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Boston brewer pushes new limits on extreme beer by Pyrthian
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Boston brewer pushes new limits on extreme beer
BOSTON – It is banned in 13 states and sure doesn't come in a six-pack.

The maker of Samuel Adams beer has released an updated version of its biennial beer Utopias — now the highest alcohol content beer on the market. At 27 percent alcohol by volume and $150 a bottle, the limited release of the brandy-colored Utopias comes as more brewers take advantage of improvements in science to boost potency and enhance taste.

"Just part of trying to push the envelope," said Jim Koch, founder and owner of the Boston Beer Co. the maker of Sam Adams. "I'm pushing it beyond what the laws of these 13 states ever contemplated when they passed those laws decades ago."

Since the 1990s, craft brewers like the Boston Beer Co. and the Delaware-based Dogfish Head have produced a number of "extreme beers" that challenge old notions of beer and the decades-old laws that have governed them.

By law, these specialty drinks still are classified as beer when they are based on fermented grain. And despite the hefty prices of the high-scale beer, brewers still have to pay the required nickel deposit on bottles.

Paul Gatza, director of the national Brewers Association based in Boulder, Colo., said new yeast research allowed brewers to experiment with the emerging science that pushed the traditional cap of 14 percent alcohol by volume for beer.

"As a result, these new beers, like Utopias, balance sweetness, higher alcohol content and more ingredients," Gatza said.

A few states also have moved to adapt their laws to allow for the emerging craft brew market. For example, Alabama and West Virginia recently passed laws to allow higher alcohol content in beer. Lawmakers in Iowa and Mississippi are considering similar legislation.

Gatza said consumers are also pushing for the changes.

That's what sparked a brew battle between the Boston Brewing Co. and Dogfish Head.

In 1993, Koch set a new bar by creating Triple Bock, a beverage with 17.5 percent alcohol by volume. In the early 2000s, Dogfish Head responded with beverages of their own that went to 22 percent.

But the latest Utopias alcohol volume gives Koch and Boston Beer Co. the clear title of having the strongest beer, said Sam Calagione, president and founder of Dogfish Head. "I must bow before him for Utopias," Calagione said. "I don't think we'll be brewing a beer that strong for a while."

Utopias has reached its unique strength through a 15-year aging process in barrels at the Boston Beer Co.'s brewery in Boston. It's aged and finished in wooden containers like Scotch whisky barrels and sherry casks. The drink's yeast strains are regularly used in making malts and champagne.

A quick sip unveils a cognac-like hit combined with vanilla, honey, and maple flavors.

The long production cycle is what limits its availability to once every two years. This holiday season, for example, Koch is only releasing 10,000 bottles with the suggested retail price of $150 apiece.

"It's like making 21-year-old Scotch," Koch said. "Yeah, you can make more. You just can't have it for 21 years."

The drink comes in a ceramic-and-copper bottle that resembles a tiny brew kettle. Thirteen states prohibit its sale because its alcohol content exceeds the legal limit for beer: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont and Washington.

Chuck Hurley, CEO of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said the group in general doesn't have a problem with extreme brands of beer like Utopias. However, he hopes the beverage's higher alcohol content is properly labeled and that it isn't marketed to minors.

"Right now, we're reserving judgment," Hurley said.

Koch said the Boston Beer Co. is presenting Utopias as an exclusive beer for sophisticated drinkers that should be consumed like champagne. He said it's not a beer for the weekend football game or for a regular dinner.

He would not speculate whether he would try to get more extreme with future brews, but noted that no one ever thought there would be an "insane brewer" who would be making such a strong Utopias.

"We'll see," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/...i_ge/us_extreme_beer
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:
Chuck Hurley, CEO of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, said the group in general doesn't have a problem with extreme brands of beer like Utopias. However, he hopes the beverage's higher alcohol content is properly labeled and that it isn't marketed to minors.

"Right now, we're reserving judgment," Hurley said.


As opposed to lower alcohol beers that are marketed to minors?
I don't need to reserve judgement. That's all I need to read to know Chuck Hurley is a moron.

It might be an interesting beer to try, but I've not found many beers over 10-12% that were still drinkable.
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At $150 a bottle, they can keep it.

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Originally posted by 2birds:

At $150 a bottle, they can keep it.



I have always wanted to try that stuff. I'm *not* a fan of beer, but this stuff sounds like it might be different. But, not 150 dollars different
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How would one go about ordering a bottle--or kettle or whatever it's called?
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Originally posted by maryjane:

How would one go about ordering a bottle--or kettle or whatever it's called?


I think you have to either preorder it from them directly, or its distributed to 'specialty' stores..
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2 yrs in advance? Heck--I'm old, I could be dead by then--and Janes new "Don" would get my $150 beer?
It's bad enough my dogs would probably take up with him--but my $150 beer too?
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A beer bottle is 12 oz, unless I missed that this is a larger bottle.
A wine bottle is 750 ml, roughly 24oz.
You can buy a chateau made and bottled first growth Bordeaux wine for that price.
Its only BEER, guys.
Now I love beer as much as the next guy, and I'm sure this is a fine one, but 'cmon.
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My uncle has actually had one of their past Utopia brews. He wasn't that impressed with it.
$150 is too pricey for something I might not enjoy!

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Originally posted by nmw75:

My uncle has actually had one of their past Utopia brews. He wasn't that impressed with it.
$150 is too pricey for something I might not enjoy!


Yeah, like none of us ever spent $150 on a girl we might not even get a goodnight kiss from...........

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:

A beer bottle is 12 oz, unless I missed that this is a larger bottle.
A wine bottle is 750 ml, roughly 24oz.
You can buy a chateau made and bottled first growth Bordeaux wine for that price.
Its only BEER, guys.
Now I love beer as much as the next guy, and I'm sure this is a fine one, but 'cmon.


Yes and no. It is beer in name, because of the way it is fermented. It is not beer in way you are saying it's just beer. This is not a can of Schlitz or PBR or some light beer to be guzzled. It is to be drank like a fine wine or liquor. Slowly and savored at the all the flavors in each drink.

I have been wanting to try one of these for years, but $150 is a bit steep, but people drop that on fine wine. maybe in 2 more years I will buy a bottle.

Edited to add: Here is how it is described on Wikipedia - The beer is considered by some to be more comparable to brandy, sherry, cognac or port than to other beers.

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Yeah, like none of us ever spent $150 on a girl we might not even get a goodnight kiss from...........


Well I know I haven't!

What kind of girls have you been dating?

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I heard about this a couple days ago, I am from WI ya know. It is not a 12 ounce bottle, I forget how big it is but is closer to a wine bottle then beer. And, as the article says, it is more of a coniac. The only reason it's called a beer is because of the process used to make it. And because Samuel Adams always likes to push the limits of beer. I'm not sure how much gets sold non local, but I know my dad is always looking for them (he is a home brewer).
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I've tasted it.

It tastes more like bourbon than beer.

If you like bourbon, spend a heckuva lot less money and buy a good bottle of bourbon.

If you like beer, spend a heckuva lot less and buy a crapload more beer in a flavor/style that you actually like.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Yeah, like none of us ever spent $150 on a girl we might not even get a goodnight kiss from...........


I haven't either, but even if I did, there's a chance for future return-on-investment. Doesn't work so well with a bottle of beer.

edit to add: These new yeast strains might be handy in the making of ethanol for fuel though, as one problem now is the very low percentage of alcohol produced.

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At $150 a bottle, they can keep it.



Seriously, that's just plain pompous.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

It's bad enough my dogs would probably take up with him--but my $150 beer too?
[sigh]


Probably? I hear they love him. "The Separator" is a Dogs Man. Fur sure.

In case your wondering, I'd look toward cliffw .

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Originally posted by 2birds:
At $150 a bottle, they can keep it.

Space Beer is only $113.00 a six pack.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

Yeah, like none of us ever spent $150 on a girl we might not even get a goodnight kiss from...........


Never spent that much on a first date.. You got some hi priced girls down there in Texas it seems.
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