Muscadine that isn't a muscadine. Muscadines have a darker tint to the outside, and always have 5 seeds each, These have 3 seeds in each one. A very sweet taste, with a not so tough outer skin and an unchewable seed sack. I found them growing wild down by my river and will try to germinate some of the seeds but I don't have a clue what they are. What is it?


They are about as big in diameter as a nickel.

Around here they are refered to as scuppernong.
Actually they are a veriaty of muscadine.

Trained and cultivated vines can produce fruit the size of a quarter.

Edit to add:
Makes great wine, retains the flavor well.
Try to get some root stock from the vine. You will have better luck than trying to grow from seed.
There is a small winery south of here in Perdido Alabama.This is their specialty. The wine is as good as the fresh grape. We stopped there last year fo tour the winery and the folks were very friendly. By the time we left we had a nice little buzz and the lady there was giving my wife and sister cuttings of variuos plants around their house next door and waving as we left the parking lot. big fun
I'll locate the website. They should be able to tell you anything you need to know.

http://www.perdidovineyards.com/index.html

[This message has been edited by Wolfhound (edited 08-23-2009).]

Hybrid?

Steve

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Here is a good short read on the muscadine.

http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/muscadinegrape.html

quote Originally posted by Wolfhound: Around here they are refered to as scuppernong.

Tammy seconds this.

quote Originally posted by Raydar: Tammy seconds this.

I third it. My favorite wine is from Duplin vineyards. They make only muscadine wine and one of their varieties is scuppernog. Not quite as sweet as muscadines, but from that family and a little smaller. Time to build a still Don.

Jim

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You don't make wine with a still.

Thanks Wolfhound and the rest of you as well. Scuupernong--I've heard people talk about them but never actually saw any till today.

These are much sweeter than any muscadine I've ever tried, tho their texture does make it a bit hard to handle. Having to spit that gob of a seed sack out is pretty disgusting here at the house, but not a problem out in the field.

My neighbor told me tonite, he has some he planted from seed and they do pretty well--plus they will grow on a trellis instead of heading up the nearest tree like a muscadine. I hate that part of muscadines--you're on the ground, and the muscadines are 50-75 ft up in a big tree.

How would you root these things from cuttings? I've rooted a lot of rose bush cuttings, but never delved into vineyard stuff before.

Here's instructions for a couple of methods of propagation.

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/mus...ating_muscadines.pdf

quote Originally posted by maryjane: You don't make wine with a still.

I couldn't think of (still can't) the method of making wine, but saying "still" did give the mental picture of what I was trying to convey. You need to make your own wine. Of course you may not have the patience, or time, to let it age properly.

Jim

quote Originally posted by jimbolaya: I couldn't think of (still can't) the method of making wine, but saying "still" did give the mental picture of what I was trying to convey. You need to make your own wine. Of course you may not have the patience, or time, to let it age properly. Jim

Well, if I make any, and die before it's aged properly, I'll make sure Jane sends you all some (wine) when it IS aged properly.

quote Originally posted by jimbolaya: I couldn't think of (still can't) the method of making wine, but saying "still" did give the mental picture of what I was trying to convey. You need to make your own wine. Of course you may not have the patience, or time, to let it age properly. Jim

All I'm gonna say is think women with big feet stomping around in a horse trough. drain off the juices, add some magic stuff and let ferment. Whalla, wine.

Ron

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Well, if I make any, and die before it's aged properly, I'll make sure Jane sends you all some (wine) when it IS aged properly.

I'll be waiting.

Jim

quote Originally posted by jimbolaya: As long as they washhed those big feet and aren't wearing any socks. Jim

Oh, so now you're getting picky. I suppose you don't know how they flavor wine either.

Ron

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Oh, so now you're getting picky. I suppose you don't know how they flavor wine either. Ron

EEEEEEWWWWWW!

Jim