been wanting to make this thread for a while, but i know the majority of people who speak up on the subject hate us as much as racist folks hate black people lol. im a juggalo, a REAL juggalo, not the fake a$$ ones that make the news every now and then. mostly i just want to see what everyone here thinks of us lol. one reason i didnt start this thread yet is because im new here, and id like to have a good reputation with the fiero crowd, but since the average person doesnt like juggalos, i was worried it might make yall see me in a different light lol.

or hell, if anyone here wants to ask about Juggalos and whatnot, i would be happy to give you info. just fyi to everyone, if youve met a juggalo or seen one or whatnot, it was most likely just a poser who couldnt fit in with other crowds. thats why we have such a bad rep...all the idiots who cant make friends otherwise decide to dress in Psychopathic Records's clothing and call themselves juggalos... the majority of juggalos and juggalettes are posers :/

please dont be insulting. if you hate juggalos, go ahead and say so, but please explain, IN DETAIL, as to why you hate us, and be polite about it please.


soooooooo, go ahead and discuss lol, ill prolly reply to almost every post that warrants a reply lol

I used to listen to ICP whenever they were on, but just kinda stopped. I guess they just kinda dropped off my radar.

Last night was a report on you evil evil people on Nightline. ICP (I don't know the guy's names) were actually very articulate, and made some good points.

What exactly makes you a Jugalo? And why?

Brad

Had to use Wikipedia to even know what the hell a Juggalo was. I don't get out much.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggalo
Juggalo or Juggalette (the latter being feminine) is a name given to fans of Insane Clown Posse or any other Psychopathic Records hip hop group. Juggalos have developed their own idioms, slang and characteristics.[1]

Can't say that I like hip hop but, I don't know anyone personally that listens to that noise so, can't give a qualified anwswer.

Ron

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my friend used to be a juggalo. i think he calmed down. from what he told me, its a lifestyle based for losers n life. losers meaning they are deemed as a loser from society.

do i hate them? i dislike them if ppl actually try to live their lifestyle... like doing drugs and drinking all the time... chances are they will not succeed n life. i dont really know if that is what they do. it is what i have witnessed. its like living in a fake reality sort of. if i am wrong correct me then.

some of icp's music is funny. twizted too, and blaze ya dead homie? they are okay. I wont go out and buy their music though.

Could you please explain what a Juggalos/Juggalettes/ICP IS? I am not familiar with these terms, maybe I know what it is and it is called another name or word?

Never mind by the time I posted there was an answer.

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: I used to listen to ICP whenever they were on, but just kinda stopped. I guess they just kinda dropped off my radar. Last night was a report on you evil evil people on Nightline. ICP (I don't know the guy's names) were actually very articulate, and made some good points. What exactly makes you a Jugalo? And why? Brad

yea my buddy said ICP was on lol. but yea, Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent Jay (the fat one) arent just dumb hicks or thugs, they are just two goofy dudes who make goofy fun random music and like to wear clown makeup lol.

Im a Juggalo because i like ICP's/Psychopathic's music, and i like the ideals of the Juggalo community. The main ideal is that the whole Juggalo community is one big family, and REAL Juggalos treat eachother as such. the problem nowadays is its so hard to know who is just a poser and who isnt. being a juggalo is so taboo its almost like a fad for outcasts. its an actual lifestyle. there are no real "rules" i suppose. pretty much you just gotta enjoy the music and agree on the ideals of the community

Lordy, this is taking way too much research. I don't understand half of what Wiki is talking about, had to use Wiki to defind Psychopathic Records.


Psychopathic Records, also known as "The Hatchet", is an independent record label based in Royal Oak, Michigan, in the United States, which was formed in 1991[1] by Alex Abbiss and hip hop group Insane Clown Posse.


Sorry, I'll stay on my side of the street, you're welcome to visit but, I'm not going over to your side. My brain is starting to hurt just reading this stuff.

Ron

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Lordy, this is taking way too much research. I don't understand half of what Wiki is talking about, had to use Wiki to defind Psychopathic Records. Psychopathic Records, also known as "The Hatchet", is an independent record label based in Royal Oak, Michigan, in the United States, which was formed in 1991[1] by Alex Abbiss and hip hop group Insane Clown Posse. Sorry, I'll stay on my side of the street, you're welcome to visit but, I'm not going over to your side. My brain is starting to hurt just reading this stuff. Ron

lol, wikipedia is wrong in sayin its also known as "The Hatchet" lol. any reference to the hatchet is either in the Psychopathic Records logo (the hatchetman) or talking about "holding the hatchet" which means basically being a juggalo. or "dropping the hatchet" lol.

but thats ok lol. if you met me, of first glance youd prolly think im a wigger or something, but if you talked to me your head would prolly explode lol. in real life, i have excellent grammer, dont act like a wigger, and am insanely polite lol

quote Originally posted by faaaaq: lol, wikipedia is wrong in sayin its also known as "The Hatchet" lol. any reference to the hatchet is either in the Psychopathic Records logo (the hatchetman) or talking about "holding the hatchet" which means basically being a juggalo. or "dropping the hatchet" lol. but thats ok lol. if you met me, of first glance youd prolly think im a wigger or something, but if you talked to me your head would prolly explode lol. in real life, i have excellent grammer, dont act like a wigger, and am insanely polite lol

Insanely polite I can handle but, what the hell is a faaaaq?

Ron

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quote Originally posted by blackrams: Insanely polite I can handle but, what the hell is a faaaq? Ron

lol, faaaaq is something my mom's ex boyfriend taught me. read it like faaaa is one part, and Q is a separate word lol

I stated earlier that I didn't get out much, now, I am afraid to leave the house.

Ron

quote Originally posted by blackrams: I stated earlier that I didn't get out much, now, I am afraid to leave the house. Ron

lol. sorta off/on topic, in some southern places, there is a group, i think called "The Juggalo Holocaust." they go around with the specific intent to attack Juggalos. they search em out and attack them. for some reason they hate us so much they decide to attack us..

I spent the formative years of my life in Michigan, north of the Detroit area. (worst 8 years btw.) I left there when ICP was just starting to make it big, for just being a local group. (Eminem / Marshal Mathers / Slim Shady / whatever he was (is)... was in same situation as them, but was still getting booed off some stages.)

I don't get it then. I still don't get it. They just seemed like drones who followed the music because it told them too...

I never had an issue with any. When I was Air Force, My #2 guy was an ICP fan with Clown Tats. His nick name was Puck. Good guy.

-Dave

quote Originally posted by IFLYR22: I spent the formative years of my life in Michigan, north of the Detroit area. (worst 8 years btw.) I left there when ICP was just starting to make it big, for just being a local group. (Eminem / Marshal Mathers / Slim Shady / whatever he was (is)... was in same situation as them, but was still getting booed off some stages.) I don't get it then. I still don't get it. They just seemed like drones who followed the music because it told them too... I never had an issue with any. When I was Air Force, My #2 guy was an ICP fan with Clown Tats. His nick name was Puck. Good guy. -Dave

the "drones" are pretty much the posers. it makes me sad that real juggalos get a bad rep because most of us are just posers

i listen to it but dont go all head over heals for it. i kinda like twizted but icp is better. as far a being a juggalo goes I think its dumb as hell. But thats my opinion and i dont want to start a flame war over it. I can respect the music but not the colt following it. Ive been to a concert and have a cd sighed by violent j and 2 dope. Other than that ill take it or leave it. The best song they have is hall of illusions.

What’s to hate so you like that sort of thing I do not think that is a good reason to hate anyone.
But this on the other hand scared me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipper_Gore back in the day this crazy _ wanted to impose censorship but she only got so far with it.

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quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: i listen to it but dont go all head over heals for it. i kinda like twizted but icp is better. as far a being a juggalo goes I think its dumb as hell. But thats my opinion and i dont want to start a flame war over it. I can respect the music but not the colt following it. Ive been to a concert and have a cd sighed by violent j and 2 dope. Other than that ill take it or leave it. The best song they have is hall of illusions.

like ive said, the "cult following" is just a bunch of losers who dont fit in anywhere else. many REAL juggalos have grown out of listening to the music, but still agree with the ideals, again being mainly to treat other juggalos as family

O.K. what then is the Juggalo lifestyle? You gotta be getting some tail or something right?

No offense, but it seems to be a lot like Emo, with more violence and clown makeup.

Explain what you think it is.

Brad

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: O.K. what then is the Juggalo lifestyle? You gotta be getting some tail or something right? No offense, but it seems to be a lot like Emo, with more violence and clown makeup. Explain what you think it is. Brad

the violence is from the fakes and posers lol. the Juggalo lifestyle is treating eachother as family, accepting people regardless of differences, having fun, standing up for one another, etc. i know my words may be hard to believe, but try to trust me lol, way more than half of "Juggalos" are just posers. "REAL" juggalos are nothing like the ones most people are exposed to.

but yes, juggalos do get a lot of juggalette tail, IF the said juggalo is a chubby chaser lol. most juggalettes are quite overweight lol

quote Originally posted by faaaaq: like ive said, the "cult following" is just a bunch of losers who dont fit in anywhere else. many REAL juggalos have grown out of listening to the music, but still agree with the ideals, again being mainly to treat other juggalos as family

Does that mean that if I listen to the Clown band, I can borrow money?

Ron

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Does that mean that if I listen to the Clown band, I can borrow money? Ron

not from me lol, i dont loan money to family lol.

Sounds like your taking it to serious, I listen to ICP, actually grew up on the earlier stuff.

quote Originally posted by Fosgatecavy98: Sounds like your taking it to serious, I listen to ICP, actually grew up on the earlier stuff.

im not taking it too serious. listening to and liking the music is one thing, being a juggalo is another

I never liked ICP. I always thought they had no talent, couldnt stand the music.
BUT with that being said, most of my friends are Juggalos/Juggalettes, even some family members.
So more power to you on that.

faaaaq have you ever make it out to their outdoor festivals (annual juggalos meet maybe?) that they have?
Heard its one hell of a party.

Zach

quote Originally posted by DCRFiero1: I never liked ICP. I always thought they had no talent, couldnt stand the music. BUT with that being said, most of my friends are Juggalos/Juggalettes, even some family members. So more power to you on that. faaaaq have you ever make it out to their outdoor festivals (annual juggalos meet maybe?) that they have? Heard its one hell of a party. Zach

havent had transportation or cash in the past, but im going to The Gathering of the Juggalos this year. taking my Fiero, and by then ill have the 4.9 and close to 160db sound system lol, hopefully the fam has some nice things to say about it

I used to love their music, the more recent lo's have pretty much ruined the events and things. Too immature, too much drugs, yadda yadda. I still really like Twiztid, but I can't really call myself a Juggalo or anything, more just a casual fan.

quote Originally posted by N3M3S1S: I used to love their music, the more recent lo's have pretty much ruined the events and things. Too immature, too much drugs, yadda yadda. I still really like Twiztid, but I can't really call myself a Juggalo or anything, more just a casual fan.

yea, the new breed is pretty bad...even going as far as to lace the water in squirt guns with lsd and shoot random passerbys....

quote Originally posted by faaaaq: yea, the new breed is pretty bad...even going as far as to lace the water in squirt guns with lsd and shoot random passerbys....

Not cool at all. I remember in high school it really felt like a second family, everything was about being relaxed, listening to the music, and just having a good ass time(best parties ever). Now half of them I meet I want to punch in the mouth.

quote Originally posted by N3M3S1S: Not cool at all. I remember in high school it really felt like a second family, everything was about being relaxed, listening to the music, and just having a good ass time(best parties ever). Now half of them I meet I want to punch in the mouth.

exactly. when i say "REAL juggalos" im referring to people who live like oldschool juggalos. when i se someone walk down the road wearing an ICP shirt or something, my first thought is always "god i wanna beat his a$$..." just because 9 times outta 10, hes gunna be one of the new breed. now, ive only been Down for like 6 years, but i learned from real juggalos, and i dont do drugs anyways.


the lsd sh*t makes me kinda nervous about going to The Gathering, but im willing to take the risk

i'm sure this will be taken the wrong way but...

i'm pretty sure that people hate "jugalos" because for the most part they are low life drug addicts that will shoot you if you say something bad about their favorite band. i know that you've been saying "that's the posers" but if over half of "jugalos" are the poser, loser, misfit dumbf**ks...then aren't they the real "jugalo"?? majority rules right?

maybe this is just rumors i have heard but haven't there been serious death threats from members of these bands?? personally i don't think that's the type of person that i would idolize and live by. ask tupac and biggy how well that $hit worked for them.

i'm sure your a good guy but make sure you've got your real "family" set straight. sorry if i offended you but its my freedom and i'm gonna use it while i still have it...just my $.02

quote Originally posted by fastblack: i'm sure this will be taken the wrong way but... i'm pretty sure that people hate "jugalos" because for the most part they are low life drug addicts that will shoot you if you say something bad about their favorite band. i know that you've been saying "that's the posers" but if over half of "jugalos" are the poser, loser, misfit dumbf**ks...then aren't they the real "jugalo"?? majority rules right? maybe this is just rumors i have heard but haven't there been serious death threats from members of these bands?? personally i don't think that's the type of person that i would idolize and live by. ask tupac and biggy how well that $hit worked for them. i'm sure your a good guy but make sure you've got your real "family" set straight. sorry if i offended you but its my freedom and i'm gonna use it while i still have it...just my $.02

yea, im the kind of person you cant offend lol. but no, majority doesnt rule. being a juggalo has a set meaning. if you dont fit that image, you arent a real juggalo. and as best as my knowledge can tell, there havent been SERIOUS deat hthreats from ICP. hell, eminem confronted ICP and threatened to shoot them (with an unloaded gun), but as best i can tell ICP has never made a REAL death threat. and if they have, unless it was unwarranted, there is nothig wrong with that. other than the death threat bit and the majority rules part, you are 100% correct.


sorry for the spelling and whatnot, i cant see my keyboard lol :P

quote Originally posted by faaaaq: ...ICP has never made a REAL death threat. and if they have, unless it was unwarranted, there is nothig wrong with that...

seriously??

Faaaq...how old are you, if I may ask?

quote Originally posted by fastblack: seriously??

yes seriously. if you have a good reason, what is wrong with giving a death threat? first, even if you are serious, chances are you would never follow thru with it, and second, if you have a good reason then obviously they deserve it. i myself have made a serious death threat or two. you cant argue with (or accept) a SERIOUS death threat unless you know the circumstances behind it.
im 19.

quote Originally posted by faaaaq: yes seriously. if you have a good reason, what is wrong with giving a death threat? first, even if you are serious, chances are you would never follow thru with it, and second, if you have a good reason then obviously they deserve it. i myself have made a serious death threat or two. you cant argue with (or accept) a SERIOUS death threat unless you know the circumstances behind it. im 19.

for one thing its illegal. no offense in any way, actually i'm trying to help in a weird way. you need to look at yourself and what you're saying and maybe re-evaluate some things in your life. taking another person's life is never right...even if they deserved it.

quote Originally posted by fastblack: for one thing its illegal. no offense in any way, actually i'm trying to help in a weird way. you need to look at yourself and what you're saying and maybe re-evaluate some things in your life. taking another person's life is never right...even if they deserved it.

unless they hurt a fiero

quote Originally posted by fastblack: for one thing its illegal. no offense in any way, actually i'm trying to help in a weird way. you need to look at yourself and what you're saying and maybe re-evaluate some things in your life. taking another person's life is never right...even if they deserved it.

so says the law and your morals (and common morals as well). and like i said in the original post, as long as you are polite about it and not an a$$, you can say anything you want lol. chances are id never kill anyone, but if someone ever raped my sister, or her kid, or my kid when i have one, unless the law punished them adequately, i would indeed hunt them down. there are other situations as well. im not justifying murder, and i know what is "right" and what is "wrong," my morals are just unique. living is not a privileged, its something you earn over time. rapists, pedos, murderers without just cause, etc, lose that right.