Look at what James Snipe hit with his car on a country road 1 mile south of Silsbee, Texas in Hardin County. The lion was still alive but unable to move, so our neighbor called animal control and they came out and put him down. A land ownder had seen this one a week before dragging off a 320 lb. steer. Our neighbor is an amateur taxidermist and he is going to stuff him. He weighed 260 lbs. While most mature male mountain lions weigh 80 to 150 lbs. We had no idea they still roamed around here!
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Posts: 4268 From: Terra Sancta, TX Registered: Oct 2001
Sad that he was hit by a car. I'm wondering if he wasn't someone's pet or previously on an animal reserve or something. As you mentioned, adult male mountain lions almost never get over 150-170 pounds.
Very cool pics!
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Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
That cat would make one heck of a nice coat, hat and footwear. I don't see any reason to let that hide go to waste. I'm not a hunter any longer and would only shoot to kill such an animal if it were taking domesticated stock down but, I see no reason to just stuff it and put it on display, put that hide to use.
Originally posted by Gecko: Since there are none on the east side of the country, how do they get to the middle of Florida? Do they fly or swim?
They were hunted. Human settlers drove them out of most of the southeastern US. But the Florida Panther is now protected, hence the little "island" of habitat in Florida. Check out this website for more details.
One evening just about dark a cougar not quite that big, walked within 100' of me in Aug 2006. We had been in drought for 3 months. I was sitting in my front yard, drinking some iced tea, and he came sauntering down the power line road. He never glanced at me, and after he passed, I got up, went in and got my good flashlight, and my SKS. Shined my light down the dirt road and saw nothing, but then saw him walk back onto the road, from a small pond. Evidently he was thirsty. Those green eyes shone at me for a moment, then he just turned and walked on down the road till he was out of sight. That was the day I decided to erect a 6' chain link fence around the yard. I never finished the entire fence, but did get it up in the front next to the power line road, and told Jane not to wander the property at night unarmed This is located less than 100 miles from Silsbee. It is very unusual to see a big cat in good weather--even at night. They normally hunt during the worst weather imaginable, wet cold and still, when scents stay close to the ground..
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ryan.hess Member
Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
Probably, but they normally will not. The wild ones usually avoid human contact unless threatened, surprised, or very hungry. My nearest neighbor has a permit/lic to keep cougars and the Texas game wardens routinely bring him cats they have either captured from farm areas, or have confiscated from owners who either mistreated the animals or that can no longer afford to keep them. His pens are 6' high chanlink fence. The pen where the older mature animal is, has no top. The pen with the younger healthy animals has a chainlink top. He's never had one escape, but if he has a female in heat, it does cause wild males to come in to the area more often than they normally would.
Next time I am over there, I will get some pictures of his cats.
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38428 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
That is a BIG boy to be wondering around in Texas no matter what area he was killed in. I would have hate to run into him while walking thru the brush.
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Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
More or less, but they are always cats that have previously been in captivity for many years, have been abused, sick, injured, and that have already become dependant upon, and used to interaction with humans.
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Does he breed them?
He used to, but not as a profit making business. He gave the litters to Texas fish & Wildlife as soon as they were weaned (or close to it)--to be released to the wild. Once the female had young, he interacted with her and the young as little as possible, so the young don't see humans as something they could trust or approach after being released to the wild again. His old male still "does it" with the females, but evidently is now 'shooting blanks'. Hasn't been a new litter in several years.
Please understand. My neighbor is an avid outdoorsman, but is exteremly careful to try to keep things as they should be. He truly is a good steward of nature, & only takes in animals that need care, or that have been abused by someone. He never traps them, and to be honest, I don't know how he can afford to feed the and care for them. He is on a very limited income, is disabled, and really cares for these beautiful cats. He wouldn't harm one in the wild or anywhere else, except as a last resort of self defense, and I have never known him to even do it then.