Little brother's 2000 Mazda 626: The back driver's door is stuck closed. Pulling the outer door handle and inner door handle doesn't do anything, like it's locked. Pressing the eletric unlock on the driver's door unlocks all the other doors, but doesn't do anything to the back one, as if the door lock solenoid failed just in that door. The door panel can't come off with the door closed, since there are fasteners in the edges that aren't exposed unless the door is open.
[bro] I was A used car mechanic for 10+ years. Outer handle is probably broken and maybe child lock is on so inner wont work. The only way involves damaging inner door panel witch can be expensive. Gotta get to the latch and release it manually if your lucky.
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08:51 PM
NEPTUNE Member
Posts: 10199 From: Ticlaw FL, and some other places. Registered: Aug 2001
Probably the electric lock motor is gone, stuck in the lock position. If you can find a way to get the door panel off, disconnect the wire rod that goes from the motor to the actual door lock/latch. If not, maybe you can use a slim jim to release it. t'll take a bit of patience and a whole lot of fiddling. You can still use the manual lock until you get a new lock motor. They are a bet pricey at the local whore parts house,so try Ebay.
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Mar 6th, 2009
turboguy327 Member
Posts: 1692 From: Webster, NY USA Registered: Feb 2007
you could go to the junkyard and look at another one and see how the door locks are setup inside the door. Might make it easier when ya actually try it. Is there any way to get to the hinges when the front door is open?? Could unbolt it there if possible
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84fiero123 Member
Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
When you move the inside door lock on that door does it feel like the others when you move them?
If so it sounds like the latch is broke.
If not it sounds like the rods have come loose. No mater what you are going to have to destroy the door pad to get that door open. Head to a bone yard and try and find a new door pad, and the same one with the pad off so you can see what is inside. Bring a digital camera.
Steve
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When you move the inside door lock on that door does it feel like the others when you move them?
If so it sounds like the latch is broke.
If not it sounds like the rods have come loose. No mater what you are going to have to destroy the door pad to get that door open. Head to a bone yard and try and find a new door pad, and the same one with the pad off so you can see what is inside. Bring a digital camera.
Steve
Although time consuming, I think this idea is your best bet.
Jim
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cliffw Member
Posts: 37848 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by RWDPLZ: Pulling the outer door handle and inner door handle doesn't do anything, like it's locked. Pressing the eletric unlock on the driver's door unlocks all the other doors, but doesn't do anything to the back one, as if the door lock solenoid failed just in that door.
I have never seen a power lock which did not have a manual backup. None the less, to remove the door panel, I would think that you would have to remove the inner door handle first. Do that and have a look see. Also, ... roll down the window. At least take a peak through the window channel opening.
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Originally posted by 84fiero123: Head to a bone yard and try and find a new door pad, and the same one with the pad off so you can see what is inside. Bring a digital camera.
Or, , just take the door panel off the other side an have a look see.
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12:44 PM
Lambo nut Member
Posts: 4442 From: Centralia,Missouri. USA Registered: Sep 2003
Don't know if this will work in your case or not, but had this happen to a friends Firebird. Inner or outer handle seemed to do nothing to open the door. The door panel was not in the best of shape, so we did not worry about it. What i did was have some one pull on the outer handle, another pull the inner door handle, then I set in the rear floor board, and mule kicked the door, near the latch area. Opened on the second or third kick. In your case, maybe try, with a blanket folded up over the panel to protect it. If it doesn't work, yes, will probably have to tear off the panel. In some rare cases, you might be able to get it off with out tearing up too much. Good luck.
Kevin
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84fiero123 Member
Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
After thinking about this a little more, it sounds like the rods that go from the handles, inside and out are loose or the mechanism is broken. Most of these are covered so that you can’t just push a slim jim down on them.
If you can get the door pad off take a look at the release on the door itself.
There will be a rod going to it from the handles, sometimes one or two depends on the vehicle and seeing this is not something I am familiar with I can’t say for sure.
See if you can get something in there and push or pull on the part that is hooked to it. It may also be that someone has locked the child safety lock, so that may also need to be worked. I have no idea how it works on that vehicle ether. Dynamite would be my best suggestion. Steve
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01:15 PM
htexans1 Member
Posts: 9115 From: Clear Lake City/Houston TX Registered: Sep 2001
I think I'll try taking the passenger panel off, seeing how the mechanism and link rods are connected and work, and see it I can use a coat hangar or something to manipulate them in the driver's door. A local junkyard has one, but the interior is the wrong color, and it's ridiculously expensive ($150).
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Trade it. No mess, no broken door panel, no bleeding hands.
I've tried to talk him into it. The (Ford) transmission failed at around 72,000 miles, and the transmissions in these cars are notoriuos for going bad. Luckily it was replaced under the extended warranty I just replaced the front pads and rotors on it, too, easy job compared to the Fiero. If I can fix the door and the aftermarket auto-dimming mirror (non-Gentex), maybe I can try talking him into it again. That trans is a ticking time bomb.
Thanks for all the suggestions. Hopefully I can get to it today while the weather is nice.
Well I took the panel off the passenger door to see how it works. I took the cover guard off the driver's door mechanism, and pulled the lock rod toward the front of the car, but it fells like it's jammed locked, like the lock mechanism is glued or rusted together (but the other doors have no rust at all). I tried pulling the lock rod towards the front of the car while pulling the inside handle rod (to open) and lifting the door handle, but it didn't do anything.
Here's what it looks like. The lock rod pivots at one point. Pulling th erod towards the front of the car (right side in pic) should unlock it.
Only two options I can see left are
-Tear panel off and try to get to the mechanism -get to the back of the striker and drill out the two bolts that hold it in
I couldn't figure out how to get to the back of the striker, though. It isn't accessible fom the trunk, and there doesn't appear to be a fender liner at that part of the wheel well.
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01:19 PM
htexans1 Member
Posts: 9115 From: Clear Lake City/Houston TX Registered: Sep 2001
If so that may be part of your problem. They are usually in the door jam an inaccessible unless the door is open.
But this sounds like you may have a jammed mechanism. I don’t think you will be able to do the above idea. Most doors over lap the striker.
Last resort, tear the door pad off as far as you can without destroying it, it may give you some room to look inside. You may want to take the back seat out to give you more access to the doorpad.
Steve
------------------ Technology is great when it works, and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't. Detroit iron rules all the rest are just toys.