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My first coffee roasting by Larryh86GT
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Today was my first attempt at roasting coffee beans. I enjoy good coffee and my brother bought 10 lbs of green Hawiiaan Kona coffee beans and had them sent to me. So I had to learn how to roast them. I used a Harbor Freight heat gun, a stainless steel bowl, the grill, and a whisk to do the roasting. Then they had to be cooled off rapidly using a strainer set in a cardboard box and using my shop vac to pull air through the beans. I think I just did a light roast rather than a dark one. The beans have to set a couple of days to "de-gas" and then I will try the coffee.


Starting with the green beans.


Stirring the beans nonstop while cooking them with the heat gun and grill.


Beans cooling in the strainer.


The finished product.

A lesson learned: Make a smaller batch of beans, this was more than my strainer could hold at once. And this is work. Holding the heat gun and stirring the beans for 20 minutes or so is hard on the arms.

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I'm curious why you roast the beans? Are they bad tasting unroasted? Poisonous like cashews? And what does a coffee-bean and cheese burrito taste like?
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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

I'm curious why you roast the beans? Are they bad tasting unroasted? Poisonous like cashews? And what does a coffee-bean and cheese burrito taste like?


Green coffee beans taste bitter and grassy (bad). I'm not sure what the burrito tastes like.
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Report this Post08-22-2009 11:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneDirect Link to This Post
Un-roasted green coffee beans? Don't even think about it-----nasty beyond belief.

I read one time, how to roast the beans with one of those old hot air popcorn poppers, but I can't remember what they said now.

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Report this Post08-23-2009 12:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Xuin39Send a Private Message to Xuin39Direct Link to This Post
Sounds fun, I have recently taken a liking to coffee. I blame a friend of mine who has shown me a few interesting ways of preparing it. She stayed in spain for a few months and picked up their method for brewing their coffee. I've never roasted the beans though.

I've found this to be my favorite: http://www.ineedcoffee.com/04/turkishcoffee/
Although I just use a small pot instead of that ibrik.
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Originally posted by Larryh86GT:

Today was my first attempt at roasting coffee beans. I enjoy good coffee and my brother bought 10 lbs of green Hawiiaan Kona coffee beans and had them sent to me.



For several years I was roasting almost 5000 lbs of coffee beans per hour!

 
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Then they had to be cooled off rapidly using a strainer set in a cardboard box and using my shop vac to pull air through the beans.



Try quenching your roasted beans with water immediately after you turn off the heat. That's how it's done with professional equipment. The air-cooling is used afterwards.

 
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The beans have to set a couple of days to "de-gas" and then I will try the coffee.



No no no.

Enjoy your coffee as soon as you can! The only reason coffee sits for a couple of days before being packaged is so the sealed containers don't bulge (or explode) from the roasted beans gassing off. There's no reason for you not to be grinding and brewing your coffee immediately after roasting it. That's when it's going to taste the best!

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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

I'm curious why you roast the beans? Are they bad tasting unroasted?



"Bad tasting" is putting it mildly. One unroasted coffee bean ground up in a pound of roasted coffee will ruin it. Very, very bitter.
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Originally posted by Patrick:


For several years I was roasting almost 5000 lbs of coffee beans per hour!

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Try quenching your roasted beans with water immediately after you turn off the heat. That's how it's done with professional equipment. The air-cooling is used afterwards.




No no no.

Enjoy your coffee as soon as you can! The only reason coffee sits for a couple of days before being packaged is so the sealed containers don't bulge (or explode) from the roasted beans gassing off. There's no reason for you not to be grinding and brewing your coffee immediately after roasting it. That's when it's going to taste the best!
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Tell us more Pat.
How do they get the different "blends". Classic roast--dark roast--breakfast blend-- and all the different blends ya see in a big coffee shop.
How do you know when they have roasted long enough?
Does anyone roast them on a screen, over open fire and incorporate the wood smoke aroma into the final product?. (I'm thinking mesquite)

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I am sitting here with my first cup of brewed coffee from the batch. Even though I think I under roasted the beans a little it still has a great taste. Not the cigar tasting dark roast flavor but definitely a fresher livelier flavor. It's difficult to describe but my first batch is a keeper.
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Originally posted by maryjane:


Tell us more Pat.
How do they get the different "blends". Classic roast--dark roast--breakfast blend-- and all the different blends ya see in a big coffee shop.
How do you know when they have roasted long enough?
Does anyone roast them on a screen, over open fire and incorporate the wood smoke aroma into the final product?. (I'm thinking mesquite)


I'm curious as well Pat.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Tell us more Pat.
How do they get the different "blends". Classic roast--dark roast--breakfast blend-- and all the different blends ya see in a big coffee shop.



Different "blends" of coffee are created by using beans from different parts of the world (Central America, South America, Africa, Hawaii, etc), and/or roasting them different lengths of time.

Soil conditions, elevation, rainfall, and hours of sunlight all contribute to the differences in coffee beans. There's also two basic different types of coffee beans - arabica and robusta. Robusta beans are higher in caffeine and aren't nearly as flavorful as arabica beans.

The longer a coffee bean roasts, the darker and oilier it gets as the oil comes from within. Roasted beans start off a light brown color and get progressively darker. Dark french roasted beans can be black. I hated doing dark french roasts as the smoke (from the oil burning off the beans) would be pouring out of the coffee roaster just before and during the quench cycle. You couldn't see or breathe!

 
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How do you know when they have roasted long enough?



The roasters were timed, but the timing had to be set manually depending on how dark the beans were to become. At the place I learned to roast coffee, the color was determined strictly by eye. You'd have to continually be sticking a scoop into the revolving drum of roasting coffee to eyeball the color. Different types of coffee would require a slightly different amount of roasting to achieve the desired color and taste. It was actually quite an art to do it correctly time and time again.

At the big roasting plant I eventually worked at, we had three large roasters all chugging away together. Each roaster would produce between 400-500 lbs of coffee every 15 minutes. I had to take a sample of beans to the lab from each roast to be finely ground and pressed and then measured with a light meter of some sort to determine actual color. If the color was a bit too light according to specs, the next roast would stay in for a little longer. If it was a bit too dark, the next roast would come out a little sooner. It was a helluva stressful job at the big plant, but it paid very well.

My favorite coffee of all the types I roasted? Although it wasn't the most expensive, I really liked lightly roasted Colombian Supremo beans. When done properly, they can be almost sweet. Roast them too dark though (like Starbuck's does), and they're ruined. The subtle sweetness is gone.

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No comments? I thought someone would at least disagree with my choice of beans.

 
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My favorite coffee of all the types I roasted? Although it wasn't the most expensive, I really liked lightly roasted Colombian Supremo beans...



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Why? I thought some of the best coffee's in the world came from Colombia, don't they?

I've been thinking about this post. What if a person were to take a big coffee can and make metal ends that would fit in something like a rotissiere, fill it maybe 1/4 full of coffee beans, put it over some heat source (I was thinking a gas burner), and turn it on. Wouldn't that simulate what you were doing in the factory and roast evenly? My only concern would be getting the quantity of beans correct because if you had too many, they wouldn't all roast evenly and if you had too few, it would be pretty wasteful.

You say you can cool them with a water quench. Cold water? Cool? Luke warm? Wouldn't that wash the surface oils off?

Then what, dry them with something like the OP used, a shop vac over a strainer? Then grind and seal? How much pressure does it make as it out gasses? Would it put a mason jar in jeopardy of bursting?

I can just imagine what it smells like as it's outgassing (and that's a good smell, I'm imagining. if not, don't mess with my fantasy. )

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No comments? I thought someone would at least disagree with my choice of beans.



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