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does a fan suck or blow? by 87antuzzi
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Report this Post09-04-2009 05:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
I'm kinda confused. It can't to both at the same time. Can it?
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Report this Post09-04-2009 05:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsDirect Link to This Post
Sucks in one side, blows out the other.

It's all about your perspective. Are you on the receiving side or the supplying side.

Has to do one to accomplish the other.

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Report this Post09-04-2009 05:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
Yea but how does it do both? I'm not talking perspective. I'm talking the mechanics of the fan. How does it suck then blow? (Please no "thats what she saids"
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Report this Post09-04-2009 05:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
The shape of the blade accelerates the air in one direction. This acceleration is felt as blowing on one side and sucking on the other.
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Report this Post09-04-2009 05:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
So does it suck or blow? It can't do both at the same time.
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

So does it suck or blow? It can't do both at the same time.


Why not? You can't have one without the other in that type of design. An airplane wing creates high pressure on one side, low pressure on the other. A vacuum cleaner creates high on one side (exhaust) and low on the other (intake). It does both.

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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

So does it suck or blow? It can't do both at the same time.


Then it would be a sucker. It’s moving air from one place to another, its directly affecting the air it’s moving by sucking it from one place to another. The blowing is a side effect of the air being displaced by the Sucked air
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

So does it suck or blow? It can't do both at the same time.


it can! one side sucks, and the other blows, so theres a continuous stream o f air going through the fan
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Report this Post09-04-2009 07:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/H...an_electric_fan_work

Q: How does an electric fan work?

A: An electric fan is an electric motor with a fan blade attached to the rotating shaft. As the motor spins, the fan blades rotate. Each blade is inclined a bit, and as the inclined plane of the blade moves through the air, it forces the air ahead of it forward. Each blade does this on a continous basis, and the result is a moving air stream. The fan is taking air (Sucking) from the area behind itself and blowing it out the front. The fan generates a movement of air, causeing the warm, less dense air to rise, and the cool, dense air to descend. Thus the coolness now in the air.

Its on a wiki so it must be true.
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

I'm kinda confused. It can't to both at the same time. Can it?


It has to do both at the same time. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. No, it isn't exciting, it just is.
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Reminds me of the thermos. Keeps hot things hot and cold things cold, but how does it know when to do which?

What an idiotic question...but funny

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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

So does it suck or blow? It can't do both at the same time.


It can't do one without the other.

A motor boat propeller moves water in front of the blades to produce thrust. A fan is producing thrust. Just like the boat propeller, the fan is moving air from one side to the other.

Would a fan work/blow in a vacuum? No.

Look at it this way, the fan blades are surrounded by air, the blades are moving air.

Ron

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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

So does it suck or blow? It can't do both at the same time.


It does do both.

Depends on thich way it is facing, if you are thinking about the item it is cooling.
Look at cars with electric radiator fans, if it is in front of the radiator it is blowing on it.
If it is on the engine side (or behind the radiator) it is sucking air from the radiator.

Either way, say you removed the radiator entirely. It is actually doing both.

Or look at a ceiling fan, if it its blowing air down, it is sucking it from the ceiling area.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


Then it would be a sucker. It’s moving air from one place to another, its directly affecting the air it’s moving by sucking it from one place to another. The blowing is a side effect of the air being displaced by the Sucked air


No, it's a blower. The sucking is a side effect of the air replacing that being forced by the blower.
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A fan sucks if its a Steelers fan. lol
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Originally posted by Patrick's Dad:


No, it's a blower. The sucking is a side effect of the air replacing that being forced by the blower.


Why do I feel like a conveyor is going to be introduced into this query?

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does a fan suck or blow? Yep!
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Originally posted by blackrams:


Why do I feel like a conveyor is going to be introduced into this query?

Ron


It won't be. But asking a question such as "Does a fan suck or blow" is akin to asking whether a lamp is giving off light or sucking dark...
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It sucks before it blows.
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A fan that doesn't blow, sucks !
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It depends on which side of the radiator it is. In a Fiero it is behind the radiator, so it is a puller or sucking fan. It pulls air through the radiator. If it where in front, it would be called a pusher, because it would have to push air through the radiator.
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Originally posted by avengador1:

It depends on which side of the radiator it is. In a Fiero it is behind the radiator, so it is a puller or sucking fan.


Hey, are you saying my car sucks?

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Yes, all Fieros suck. You can quote me on that. LOL

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depends. is it on or off?

but, I am gonna agree with "it blows", and the "suck" is a side effect of the vacuum left behind by the "blown" air
and, to expand on this - think "propellor" or even a helicopter rotor.
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this reminds me of the airplane on a conveyor thing...
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What if we added Champion spark plugs?

I'm kidding!
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Neither, it moves air from one sid of itself to the other.
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In physics terms, the fan creates a directional force that acts upon the air. In the physics math, the concepts of "sucking" and "blowing" are basically irrelevant. It's a net force acting in a certain direction.
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

Yea but how does it do both? I'm not talking perspective. I'm talking the mechanics of the fan. How does it suck then blow? (Please no "thats what she saids"



Well, the flat part of the fan pushes (displaces) air away from it (the pushing part). The way pressure in our atmosphere works... the void caused by the displaced air gets replaced by more air (the sucking part).

I'm sure someone will get all nerdy and get upset and say that I'm not using scientific enough terms, at which point they'll talk about their engineering degree they got in the 70s and how they saved the world with their vast understanding of flow dymanics or whatever... but that's basically the gist of it.


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A fan sucks and blows. The design of the blades pulls air from on side and slightly compresses it (or higly compresses it depending on the design, number of blades, number of stages, and purpose. The New GE CF6-6 Turbo fan engine has two stages of fans on it that comprises a single stage fan, with one core booster stage, driven by a 5-stage LP (low pressure) turbine, supercharging a 16-stage HP (high pressure) axial compressor. Therefor it suck and blows as the video below shows with the vorticies seen while running and the thrust coming out the rear of the engine.



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Depends if its a Phillys fan or a Mets fan.
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Originally posted by johnt671:

Depends if its a Phillys fan or a Mets fan.


What are you saying? Philly's fans SUCK and Met's fans BLOW or vise versa? Or could it be both? What is the case during a solar eclipse? Does the time of year have anything to do with it? Maybe it has something to do with solar flares or the jet stream?

There's only one way to get an answer. Let's roll one and come to a conclusion!

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I'm sure someone will get all nerdy and get upset and say that I'm not using scientific enough terms, at which point they'll talk about their engineering degree they got in the 70s and how they saved the world with their vast understanding of flow dymanics or whatever...



Touchy, touchy, touchy ....
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Neither. It recirculates

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Originally posted by Synthesis:
It won't be. But asking a question such as "Does a fan suck or blow" is akin to asking whether a lamp is giving off light or sucking dark...


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Fans neither suck, nor blow. They spin.
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This fan sucks.
Retails 270. I sell it for 200 even.


It has extremely tight clearances providing the ability to build pressure with out much loss.
It can pull or suck making it useful for pulling air through a charcoal filter.
Retails 290. I sell for 225.


This fan blows
Retail 185 I sell for 140.

This does not have very tight clearance and just needs to move air through generally unobstructed tubing or lights like these.
Retail 105. I sell for 85.
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quote
Originally posted by BENGAL4:

A fan sucks if its a Steelers fan. lol


Yea, I too thought this was about being famous. I always found that they suck when the task is called blow but, that is what I do.
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Some of these fans have a reverse switch,
So the question is no longer "Does a fan suck or blow".
With a flip of the switch it becomes "Does a fan blow or suck"
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