Saying that our Canadian government isn't doing enough to stimulate our nation's economy, three of our countries left leaning parties, the New Democrats, the Liberals, and the French Seperatist Block Quebecois party are forming an unholy alliance to overtake our current governing Conservative Party. It doesn't seem to matter to them that our country has been praised by the G8 and economists world wide for our fiscal financial plan that has made us the envy of the world, the left leaning parties say that the government should be spending more to pump up our economy and prevent a possible recession from taking place. They say we must have a stimulus package put in place, but it uncertain who besides the Big 3 unionized automobile companies that should be recipients of this bailout. They have also pointed to numbers that indicate that Canadians are tightening their wallets and becoming very cautious with their spending, something the left seems to think is a bad thing for our country. In short, the three left leaning parties view the current state of the Big 3 as the sole indicators of our countries economic health. It doesn't matter that the three companies are managed by complete asshats, and that their workforce is made up of a number of overpaid, underworked, union lackies, the fact the the Big 3 are nearing bankruptcy to them means that the country overall is in dire straits. The philosophy of the political left seems to be that you spend your way out of a possible recession, whereas the Conservative view is to tighten your wallet and to avoid unnecessary spending, steering a steady through the rough seas of financial uncertatinty. This so far has worked quite well for us, but this approach has not been popular with the industries like the unionized automakers who require government subsidies to stay afloat.
Also infuriating the left was the Conservative governments motion to scrap the tax payer funded $1.95 per vote awarded to the parties post election. Our Conservative government said that they should lead by example, and have the government make sacrifices to ensure the long term financial health of the country, but the Liberals, Bloc Quebecois, and New Democrats say that this is unbelievable, and that they are entitled to these tax payer funded subsidies. They say that they don't have the same ability as the grassroots Conservative movement to raise funds for their respective political machines, and that by cutting the subsidies their parties would be financially devestated.
Anyways, as our Canadian system works, if the political opposition can work out an agreement to share power in the house, they can approach our Governor General, in this case, a Haitian apointed by the then ruling Liberal party, who will then decides who gets to take power in our country. As our current Governor General is very very left leaning, and her husband has been very active in Quebec's seperatists plan to tear apart the country, it is a no brainer that she will side with the socialists. Fortunately, having been raised and living in Haiti a good portion of her life, she should have a good grasp as to how a proper democratic system works.
Just to put things in perspective, our current Conservative is situated very closely and possibly even further left than the US Democratic party. The Liberals lean further left, and the New Democrats occupy the extreme left wing. Both the Liberals and New Democrats are very pro-union, and the Big 3 are just drooling in anticipation of their planned overthrow of the government. This should be an interesting couple of weeks ahead. I am already planning on withholding my taxes should this Coalition of the Swilling take power, and will do everything I can to make it known I won't stand by idly while these bastards put their bloodless coup into action.
Just an update as to a number of protests that have so far been organized to speak out against the left and tell them we won't stand by and let them make a mockery of our democratic system for their own financial gains. More info below:
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Canada's democratically elected government is being overthrown by a minority of political parties only a month after new Federal Elections.
The reason? The Government, in a time of economic crisis, decided to end the system of political party subsidies, whereby Canadians pay $30 000 000 a year to political parties. All political parties would have suffered, but perhaps none as much as the party committed to destroying our country: the Bloc Quebecois. This was not a political measure; it was an effort to curb spending and overturn a law stealing Canadians' money for politicians. Yet the Canadian opposition is willing to circumvent democracy to protect their own pocketbooks in a time of crisis. The kicker is that this coalition could only be sustained with the support of the separatist party itself, the Bloc Quebecois. This would mean that the government of Canada would be at the mercy of people committed to destroying our confederation. We ask that on Saturday, December 6, democracy-loving Canadians from coast to coast gather on street corners to support democracy, not political games in this time of crisis.
The theme of the protest is not pro-conservative, rather it's pro-democracy. We believe the government should be serving the people's needs, not politician greed. We believe that if the people of Canada truly wanted a coalition government with separatists involved, they would have voted for one.
For major Canadian cities, protests will be held at:
-Queen's Park in Toronto 12:00-2:00 pm -Parliament Hill in Ottawa: between 12:00-2:00 pm -Linda Duncan's office in Edmonton (tentative) -Stephane Dion's office in Montreal (tentative) -Robson Square in Vancouver (tentative) -Calgary City Hall 11:00 am - 1:00 pm -Saskatoon City Hall (underway) -Legislative Assembly of Manitoba in Winnipeg (underway) -Halifax City Hall (underway) -Kitchener City Hall (underway)
If you are interested, please contact Edward Woolley or Matthias O'Brien for further information. Toronto's protest will be led by Matthias and Edward.
There is another protest to be held on Thursday, December 4th, at Rideau Hall. We kindly ask that anyone in the Ottawa region attend BOTH protests.
We may be holding another protest, depending on the outcome of the vote on December 8th. Please invite all of your friends.
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Wichita Member
Posts: 20709 From: Wichita, Kansas Registered: Jun 2002
Yep...this will go over well with the public. Canadians aren't THAT stupid. We'll have another election soon. I'd much rather have an economist in charge (Harper) in these times than a lawyer.
I hope this will lead to the citizens of Canada taking back their government from the left. When politicians tell you openly it is their money, it is way past time they lost jobs.
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Canada's democratically elected government is being overthrown by a minority of political parties only a month after new Federal Elections.
Actually, if you look at things from a purely objective standpoint, our recent elections resembled this comment when you consider the huge amounts of money that came from the farthest left fringe in our country. The guy who got elected got elected because of the far leftist support he had- including our complicit media. He was THE choice of the liberals here and they got him elected by fleecing the public with money thrown at ads and a more than helpful media, pure and simple. But who cares what I think, LOL.
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Also infuriating the left was the Conservative governments motion to scrap the tax payer funded $1.95 per vote awarded to the parties post election.
Sounds a lot like a post election poll tax to me. Texas and other states used to have a poll tax, which has been unconstituional here for some time now, but it's primary function, I believe, was to curb the # of minorities and poor that could vote.
With the new coalitions plans to srap $50 billion worth of planned corporate tax cuts now made public, our TSX market has now taken one of the single largest drops in history. They have now said that they plan on spending $30 billion initially as part of a spending stimulus package. They have also named their ecomic council, who is made up of past liberals embroiled in a number of political scandals, some still undegoing criminals investigation from the RCMP. Ironically enough, the liberal who wants to run this Coalition and be the leader of the New Lib on the Bloc can't even manage his own finances, missing repayment of his leadership debts time after time again and still owing nearly a million dollars to the tax payers. This is just unbelievable to watch unfold. The left say they had no choice to do this as even though polls show most Canadian don't support it, it is ultimately the best thing for our country in these troubled times. Welcome to Canadian democracy, folks.
Well, there went Plan B for when the US falls, (crossing out the Canadian option). Dang, Costa Rica is looking better all the time.
I'm kidding folks, I've got way too much invested in this country, I'll die here. I'll probably be broke but dead is dead whether you're rich or poor.
Sorry to hear the Libs are gaining strength up north. Won't be long and you'll be struggling as much or more than we are.
Ron
The strange thing is they were losing strength. They just had their worst political show since their inception during the last election. Now they have just banded together with the seperatists, who swept most of the seats in Quebec, and the extreme left wing NDP, and this would give enough power to topple our Conservative government.
37seats NDP 77 seats Liberal 50 seats Block Quebec
This gives them 164 Seats. The Conservatives only managed to win a strong minority government last month winning 146 seats.
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Canadians now see the folly of voting in a minority government. They are always beholden to pleasing someone on the "other" side.
You can bet as soon as the votes were counted on Election Day, the Opposition Parties saw that there could arise the opportunity stage a coup, IF they could agree among themselves to work together. Who’d have thought that would be possible, since most days, the Opposition Parties can’t even agree on the color of the sky!
All they needed was an excuse, and what was the uniting “crisis” that brought them together? Not the environment, not the economy, not the world financial crisis - it was the threat that they may lose their place at the teat of the Canadian Taxpayer! THAT more than anything, should show who’s interests the Opposition Parties are putting first. THEIR OWN!
Canadians now see the folly of voting in a minority government. They are always beholden to pleasing someone on the "other" side.
You can bet as soon as the votes were counted on Election Day, the Opposition Parties saw that there could arise the opportunity stage a coup, IF they could agree among themselves to work together. Who’d have thought that would be possible, since most days, the Opposition Parties can’t even agree on the color of the sky!
All they needed was an excuse, and what was the uniting “crisis” that brought them together? Not the environment, not the economy, not the world financial crisis - it was the threat that they may lose their place at the teat of the Canadian Taxpayer! THAT more than anything, should show who’s interests the Opposition Parties are putting first. THEIR OWN!
No two ways about it, this is at the root of the issue. Not that our Liberal-cetric news media will give the truth about this any attention.....
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Just sent my letter to Governor General Michelle Jean. I encourage anyone else concerned about the developing coup to write the GG at info@gg.ca .
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Her Excellency:
Should this coalition be allowed to take place, I will argue vigorously amongst my peers to actively promote and participate in whatever way we can to bring about the separation of western Canada from the nation. This whole saga is driven solely by parties and individuals that cannot accept the fact that they did not win the last election. I do not support in any way the handing out of large sums of money by means of 'stimulus packages' to industries that are failing solely because of their own ineptitude and insistence on manufacturing products that consumers do not want to buy and making agreements with unions that they simply cannot pay for and remain competitive.
Don't think for a second that western Canada will not rise up and resist most vigorously another attempt by central Canada to 'keep us in our place'. My grandfather would be embarrassed and angry that he spent five years of his life in a foreign land to protect a Canada that today he would not recognize or could be proud of.
Isn't it odd? The Conservative extremists are part of a fairly rapidly shrinking minority yet still proclaim themselves as representing the majority will of the people? Hasn't it occurred to anyone that if the majority of people vote against a minority viewpoint that maybe the minority viewpoint isn't the majority anymore, if it ever was? This is a basic principle, it would seem to me. Conservative extremism has shown itself to be fairly anti-social (in a human rather than political sense) and at least in this country has demonstrated a complete failure to comprehend even the basics of fiscal responsibility such as paid for mandates, balanced budgets, and basic record keeping.
JazzMan
As I have said Jazz, the Conservative party in Canada is equal to or to the left politcally than the Democrats down in the states. To call them"extreme" conservatives is laughable. Our Conservative government has managed to run several balanced budgets, running healthy surpluses and gaining praise from a number of respected economists for our fiscal prudence over the past years. Rather than taking the approach of the US administration and handing over stimulus cheques and tax payer bailouts to failing companies, our Conservative government has instead worked to put as much money back into tax payers pockets through the reduction of consumption and income taxes. Instead of taking the easy way out and taxing the heck out of the small business and large corporations, they have worked out a taxation scheme that makes our country an attractive place to invest as such our business, save for the poorly managed unionized auto sector, our doing very well. Just recently here in Saskatchewan we had one firm announcing they will be creating 32,000 new jobs alone here in the province! This whole coup has nothing to do with the economy as the parties say, but rather is all about taking advantage of the unnecessary panic and hysteria craeted by the leftwing media and using it as an opporunity to seize power.
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Isn't it odd? The Conservative extremists are part of a fairly rapidly shrinking minority yet still proclaim themselves as representing the majority will of the people? Hasn't it occurred to anyone that if the majority of people vote against a minority viewpoint that maybe the minority viewpoint isn't the majority anymore, if it ever was? This is a basic principle, it would seem to me. Conservative extremism has shown itself to be fairly anti-social (in a human rather than political sense) and at least in this country has demonstrated a complete failure to comprehend even the basics of fiscal responsibility such as paid for mandates, balanced budgets, and basic record keeping.
JazzMan
Seems there were a few wildcards thrown in there during this demonstration, attacks on US soil, war, corrupt businesses finally having their practices catch up with them. Its easy to blame someone or something you don't particularly like. You only speak of extremism, well, its not very hard to find things wrong with extremism, but extremism is relatively rare.
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Conservative extremism has shown itself to be fairly anti-social (in a human rather than political sense) and at least in this country has demonstrated a complete failure to comprehend even the basics of fiscal responsibility such as paid for mandates, balanced budgets, and basic record keeping.
JazzMan
Partisanship really does give you a narrow field of view, doesn't it? You constantly whine about extremism, yet you've fallen into the same mindset of intellectual bankruptcy and dishonesty.
Canadian politics will always be flawed and unfair as long as there is NO equal representation for every Province. Quebec and Ontario have the bulk of the seats in Parliament and will always hold the power. As long as the senate is a bunch of impotent appointees, that is.
Oh, and don't get me started on how a Federal Government can have a separatist party in Parliament, using our tax dollars to fund their agenda.
And sometimes I think the American system is corrupt. Ha!!
They just had a press conference with the leader of the new Liberal coalition and he said that they have now talked with president elect Obama and he is very happy to hear of the possiblity of an upcoming regime change. They said that their coalition is now working with Obama on developing stronger trade unions to protect jobs in industries such as the auto sector and that the two countires are already looking at formulating a bold plan to fight global warming. Why Obama is playing backroom games with a group ready throw a coup to overtake our current government says much about his character. The three Canadian leaders have also said that the reason why the Canadian auto sector is in such dire straits is because we don't have stronger labour unions in the country. They are saying that they must work on passing legislation to protect themselves job loss in times of economic turmoil. Are these people ****ing retarded? Do they not ****ing get that the reason these ****ing companies are in the position they are in are largely because of the unions? Do they not realize that the auto sector is not in fact in dire straits, rather that it is just the unionized Big 3 that are in shambles while the foreign managed plants are doing quite well for themselves? I can't believe that their solution to a econmic problem caused largely because unions is to create more unions. What the **** are these people smoking.
My blood is literally boiling over watching this all unfold. This is like a nightmare come true.
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And by the way, you're misusing the word "coup" completely. Here's what the wiki for coup has to say: "...often simply called a coup, is the sudden unconstitutional overthrow of a government by a part — usually small — of the state establishment — usually the military — to replace the branch of the stricken government, either with another civil government or with a military government." (emphasis mine).
Wrong. I prefer the actual dictionary definition over what some yahoo chose to write on wikipedia
try this one on for size, and see how he was correctly using the word coup:
http://www.merriam-webster....coup%20d%27%C3%A9tat Main Entry: coup d'état Listen to the pronunciation of coup d'état Variant(s): or coup d'etat Listen to the pronunciation of coup d'etat \ˌkü-(ˌ)dā-ˈtä, ˈkü-(ˌ)dā-ˌ, -də-\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural coups d'état or coups d'etat Listen to the pronunciation of coups d'etat \-ˈtä(z), -ˌtä(z)\ Etymology: French, literally, stroke of state Date: 1646
: a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics ; especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group
Remember, wikipedia does not the truth make, young grasshopper......
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As I have said Jazz, the Conservative party in Canada is equal to or to the left politcally than the Democrats down in the states. To call them"extreme" conservatives is laughable. Our Conservative government has managed to run several balanced budgets, running healthy surpluses and gaining praise from a number of respected economists for our fiscal prudence over the past years. Rather than taking the approach of the US administration and handing over stimulus cheques and tax payer bailouts to failing companies, our Conservative government has instead worked to put as much money back into tax payers pockets through the reduction of consumption and income taxes. Instead of taking the easy way out and taxing the heck out of the small business and large corporations, they have worked out a taxation scheme that makes our country an attractive place to invest as such our business, save for the poorly managed unionized auto sector, our doing very well. Just recently here in Saskatchewan we had one firm announcing they will be creating 32,000 new jobs alone here in the province! This whole coup has nothing to do with the economy as the parties say, but rather is all about taking advantage of the unnecessary panic and hysteria craeted by the leftwing media and using it as an opporunity to seize power.
Meanwhile, I have a great idea.... they quebec and the maritime provinces join up with the blue states of new england, upper mid atlantic, and the great lakes region. The rest of canada can join the moderate and sane rest of our country and form a new entitiy, stretching from georgia to alaska. California can finally become its own independent state, its been wanting that anyways in many ways as it is. Everyone could wind up rather happy under such an arrangement....
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Posts: 712 From: A cold, miserable place Registered: Jan 2008
If you don't mind giving up your health care you can move to the US. Keep in mind that if you, like me, suddenly develop a bum ticker out of the blue you'll find yourself suddenly unemployable and out many thousands of dollars, though. I suspect that you'll do like the wife of a guy here, she's from Canada, she kept her Canadian citizenship and goes back for her serious health care; even with insurance, she can't afford to go to the doctor down here.
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JazzMan
Well, isn't that an interesting state of affairs. By law, only residents qualify for insured health care services. If this individual is not ordinarily resident in Canada (physically present at least 185 days a year), then she's defrauding the provincial health care system (i.e. the taxpayers of Canada).
She's not the only émigré that does this.
Cheers
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Good lord. Now they are talking about bringing Omar Khadr, the US soldier killing muslim fundamentalist, home from his stay in Gitmo. I wonder if the next plan of action is for the New Democrats to try to pass legislation to have Canadian soldiers formally recognized as terrorists? I can't believe it, a bunch of extreme left moonbats, a bunch of seperatists whose only interest is themselves and the destruction of our country, and the Liberals who apparently will whore themselves out to anybody to stay in power. Time to take up arms folks, and start putting together an effort to have the west (Sask, Alberta, and interior BC) seperate from these wing nuts.
Anywhoo, I'm off to find my where I stashed my "Let the East Freeze" bumper stickers. I think there has never been a better time to throw one on the old truck.
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EDMONTON - Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach urged political leaders in Ottawa to put "selfishness" aside and focus on governing the country through the global economic crisis.
"Put Canada first and stop the nonsense," Stelmach said after news broke that Liberal Leader Stephane Dion could take the lead on a coalition government on Parliament Hill.
"This is a time when we need sane, prudent leadership when dealing with the bigger elephant in the room, which is the global economic crisis, a real concern to all Albertans."
Stelmach said he hoped cooler heads would prevail in the days to come, but did not rule out working with the coalition government.
"I think it's just imperative that we move ahead with good, strong economic policies. Give us some predictability and some certainty in policies so that we can attract the investment that's necessary."
If there is a coalition government, Stelmach said he was there to "represent the best interests of all Albertans and that is to protect Albertans from any policies that may not be the best for Alberta.
"Now is the time to set aside some of the regional differences and concentrate on what's best for the country of Canada."
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Nice sentiment, Ed. The sad truth is that all these guys can see is a chance to get their snouts back in the trough....
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Not sure that I agree with the Tory knee jerk reaction of slashing spending, that could have some nasty effects on the overall economy due to the multiplier effect - Harper should know better. On the other hand, God help us if the NDP get their hands on the piggy bank (taxpayer's money). They've done an admirable job of virtually bankrupting every provincial government that they've ever formed (Anyone remember the financial position of Ontario immediately before Bob Rae and his cronies came to power, and how many tens of billions of debt they accumulated before Ontario voters finally threw them out?)
Oh, I almost forgot that Bob Rae is now a Liberal and, prior to the coalition, had kicked off his campaign for leader of the Liberal Party.
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Posts: 39140 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
Looks like our left is gonna help your left.WHOOHOO! It's pure stupidity to bailout the big 3 IMHO. Yet they will probably do it anyway.It pi$$e$ me off to have my hard earned tax dollars used to help these terrible, greedy businessmen to continue to rip off the American public. Americans are too self absorbed to put together a protest. At least Canadians are protesting this outrage of a bloodless coup. Hopefully our letters to our representatives are doing some good, and our displeasure is being taken seriously by them. I'm not holding my breath though. So many americans don't know all the facts that I fear the outcome of what Obamas presidency will bring about. I also think stimulus packages are not the answer to our economic problems. I think good business practices and a halt to unnecessary spending would do more good for our country. All this creative accounting businesses do , doesn't tell the full story of where a company is financially. That is why so many people lose their investments, because they don't know what to look at when investing in a company. Also we have too many people in this country taking a handout instead of working and contributing to the economy, that it's going to be almost impossible to recover from this recession anytime soon. Obama is just going to make this last longer and be more painful for the productive people in this country. It really sucks. I feel your pain.
Jane
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Posts: 1697 From: manteca, california Registered: Jul 2005
Damn...just when I didn't think there was any further left left than our left.
They pulled out the hammer and knocked the drywall out and stepped into the comunist room.
All in all, this is BS. So the opposition dose not agree with the tories. great, vote non confidence and hold an election, don't appoint yourselvs to the position. Let Canada choose who should run the country, oh wait, we already did in October. Damn.....
What really gets me is that the Bloc shouldn't be recognized as a Federal party at all, they only have seats and run candidates in one province, as well, they don't pass the loyalty test and are not acting in the best interest of Canada, being separatists and all. Our Haitian Governor General is an appointee, not elected, and as such should have no right to issue a ruling on the coalitions bid to govern, deferring that decision to the Supreme Court. The real problem is that our parliament was designed to run with two parties, the Tories and the Whigs, there was always a majority government because one or the other party had at least one more seat than the other. As for the Maritimes joining the US, ok if we have to, but we don't want to bring anything north of the St. Lawrence river with us. The only concern of the B.Q. is Quebec, the only concern of the Liberals is Ontario, and the only concern of the NDP is getting into power no matter how. I wish the B.Q. would realize how well off they are wrapped in the Canadian coccoon, how well would they fare on their own, surrounded by 350 million English speaking consumers. If any company even bothered to print labels in French they would charge double the price in Quebec for their product to cover the cost of packaging. No one outside of Quebec would bother with French so they would have to speak English to do anyrhing.
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Posts: 15253 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
What really gets me is that the Bloc shouldn't be recognized as a Federal party at all, they only have seats and run candidates in one province,
Agreed. They don't belong there, but that never seemed to bother the Liberals.
But they always got their panties in a bunch about the Reform Party. Cretien practically refused to recognize Reform as a Federal Party because they didn't have seats in Ontario, Quebec or Maritimes - BUT they had pretty much the rest of the country!
In the "Two Party" system all a government needed to do was appease Ontario and Quebec. If they won everything there, the rest of the country's vote didn't matter. The Coalition is the gathering of the 3 losing parties primarily in those two provinces. In their math "1 loser + 1 loser + 1 loser = 1 Win".
I was down by the St Clair river this evening; and I could hear them over there sharpening their skates... getting ready to come over and take our bacon.
Seriously though, I guess it's good to hear we don't have the market cornered on f---'ed up government down here. Misery loves company. Maybe the annointed one will decend from the clouds up there and fix all your problems for you too.
So Harper asked the Queen to dissolve Parliament so they can't do this end around of the elections? And she said yes?
Close, Harper asked the Governor General to prorogue parliament, temporalily closing it down, until mid January when they table their budget for review by the opposition. This would also give our government the benefit of seeing how your administration is dealing with the auto industry bailout and other economic stimulus. Frankly, I don't think the coalition is going to last too long. Like most prominent leftist personalities such as Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, the leaders of the opposition are already starting to get at each others throat only a week into their coaltion. In case you guys did see it on the news, the opposition was so incompetant yesterday that they were unable to even provide the television networks with their address to the nation in time for broadcast. When it did show up late, it looked like it was filmed by a sixth grader using a webcam. Even more funny, the leader of the opposition attempting to overthrow the current elected government was filmed in what looked to be a makeshift bunker. Even more amusing then the amaturish composition and the leaders inability to speak english, was a book displayed on the shelf in the background titled "HOT AIR". How appropriate!! Media respondants said that if they are unable to even do organize something as simple as getting a tape to the networks in time, how the heck do they think will be competant enough to manage the country??
So far, latest polls indicate that over 70% of Canadians do not support the socialist coalition. This coalition of the left, now made up of four opposition parties (The Liberals, the New Democrats, the seperatist Bloc Quebecois, and the environmentalist Green Party), still insists that it is best for Canadians that they take power, even if polling numbers show the people want otherwise. I tell you, if this thing goes through in January, there is going to be some serious revolt taking place.
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Like most prominent leftist personalities such as Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, the leaders of the opposition are already starting to get at each others throat only a week into their coaltion.
Loafer, do you chuckle to yourself while you post this silly stuff?
Interesting how you ultra right wingers continually attempt to alter history by suggesting that Hitler was a "leftist". Nice try, but it won't work. Like it or not, he's one of your boys.
Back to Canadian politics...
I notice you haven't mentioned anywhere in this thread the percentage of popular vote that the Conservative Party received in the last Canadian federal election. Is there a reason why you've been avoiding this?
Was it 90%?... No. Was it 80%?... No. Was it 70%?... No. Was it 60%?... No. Was it 50%?... No. Was it 40%?... No.
Don't try and suggest to everyone here that the Conservative Party in Canada has the backing of the majority of Canadians. They don't, not by a long shot.
Harper made the biggest mistake of his political life by trying to act like a little dictator when in reality he's just the leader of an impotent minority government. A minority government that needs to appease the other political parties on Parliament Hill in order to survive. You'd think that anyone in his position would've been a bit more careful not to be stepping on toes, but apparently Harper's arrogance got in the way of his reasoning. He's now finding out the hard way what happens when you piss off the majority of the House of Commons.
It's pure stupidity to bailout the big 3 IMHO. Yet they will probably do it anyway.
It pi$$e$ me off to have my hard earned tax dollars used to help these terrible, greedy businessmen to continue to rip off the American public.
Americans are too self absorbed to put together a protest. At least Canadians are protesting this outrage of a bloodless coup. Hopefully our letters to our representatives are doing some good, and our displeasure is being taken seriously by them. I'm not holding my breath though. So many americans don't know all the facts that I fear the outcome of what Obamas presidency will bring about. I also think stimulus packages are not the answer to our economic problems. I think good business practices and a halt to unnecessary spending would do more good for our country. All this creative accounting businesses do , doesn't tell the full story of where a company is financially. That is why so many people lose their investments, because they don't know what to look at when investing in a company. Also we have too many people in this country taking a handout instead of working and contributing to the economy, that it's going to be almost impossible to recover from this recession anytime soon. Obama is just going to make this last longer and be more painful for the productive people in this country. It really sucks. I feel your pain. 
