Dr. Earl Bradley, a pediatrician, has been arrested for child molestation & is being held in lieu of $2.9 million bail. Bradley, 56, is charged with 471 separate crimes, including the molestation of more than 100 young patients. He also had in his possesion 13 hours of video that prosecutors say he took to document his alleged crimes. If convicted, he could become one of the most notorious pedophiles in the nation's history.

The disturbing images of Bradley's alleged assaults were captured by cameras he set up in various rooms, which he decorated with Disney characters and stockpiled with toys and miniature carnival rides. Bradley spent much of his time and money on toys and amusement items that cluttered his offices.

Prosecutors said some of Bradley's victims were sexually assaulted after he separated them from his parents during office visits. Others had unnecessary "exams" caught on videotape in the presence of their unsuspecting parents.
Bradley was discribed by many parents & coworkers as a quiet, disheveled doctor who loved children, but wasn't much of a businessman.

To me, his picture seems to set off alarms:



I hope the legal system can find a way to remove this man from the rest of humanity, forever.
I'm not even sure I can wish that God have mercy on his soul.

Can someone who understands religion better then I do give me some insight as to how I am supposed to forgive this man?
What does the bible say about how we, as individuals, and a community, are supposed to deal with this kind of monster?

Are we really supposed to forgive him?

Actually, forgiveness is a Cristian concept......

for those of us who aint Christian, not forgiving is a very easy thing to do.........

I think we need to resurect some old midevil concepts.....gut this a-hole alive and use his corpse as a latrine. and make DAMN sure he knows its gonna happen and how much it is gonna hurt.

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and the hell with the legal system....sometimes the right thing to do is just get the job done, and screw the cops and lawyers and judges whos toes get stepped on.

this is a lynch mob case if I ever saw one !!!!

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There is no forgiveness for a piece of **** like this I won't even call "it" a human, I am under the firm belief that some people are just "wired" wrong and need to be removed from the luxury of those among us that breathe....

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quote which he decorated with Disney characters and stockpiled with toys and miniature carnival rides.

The Disney characters, and toys I can understand, he was after all a Pediatrician. It's the Carnival rides I don't get, it there some sort of rule saying that pedophiles have to have carnival rides?

I'm not blaming the parents, they trusted a doctor, but how did he get away with this for so long? I mean, they were right in front of the parents.

I'm not sure how I would handle this as a parent, I really can't say.

Brad

Two things...
As a citizen of the US I recognize that, as a practical matter, this person will never again be free to hurt another child (or to do much of anything else.)
This includes a possible "insanity" defense. His freedom just ain't gonna happen, no matter what.

As a Christian I believe that God will deal with him appropriately. Not my place.

Having said all that, it wouldn't hurt my feelings any if they put him in general population.

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: The Disney characters, and toys I can understand, he was after all a Pediatrician. It's the Carnival rides I don't get, it there some sort of rule saying that pedophiles have to have carnival rides? I'm not blaming the parents, they trusted a doctor, but how did he get away with this for so long? I mean, they were right in front of the parents. I'm not sure how I would handle this as a parent, I really can't say. Brad

LMAO...depends man.... 1 day before yer daughters 18th b-day, I aint going near it---one day after----and hell yea her pants are on the floor !!!!!!!!!!

<just trying to put a little humor into whats turning into a nasty thread>

quote Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: LMAO...depends man.... 1 day before yer daughters 18th b-day, I aint going near it---one day after----and hell yea her pants are on the floor !!!!!!!!!! <just trying to put a little humor into whats turning into a nasty thread>

I was really hoping to click on a thread about Cookie Monster. It does need some lightening up, I can see the discussion getting very heated in this one.

Personally I am all for letting A: A jury decide whether he is guilty or not B: Let the courts decide what to do with him.
It stinks, I know a lot of us want blood from this guy, but the system is in place for a reason, and like it or not we have to rely on that.

Brad

quote Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: LMAO...depends man.... 1 day before yer daughters 18th b-day, I aint going near it---one day after----and hell yea her pants are on the floor !!!!!!!!!! <just trying to put a little humor into whats turning into a nasty thread>

? Turning into a nasty thread?

Do you have kids? siblings? relatives?

quote Originally posted by Raydar: As a Christian I believe that God will deal with him appropriately. Not my place.

But as a Christian, is it part of that belief that you have to forgive him?
Or at least try to forgive him?

I'm not sure I am that strong in any belief.

I wonder if both Love & Hate were to be measured to their maximum potental, which would have the most strength & energy, Love or Hate?
Or are they, being exact polar opposites by their very nature, be exactly equal, down to the nth power?
It's how you use them that gives them thier power?

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: but the system is in place for a reason, and like it or not we have to rely on that. Brad

No we don't......

quote Originally posted by Raydar: As a Christian I believe that God will deal with him appropriately. Not my place.

I'm agnostic. Since I feel no need to forgive the SOB, can *I* hang him?

Is that the way he usually looked? Would you, as a parent, allow your kid anywhere NEAR him?
Desheveled and Doctor don't go well together. Doctor and terrible handwriting, maybe...
Very sad story. Hopefully, most of those kids don't know he did anything. What a sick sick person.

quote Originally posted by DRA: No we don't......

In this part of it. Even though the evidence is pretty solid, and it's a 99.99999999% chance that this guy is guilty, he still gets his day in court. That's what I was talking about. Forming a lynch mob and going after a guy would be wrong on our part. Even in the worst cases we have to keep our heads, and let our court system sort these things out. If we do it the other way, where we just automatically assume someone is guilty, we end up with innocent people dead, or worse (I think living marked as a pedophile would be worse than death).

I'm not sticking up for him at all, I am just sticking up for our rights.

Brad

quote Originally posted by fierobear: I'm agnostic. Since I feel no need to forgive the SOB, can *I* hang him?

YES

Headshot!

quote Originally posted by InTheLead: Headshot!

Yeah, I was going to say "shoot him", but Stimpy would troll me for another 2 years over it.

quote Originally posted by FieroRumor: Is that the way he usually looked? Would you, as a parent, allow your kid anywhere NEAR him? Desheveled and Doctor don't go well together. Doctor and terrible handwriting, maybe... Very sad story. Hopefully, most of those kids don't know he did anything. What a sick sick person.

My wife has a doctor, the guy is a pure genius, and I am not kidding. He probably has a cure for cancer rattling around in his brain somewhere. When I first met him I thought someone was playing a joke on me, I even looked for the hidden cameras. The guy was wearing blue jeans, old worn out sneakers, a polo style shirt that went out of style in the 80's, and was probably washed to death, and looked like he just got out of bed. He was clean, just didn't care how he looked. If you saw him in public you may think he is a local crazy man.

He has done more for my wife's neuropathy than any of her specialists in the last 11 years, and he has only been her doctor for a year, I would trust him, zero people skills though lol, I guess he just don't have room for that stuff.

Brad

I should add, that is only one doctor out of perhaps hundreds over the years. The rest are professional, and neat.

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: In this part of it. Even though the evidence is pretty solid, and it's a 99.99999999% chance that this guy is guilty, he still gets his day in court. That's what I was talking about. Forming a lynch mob and going after a guy would be wrong on our part. Even in the worst cases we have to keep our heads, and let our court system sort these things out. If we do it the other way, where we just automatically assume someone is guilty, we end up with innocent people dead, or worse (I think living marked as a pedophile would be worse than death). I'm not sticking up for him at all, I am just sticking up for our rights. Brad

There is also the chance he will get off on some obscure technicality or be found not guilty by a jury even if he is guilty, there is also a chance he can be found guilty and actually be innocent. In theory our justice system is wonderful, but due to corrupt judges, ignorant or disinterested jurists, a set of laws that no one can really comprehend, and where do we start on the lawyers, the system has become a joke.

If it's obvious someone has done something as awful as this guy, it's a waste of time, taxpayer money, more pain and suffering for family and surviving victims, need I go on? The guy that tried to blow up the plane around Christmas should have been interrogated using whatever means needed and executed. You walk into a public place and gun down folks, everyone sees it and knows who it was, what is the point in a trial?

If there is reasonable doubt, fine, if not let the hammer fall.

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: In this part of it. Even though the evidence is pretty solid, and it's a 99.99999999% chance that this guy is guilty, he still gets his day in court. That's what I was talking about. Forming a lynch mob and going after a guy would be wrong on our part. Even in the worst cases we have to keep our heads, and let our court system sort these things out. If we do it the other way, where we just automatically assume someone is guilty, we end up with innocent people dead, or worse (I think living marked as a pedophile would be worse than death). I'm not sticking up for him at all, I am just sticking up for our rights. Brad

I have, and always will, agree with that.
I am the Number 1 fan of "Rule of Law".

And I myself have been known to break a law or two.
Maybe that's why I am a fan of Rule of Law.
I don't want some of the members here getting together to draw & quarter me over the possability that my copy of Windows 7 MAY be seen has having "questionable" origins (i.e an actual reciept of purchase).

Jail sounds WAY better then having to listen to a bunch of guys with pitchforks standing arguing over who's Fiero I get to get drug behind!

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quote Originally posted by Boondawg: I have, and always will, agree with that. I am the Number 1 fan of "Rule of Law". And I myself have been known to break a law or two. Maybe that's why I am a fan of Rule of Law. I don't want some of the members here getting together to draw & quarter me over the possability that my copy of Windows 7 MAY be seen has having "questionable" origins (i.e an actual reciept of purchase).

Don't be silly, we wouldn't have you drawn and quartered, we'd just have thief tattooed on your forehead. You could always wear a hat or do a comb over.

quote Originally posted by DRA: Don't be silly, we wouldn't have you drawn and quartered, we'd just have thief tattooed on your forehead. You could always wear a hat or do a comb over.

I added a line to make it more real!

quote Originally posted by fierobear: I'm agnostic. Since I feel no need to forgive the SOB, can *I* hang him?

Only if you supply video.

I said that *I* wasn't going to judge him.
I didn't say that I gave much of a damn what other people did. Hence the "general population" comment.

quote Originally posted by DRA: ? Turning into a nasty thread? kids?

Yup !!!...see my above comments aboput gutted alive and latrines...

and just for the record..........Mercy is also a Christian concept (or the name of a hospital)...........and this POS deserves niether.

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quote Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: Yup !!!...see my above comments aboput gutted alive and latrines... and just for the record..........Mercy is also a Cristian concept (or the name of a hospital)...........and this POS deserves niether.

There is no way this thread could turn any uglier than the "suspect" and the alleged crimes which are the subject of this thread. It started out ugly.

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quote Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: ummmmm............with video-tape proof---he aint no suspect. He is guilty---and taped it himself.

Sarcasm can be a wicked mistress, notice I put the word suspect in parenthesis for the benefit of those who feel he is not guilty until a jury of his peers have convicted him of the "alleged" crime.

I say if they can round up a jury of his peers they should all be shot!

Hey Boonie,

Here's a story about a mother who tried to drown her two children, but because of the actions of onlookers, they were both saved:

http://www.foxnews.com/stor...html?test=latestnews

Just a little bit of positive I suppose...

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2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Hey Boonie, Here's a story about a mother who tried to drown her two children, but because of the actions of onlookers, they were both saved: http://www.foxnews.com/stor...html?test=latestnews Just a little bit of positive I suppose...

And then the other side of stuff like that in todays news:

Authorities find baby and toddler bound, gagged

RIVERSIDE, Calif. - Authorities say a baby and a toddler have found bound, gagged and left on a bedroom floor in Southern California, and the childrens' father is being investigated for attempted murder and torture in the case.

Riverside County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Brown says deputies responded to the home in the Indian Hills area Friday on a report of a family disturbance.

Brown says the two girls, ages 1 1/2 and 18 weeks, also had visible injuries on their faces and heads.

Their father, 23-year-old Jeremiah Scott, fled before deputies arrived but was later found in the neighborhood and arrested.

Brown says the babies' injuries did not appear to be life threatening and they were transported to a hospital for treatment.

Scott is being held on $1 million bail.

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quote Originally posted by twofatguys: My wife has a doctor, the guy is a pure genius, and I am not kidding. He probably has a cure for cancer rattling around in his brain somewhere. When I first met him I thought someone was playing a joke on me, I even looked for the hidden cameras. The guy was wearing blue jeans, old worn out sneakers, a polo style shirt that went out of style in the 80's, and was probably washed to death, and looked like he just got out of bed. He was clean, just didn't care how he looked. If you saw him in public you may think he is a local crazy man. He has done more for my wife's neuropathy than any of her specialists in the last 11 years, and he has only been her doctor for a year, I would trust him, zero people skills though lol, I guess he just don't have room for that stuff. Brad I should add, that is only one doctor out of perhaps hundreds over the years. The rest are professional, and neat.

agreed, Brad.......I know a guy at McMaster Univ that has one eye going left, one staring ant the sky...............and can explain magnetic flux fields like..............he just *KNOWS*...if ya know what I mean..........
I was never that smart...I learned to fly things and fix things just beacuase living as a hunterer-garther wasnt an option.

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quote Originally posted by Raydar: Only if you supply video. I said that *I* wasn't going to judge him. I didn't say that I gave much of a damn what other people did. Hence the "general population" comment.

NP, I can deal with that.

quote Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: agreed, Brad.......I know a guy at McMaster Univ that has one eye going left, one staring ant the sky...............and can explain magnetic flux fields like..............he just *KNOWS*...if ya know what I mean..........

You know the STRANGEST people.
Wonder why that is?

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: And then the other side of stuff like that in todays news: Authorities find baby and toddler bound, gagged RIVERSIDE, Calif. - Authorities say a baby and a toddler have found bound, gagged and left on a bedroom floor in Southern California, and the childrens' father is being investigated for attempted murder and torture in the case. Riverside County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Brown says deputies responded to the home in the Indian Hills area Friday on a report of a family disturbance. Brown says the two girls, ages 1 1/2 and 18 weeks, also had visible injuries on their faces and heads. Their father, 23-year-old Jeremiah Scott, fled before deputies arrived but was later found in the neighborhood and arrested. Brown says the babies' injuries did not appear to be life threatening and they were transported to a hospital for treatment. Scott is being held on $1 million bail.

Thats where I grew up, went to high school and where my 35th reunion is going to be, Indian Hills, Riverside CA. The worst part is what a class mate of mine Greg Coats did to his friends mother and his own mother just after we left HS.

Many of you may remember my feelings about pet-a-childs from an earlier thread regarding a forum member. I think that with 471 counts against the piece of shat, he is at least guilty of one of those counts, and I also say let him out into general pop.

So as not to increase my negative ratings, like what happened in that past thread , I will not comment the way that I really feel. But, for those of you that sent PMs threatening to kick my teeth in, punch my lights out, or kick my a$$ at the next show that you see me at, remember... 1, I am NOT a pedaphile. 2, by sending those PMs to me, lets me know that you guys are sick in the head to defend that dirtball, and 3, I would royally school you in the art of fighting. I did not grow up being a "kitty".

quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: But, for those of you that sent PMs threatening to kick my teeth in, punch my lights out, or kick my a$$ at the next show that you see me at,

Is that true?

P.S. How do you like Spokane?
Nice place to live?
Work?

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From the Christian perspective, don't confuse 'forgiveness' with accountability and punishment. Forgiveness is: as if he'd never committed the crime. Accountability is: he is responsible for committing the acts. Punishment is: he suffers the consequences of his actions.

God forgives, and expects us to do the same. Though He forgives, He does NOT ignore the act. He allows the act to reveal its own punishment in many cases. In others He takes an active part.

Sadly it is true. But, I am not one to really care what others think of me. I took some flack for bashing on the convicted pedaphile, but like me, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Life would be very boreing if only my opinion counted.

Spokane...Been here for about 4 years from Detroit. I love Spokane. We have not been tortured by the recession like most of America. I do remodeling, and if it was not for word of mouth, there would be no food for our mouths. As far as a place to live, I feel that there is no better.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: And then the other side of stuff like that in todays news: Authorities find baby and toddler bound, gagged RIVERSIDE, Calif. - Authorities say a baby and a toddler have found bound, gagged and left on a bedroom floor in Southern California, and the childrens' father is being investigated for attempted murder and torture in the case. Riverside County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Brown says deputies responded to the home in the Indian Hills area Friday on a report of a family disturbance. Brown says the two girls, ages 1 1/2 and 18 weeks, also had visible injuries on their faces and heads. Their father, 23-year-old Jeremiah Scott, fled before deputies arrived but was later found in the neighborhood and arrested. Brown says the babies' injuries did not appear to be life threatening and they were transported to a hospital for treatment. Scott is being held on $1 million bail.

I know... it's a DAILY occurance now...

At least hose kids survived too.... I just don't get it?!

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2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Yeah, I was going to say "shoot him", but Stimpy would troll me for another 2 years over it.

You have no class,if Stimpy defended himself he is trolling,if he doesn't defend himself your remark will stand.
As far as pedophiles go,I have 5 kids(all grown now),and if when they were young and a pedophile messed with them,I would've been the one going on trial.

God can forgive him, I don't have to. God made me who I am and I am grateful for all he has done for me. With all of that I just cant see feeling hate for this guy as wrong.

Not only is this guy praying on the Innocent he is using a profession that we should, no need to trust with our lives and the lives of our loved ones. He will have his own corner of hell where he will have to live with what he has done. Then he will die and God will take care of him until then I hope he lives a long long life locked in a box where he can think about what he has done. I hope those around him shun him and remind him of the depth of his transgressions. I hope that on his 99th birthday as he gets his 99000th beating he remembers every one of his victims.

I hope that the children that he has molested will be able to put this behind them and live a normal life despite what this ass hole has done.

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quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: He will have his own corner of hell where he will have to live with what he has done. Then he will die and God will take care of him until then I hope he lives a long long life locked in a box where he can think about what he has done. I hope those around him shun him and remind him of the depth of his transgressions. I hope that on his 99th birthday as he gets his 99000th beating he remembers every one of his victims.

There are times when I can't really get a good solid feel for where you stand on certain things.
This ain't one of those times.