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Kentucky Derby! by katatak
Started on: 05-02-2009 06:57 PM
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Report this Post05-02-2009 06:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakDirect Link to This Post
A horse from El Paso / Sunland Park Track, "Mine That Bird", just won the Kentucky Derby. What is so significant about this? This horse arrived in Kentucky in a Horse trailer after driving 1700 miles from El Paso to Kentucky. This horse cost $9500.00. He was running against some of the most expensive / fastest 3 year olds in the world. Some of the horse's he beat are worth Millions. Some of these horses were flown into Kentucky. He won in an impressive sprint race off the last turn and wound his way from dead last to pass them all on the inside rail and won by 6 3/4 lengths. A spectacular run and a stellar effort by his Jockey who one the "Oaks" on another horse yesterday. The horse went off at 50 to 1. Why am I so happy? I had 100.00 on him to win - just made $5000.00. Incredible.....

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Report this Post05-02-2009 07:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AusFieroClick Here to visit AusFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to AusFieroDirect Link to This Post
Hmm you put a $100 on a $9500 50 to 1 shot. So this uncle of yours in the mob, does he have any other hot tips
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Report this Post05-02-2009 07:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
So, what are his odds at the Preakness and Belmont?
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Report this Post05-02-2009 09:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhrancSend a Private Message to PhrancDirect Link to This Post
He wont do well in B-more but his shot at the Belmont is good.
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My father-in-law works at Kentucky Downs ( now Dueling Grounds). He is a retired jockey and now does the colors (racing silks). He keeps all of them in the correct order with the owners. He retired in 1990 from California and moved back here in 1992. He started in 1943 and rode till 1964 with nine years in between due to being in WWII and the Korean War. He did the silks from 1964-1990 when he retired. He retired and also rode with William Shoemaker. He has played cards and chess some of the legends of horse racing......Johnny Longden, Chis McCarron, Laffitt Pincay Jr., Eddy DeLahoussaye, and Gary Stevens.
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Report this Post05-02-2009 11:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
I watched this so called race today, wife’s a horse nut.

Something bothered me about it as I was watching it, see if anyone here noticed it to.

I ran track in high school, a hundred years ago, well it seems like it now.

I’ve watched a few races, cars, dogs, horses over the years. Bet on a few to.

And one thing I have noticed in any race on an oval track is that you keep to the inside rail. It makes the distance shorter for you.

You don’t have to run as fast as anyone else. But the inside rail is always crowded. You will be lucky if you can get there because of the crowd hugging the rail.

I just found it funny that in this particular race the inside rail was wide open. No one was there.

Kind of funny if you ask me.

The jockey on the winning horse was in his 50’s, kind of old for a jockey,

I kind of wonder if they didn’t just give it to him because of his age.

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Originally posted by AusFiero:

Hmm you put a $100 on a $9500 50 to 1 shot. So this uncle of yours in the mob, does he have any other hot tips


Well Uncle Guido says.........J/K. The only reason I bet on this horse was cause I had a few drinks and I bent to peer pressure...... Thanks to all those guys that were pressuring me to bet on the long shot..... They all were having a good laugh until the nag took off..... Then they had the nerve to try and get me to buy a round....

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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

I watched this so called race today, wife’s a horse nut.

Something bothered me about it as I was watching it, see if anyone here noticed it to.

I ran track in high school, a hundred years ago, well it seems like it now.

I’ve watched a few races, cars, dogs, horses over the years. Bet on a few to.

And one thing I have noticed in any race on an oval track is that you keep to the inside rail. It makes the distance shorter for you.

You don’t have to run as fast as anyone else. But the inside rail is always crowded. You will be lucky if you can get there because of the crowd hugging the rail.

I just found it funny that in this particular race the inside rail was wide open. No one was there.

Kind of funny if you ask me.

The jockey on the winning horse was in his 50’s, kind of old for a jockey,

I kind of wonder if they didn’t just give it to him because of his age.

Steve



I really don't think all them other Jockey's would throw the race for the old guy....But I do agree somewhat with you - it did look a little odd to have all that inside rail open.... And then the horse took off like it got a shot of Nitrous. Makes you think......

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Report this Post05-02-2009 11:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for banditbalzClick Here to visit banditbalz's HomePageSend a Private Message to banditbalzDirect Link to This Post
Congrats on the win Pat!

I am a technician for Scientific Games. I repair and maintain the wagering terminals at Horse Race Tracks. I was at Georgian Downs today during the Kentucky Derby, Of the thousand or so people there betting on the race, I never heard of a single winning ticket...
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Originally posted by katatak:


I really don't think all them other Jockey's would throw the race for the old guy....But I do agree somewhat with you - it did look a little odd to have all that inside rail open.... And then the horse took off like it got a shot of Nitrous. Makes you think......



It look like the horse shot off faster but he really didn't he did what is called a closing its when a horses saves it speed for the end after the speed horse have used theirs up and start slowing. The rest of the field went way to fast on the front begging to let a closer like Mine the Bird to pass at the top. And the rail is often open in the stretch as horses drift out. if you watch the over head you will see that Calvin did hug the rail around the turn except to pass a horse on the out side. He was also almost pinched on the rail.
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Report this Post05-03-2009 12:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sadie goadSend a Private Message to sadie goadDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by katatak:
I had 100.00 on him to win - just made $5000.00. Incredible.....


You gonna buy a few Fieros with that? :P

In all seriousness though, that was incredible. Brought tears to my eyes. Mine That Bird's worth more than $9500 now!

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Common denominator here: Calvin Borel. Won last year on Street Sense using the very same tactic. Its great listening to him talk too, he's probably as back-woods as you can get. Also, this races makes the point that it doesn't take big bucks to win the derby...
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Congrats from me also Pat, .
 
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I am a technician for Scientific Games. I repair and maintain the wagering terminals at Horse Race Tracks. I was at Georgian Downs today during the Kentucky Derby, Of the thousand or so people there betting on the race, I never heard of a single winning ticket...

Some schmook here in San Antonio won $250,000.00 at Alamo Downs on said terminals.
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So, what are his odds at the Preakness and Belmont?


I know a few trainers, they all said they would be surprised to even see him show up at the Preakness.
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I know a few trainers, they all said they would be surprised to even see him show up at the Preakness.


Hes on his way here now.
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Wednesday, April 16, 2008
Having fun with race horse names

If you want to skip to fun TB names, it's okay.

The naming of things
When I bought Harvey, his name was "Sody" -- which was bad enough, I thought, until I learned his Jockey Club racing name: Sotally Tober. I renamed him Harvey in honor of the Jimmy Stewart movie (it was on TV the night the owners decided to sell him to me). I chose the name Harvard for his show name, which in retrospect is a little pretentious. I like names that are simple: Theatrical, Wishful, Mystify, Sinatra, etc.
Later, when we started competing at recognized shows, Harv showed that he could hold his own -- at least at the lower levels -- with the big-moving warmbloods. I joked about changing his name to Why Pay More?

Racehorse names
Racehorse owners seem to care about names, too, and they like to get creative. Sometimes a bit too creative--like the British horse named Hoof Hearted (watch the video or say it fast a few times), or the 1983 American Thoroughbred named Wrecked Em. A recent lawsuit that made the news concerned poor taste in naming a thoroughbred. The Jockey Club oversees and regulates the naming of horses. It's a hard thing to follow all the rules and there is even a company, Thoroughbred Naming Specialists, that will do it for you. The list of rules is long, but a few of their verbotens are...

* Names consisting of more than 18 letters
* Initials such as C.O.D., F.O.B., etc.
* Names of persons unless written permission to use their name
* Names of "famous" people no longer living (w/o approval from JC)
* Names of "notorious" people.
* Names clearly having commercial significance, such as trade names.
* Copyrighted material
* Names that are suggestive or have a vulgar/obscene meaning, or are offensive.
Fun Thoroughbred names
You can browse or search active names at the JC Online Names Book. Here are a few names, anecdotes about racehorse names that I culled from the resources below...

* A Simpsons episode featured Bart and his adventures with a race horse named Duncan. While they were at the track you could hear the announcer calling a race, and one of the horses was named Chockfullodrugs.
* The shortest racehorse name in history is 'I' who raced in Argentina.

* At an Australian racetrack, three horses broke away from the pack at the half-way mark. The horses were Nobody, Nearest and Nothing. The announcer called, "Nobody is Nearest to Nothing," and the crowd erupted in laughter.

* Names are often derived from the parents.
o Yes It's True is by Is It True
o East of Reality by Proper Reality out of Far East
o The filly Shopaholic is out of A Girl Needs Cash
o Greenie is by Naturalism out of Ozone Friendly
o Braless is by Showoff II out of Snuggles
o Lip Gloss is out of Pucker Lips
o Youcan'tteachheart by Lionheart out of Backwoods Teacher
o Emotional Ending by End Sweep out of Gina's Temper
o Watamichoppedliver by Chopper Charlie out of Libber and Onions
o Blondeinamotel was sired by Bates Motel
o Reignforest by Forestry, out of Golden Princess
o No Slow Dancing by Slow Fuse out of Dancing Kate
o Nosupeforyou by Super Fortunate


* One name is a reference to the 18 character limit on a racing name: Eighteencharacters.

* A lot of them are pretty sexist:
o Oliver Klozov
o Sexy Walk
o Short Skirt Flirt
o Yes No Yes
o Date More Minors
o No Fat Chicks
o Bodacious Ta Ta's
o She can't say no
o OHBEEGEEWHYEN
o She's Easy
o Shefoggedmyglasses


* Drinking-related names abound, but here are a few:
o Anita Cocktail
o Plastered, out of a mare called Tipples
o Drink me pretty
o Sheikh'nnotstirred
o Alcohol-related
o and of course Sotally Tober.


* As a librarian, I love these:
o Sexy Librarian.
o Library Flirt
o Studious by Muttering out of Fast Study
o She's Well Red by an Illiterate son out of Red Journey
o In the Library out of United Scholar
o Search Engine
o Study Hard out of Learning Curve
o Sensible Shoes


* Some made it through the checks and balances for obscenity:
o Hardawn
o Golden Showers
o Cunning Stunt
o Pleasure Me
o Girls On Top
o Ménage Á Trois
o Strip Teaser
o Rhythm Method
o Jail Bait
o Tit'n Your Girdle
o Panty Raid


* Some are basically jokes, at the expense of the horse:
o No Speed No Feed out of No Pay No Hay
o Lags Behind
o Stake or Steak
o theotherwhitemeat
o Lame Jane
o Not a Role Model
o Hairball
o Badly Bred
o Check My Pulse out of Heart's Rythm
o Chicken Lips
o High Eena by High Brite out of Ameena
o Really Bad News
o Government Mule
o Spineless Jellyfish


* Others are just plain fun:
o Forty dollar bra
o Stud Finder
o Hairy Potter
o Hello Newman
o Thefunhasarrived
o Credit Limit by Spendabuck
o Shewhomustbeobeyed
o Chicks dig me
o Mean Butterbean
o Notsoquietamerican
o Redhotfillypepper
o Spookaroo
o Jello is Jiggling
o No Stinking Badges
o No Bettor Love
o Redundantredundant

* Some seem to have a story behind them...
o Reallyneededitback
o Dont Choke the Cat
o Reduced Sentence
o Acid Reflux
o Reptilian Smarts
o Semi True Story
o Full of Skittles
o Senior Discount
o Don't Buddy Me
o Cerebral Concrete
o Uhmm Alot
o But Your Honor

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Originally posted by 84fiero123:


I just found it funny that in this particular race the inside rail was wide open. No one was there.


Unlike a human foot-race, the most dangerous place on a horse track is next to the rail.

Many a horse and many a jockey have been really hurt there.

Many will run a width out from the rail, but their stratagey is to stay off the rail.

This jockey's stratagey is to ride the rail, as seen in this race and previous races.

Hell, the way that horse accelerated in the last 1/8 mile I don't think it would have mattered where he was running.

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Originally posted by Phranc:


Hes on his way here now.


He'll lose
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