originally posted by psychosurfer: Sexual abuse is a very serious problem world-wide. S.E.S. makes no difference on the prevalence which is 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 5 boys. Horrible crime that even the DSM-IV TR states has no cure or treatment.

Too many acronyms .. But i doubt its that low of a % in developing countries

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I read that a few days ago and was so sickend I couldn't post it. Stone-aged cultures. But should they be forced to unaturally progress to what other cultures consider "acceptable"?

Hmm - Any other ideas where we should go and forcibly impose our values on people in other soverign countries?

And other countries who feel that they have the right to 'force" our nation's culture to change what we consider acceptable, I assume by your statement that they have the right to also if they consier themselfs a more progressive culture than ours.

Saying we should force other countries to do things our way opens up a huge can of worms. Soverign countries are just that.

Before you go around deciding to force other countries what to do you had better look at the history of YOUR country and the ideas it had to capture free people and enslave them. The U.S.'s hands are hardly clean when it comes to peoples rights.

A truely 'progressive' country respects other countries rights.

quote Originally posted by phonedawgz: I assume by your statement that they have the right to also if they consier themselfs a more progressive culture than ours.

I never really ment to make a statement, more of an internal question pushed outward.
Which I guess, could sound like a statement.
Ooops.

how old was Mary when she had Jesus?

anyways - the age of consent in the USA, at the time it was formed was 10

this 16, and 18 are in fact recent things. and, some states are still at 14, arent they?

and, isnt it funny that just about all the attributes that make a person attractive are also attributes of youth? the only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head are Boobs & Butts. everything else - baby features. pouty lips. blush cheeks. even the blonde hair/blue eyes - thems baby colorings.

and - next - and most important: since we have finally deteremined that "the gays" are not 'made', they are 'born that way', this would imply these pedophiles are the same - and that would also imply there is no "cure", since you cant "cure" gay either. which would mean that our traditional concept of "rehabilitation" is flawed for these folk.

…and they call us infidels…

quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: how old was Mary when she had Jesus? anyways - the age of consent in the USA, at the time it was formed was 10 this 16, and 18 are in fact recent things. and, some states are still at 14, arent they? and, isnt it funny that just about all the attributes that make a person attractive are also attributes of youth? the only exceptions I can think of off the top of my head are Boobs & Butts. everything else - baby features. pouty lips. blush cheeks. even the blonde hair/blue eyes - thems baby colorings. and - next - and most important: since we have finally deteremined that "the gays" are not 'made', they are 'born that way', this would imply these pedophiles are the same - and that would also imply there is no "cure", since you cant "cure" gay either. which would mean that our traditional concept of "rehabilitation" is flawed for these folk.

I don't see how you can ever logically come to the conclusion that pedophiles have a genetic predisposition, and there is no reason to compare them to sexual preferences.

The "cure" rates of gays and pedifiles both approach zero. I know they are completely different and pedifiles hurt children, but the numbers show a strong case being born and raised for either one.