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Is CNN trying to scam us? by Arns85GT
Started on: 09-08-2008 01:19 PM
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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
I was just watching CNN and to my surprise they reported that Obama was 6 points ahead of McCain before the GOP convention and that they are now virtually tied.

The problem I have is that I recall them reporting Obama being 2 points ahead of McCain prior to the GOP and that would put McCain 4 points ahead today if he had a 6 point bounce.

Of course I watch CNN but I really do believe they are extremely biassed toward the Democratic ticket.

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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ToddsterSend a Private Message to ToddsterDirect Link to This Post
They are.

Does CNN use a reputable poll like Zogby? Rasmussen? Gallup?

Noooooooooooo,

They are reporting the {drum roll please} CNN Opinion Poll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Morons!
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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadDirect Link to This Post
Is CNN trying to scam us?

Well, yeah, duh.................
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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroFanatic13Send a Private Message to FieroFanatic13Direct Link to This Post
From Rasmussen:

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Monday, September 08, 2008


The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain with a statistically insignificant one-point lead over Barack Obama.

In the first national polling results based entirely on interviews conducted after the Republican National Convention, McCain attracts 47% of the vote while Obama earns 46%. When "leaners" are included, it’s McCain 48% and Obama 47%. Tracking Poll results are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day and a FREE daily e-mail update is available.

Last Tuesday, Obama’s bounce peaked with the Democrat enjoying a six-percentage point advantage. Before the two conventions were held, Obama had consistently held a one or two point lead over McCain for most of August (see recent daily results).

McCain leads by four points among men while Obama leads by three among women. On Tuesday, when Obama’s lead peaked, he had a fourteen point advantage among women. Premium Members can review demographic crosstabs and all the data we collect--not just the portion we make public. Premium Members can also get an advance look at tracking poll results via the Daily Snapshot each morning.

Forty-one percent (41%) of voters say that they are certain they will cast their ballot for McCain and will not change their mind before November. Thirty-eight percent (38%) say the same about Obama. Overall, McCain is now viewed favorably by 60% of the nation’s voters while Obama earns positive reviews from 55% (see trends).

Throughout Election 2008, opinions have always been stronger about Obama than McCain. However, that gap is not as wide as it used to be. Thirty-seven percent (37%) of voters have a Very Favorable opinion of Obama while 27% have a Very Unfavorable view. For McCain, those numbers are now 29% Very Favorable and 20% Very Unfavorable.

Later today, polling data will be released showing which candidate voters see as most likely to reach across the aisle and work in a bipartisan manner. Also, now that the conventions are behind us, state-by-state polling has resumed and the first new state data will be released at 6:00 p.m. Eastern Time tonight.

For a variety of reasons, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll is less volatile than some other polls and always shows a somewhat smaller convention bounce than reported by others. This is primarily because we weight our results by party identification (see methodology). Looking at the data before adjusting for partisan identification, the Republican convention appears to have created a larger surge in party identification than the Democratic convention the week before. If this lasts, it could have a significant impact on Election 2008.

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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ToddsterSend a Private Message to ToddsterDirect Link to This Post
From Gallup:

PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain leads Barack Obama, 49% to 44%, in the immediate aftermath of the Republican National Convention, according to the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking results.

Zogby:

The McCain/Palin ticket wins 49.7% support, compared to 45.9% backing for the Obama/Biden ticket, this latest online survey shows. Another 4.4% either favored someone else or were unsure.

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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroFanatic13Send a Private Message to FieroFanatic13Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Toddster:

From Gallup:

PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain leads Barack Obama, 49% to 44%, in the immediate aftermath of the Republican National Convention, according to the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking results.

Zogby:

The McCain/Palin ticket wins 49.7% support, compared to 45.9% backing for the Obama/Biden ticket, this latest online survey shows. Another 4.4% either favored someone else or were unsure.



Thos are nice bounces. Wonder if they'll hold up or even increase...
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Originally posted by FieroFanatic13:

From Rasmussen:

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Monday, September 08, 2008


The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain with a statistically insignificant one-point lead over Barack Obama.

...snip...


For a variety of reasons, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll is less volatile than some other polls and always shows a somewhat smaller convention bounce than reported by others. This is primarily because we weight our results by party identification (see methodology). Looking at the data before adjusting for partisan identification, the Republican convention appears to have created a larger surge in party identification than the Democratic convention the week before. If this lasts, it could have a significant impact on Election 2008.



I should have bolded this part near the end of the Rasmussen poll I posted above to draw attention to their statements about their polls showing a smaller bounce from the conventions. I forgot!
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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierociousGTSend a Private Message to FierociousGTDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

I was just watching CNN and to my surprise they reported that Obama was 6 points ahead of McCain before the GOP convention and that they are now virtually tied.

The problem I have is that I recall them reporting Obama being 2 points ahead of McCain prior to the GOP and that would put McCain 4 points ahead today if he had a 6 point bounce.

Of course I watch CNN but I really do believe they are extremely biassed toward the Democratic ticket.

Arn

Then watch Fox News.

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Report this Post09-08-2008 01:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
All polls are just what people tell them. I could say im voting for ' a' and vote for ' b ' if I want. Id love to tell surveys totally wrong answers just to mess them up. Ignore all of them and vote for your preference and all would work better.
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Report this Post09-08-2008 02:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroFanatic13Send a Private Message to FieroFanatic13Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

All polls are just what people tell them. I could say im voting for ' a' and vote for ' b ' if I want. Id love to tell surveys totally wrong answers just to mess them up. Ignore all of them and vote for your preference and all would work better.


That's a nice thought, but many people watch the polls and it impacts their decisions in some cases. How many people out there, right or wrong, might hear that "so and so has this lead and is sure to win the election tomorrow" and then go out and either A) Vote for that person so they can say the "won" or B) Not bother to vote at all because they believe the person they prefer already lost OR won? More than we'd care to know about, I'm sure. THIS is why they need to keep election polling on the day of voting off the air, as I personally believe that some people might follow these lines of thought, right or wrong.

At any rate, it pays to know what the "mindless" public may be listening to and being impacted by, doesn't it?

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Originally posted by FierociousGT:

Then watch Fox News.


The man has a point. It's better to get both sides of the arguement than one.
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