That's ridiculous. They're in a metal vehicle. The motor is in the engine compartment. As long as the wiring is routed outside of the cabin, they're shielded from any EMF.
The causes of the symptoms are obvious:
"Reported ailments and concerns include rising blood pressure, drowsiness behind the wheel"
High blood pressure cause: Can't merge into traffic fast enough. Stress causes HBP. Need larger engine.
Drowsiness cause: Car is slower than sh**. Need larger engine to keep driver awake.
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"John Dale Dunn, M.D., J.D. (jddmdjd@web-access.net) is a member of the civilian emergency medicine faculty at the Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center, Fort Hood, Texas, and a policy advisor for the American Council on Science and Health."
Excerpt from the article:
Enviro Double Standard
After fears in the 1990s that high-voltage lines might be causing adverse health effects, the National Research Council convened a blue-ribbon committee, chaired by Dr. Charles F. Stevens, and reviewed more than 500 studies on electromagnetic fields and health effects. They found electricity and electromagnetic fields do not cause disease or cancer.
"There is no research definitively linking hybrid batteries to adverse human health effects," said H. Sterling Burnett, senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis. "This is not to say that the issue is not worth investigating. However, it illustrates the double standard regarding environmental activists.
"Environmental activists routinely use the Precautionary Principle as a weapon against technologies and products they do not like," Burnett explained. "They assert that until and unless a product they oppose can be definitively proven to be safe, the product must be banned. Now, however, when consumers and some scientists assert that one of the activists' pet products may be causing serious health harms, the activists act like they have never heard of the Precautionary Principle."
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Yup, the enviros ignore that which is inconvenient to their cause.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
They're mention the concern over power lines in the article. Isn't a hybrid's battery DC? And aren't power lines AC?
shhh!
If it was of any concern, they would put a sticker on it that says, "Do not occupy vehicle if you have a pacemaker."
The simple fact is that the controller and motor are sealed in a metal compartment that shields you from any electromagnetic radiation. That's why if you wrap your cell phone with tin foil, it won't ring if you get a call.
The batteries operate at 220 volts. Magnetic radiation is a function of amperage. (The batteries are only 7 amp hours.) There must be 20 fold more current flowing when you start your car in the morning.
Yup, the hysteria about the environment and the love affair with the Prius *is* getting absurd.
Yes probably, but the diffrence is this (the post subject) is absurd because its baseless idiotic drivel, the enviromentalism is because we are trashing the enviroment. Im no tree hugger, but when you think of the scale of it all, its kinda scary.
Damn, Jazz beat me to it, there is a slight diffrence between a 3" thick wire carrying 500,000 volts and a little 205v DC line pushing less than 75 amps, Honda's run on a 144 volt system.
And you think sitting 5' from an electric motor shielded by body steel is more dangerous than holding a cell phone to your head 6 hours a day?
I dont mean to be harsh, I can understand how someone who didnt know could be sucked in by the official look of it, and assuming the writer was a compenant, non moronic retard, but sadly you were mistaken, and the entire concept is completely asinine.
Oh... and since when do batteries have a magnetic field? If they knew the first thing about electro magnatism, or well for that matter common sense, they would have either replaced that statement with something less idiotic, or at least left it out. The Alleged magnetic fields would be emittited around the wires and the motor.
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lurker Member
Posts: 12355 From: salisbury nc usa Registered: Feb 2002
the entire hybrid flap eludes me. hybrids are at best a stopgap measure while battery technology improves.
a pure electric car would suffice for 95% of my transportation, and is currently utterly useless for the other 5%. the sole benefit now of a hybrid would be that i wouldn't have to sit somewhere waiting for my batteries to recharge.
when we have electrics that can go highway speeds for 8 hours and recharge overnight, then hybrids will appear ridiculous. neither fish nor fowl, and not particularly good at either.
meanwhile, hybrids are a good transitional move for those who can (and want to) afford a new car. hybrids will take some of the pressure off demand for gasoline, and provide a platform for electric technology development. if it suits your needs, please do get a hybrid. the early adopters will get to deal with the depreciation and the technology learning curve, and i'll be able to pick up a good used electric car for cheap in about 10 years.
Its the poster-child for the air headed environmentalist movement. It embodies what alot of people cant stand. So they pick at the smallest things to destroy it and most of it is baseless.
It is what the environmentalists themselves do for a living... and again shows their double-standard hypocrisy.
I dont really see where it represents anything. I suppose it did a few years ago, but nowadays, you cant take a drive without seeing one. I see where you are coming from, and maybe some thickheaded people still think that way, but IMO, the "status" value of the car is gone since there are so many on the road now. But you're probably right, its the best explanation Ive heard as to why some people are so blindly against them.
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Posts: 1210 From: Somewhere beetween raisin' hell... and saving grace. oh... and MN Registered: Jan 2006
Originally posted by lurker: a pure electric car would suffice for 95% of my transportation, and is currently utterly useless for the other 5%. the sole benefit now of a hybrid would be that i wouldn't have to sit somewhere waiting for my batteries to recharge.
You can convert Prii(? ) to electric. I think it involves buying another battery pack and a 110 charger (adds a few grand to the cost of the car). The best part is if you run out of juice there's always a gas station around the corner.
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
Im not against them for people who do want them. Leaves more gas for me... I only point out the few things I see that might or might not be drawbacks. A lot of people think wagons are useless and ugly too.
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fierobear Member
Posts: 27106 From: Safe in the Carolinas Registered: Aug 2000
IMO classic station wagons look a little better than the new crossover wagons and minivans (wagons with sliding doors). The lower rooflines look cleaner. But the term 'station wagon' just isn't 'in' anymore.
A friend's dad used to have a Dodge Dart wagon back in the day that ran 11-something in the quarter mile... now THAT"S a grocery-gitter
) to electric. I think it involves buying another battery pack and a 110 charger (adds a few grand to the cost of the car). The best part is if you run out of juice there's always a gas station around the corner.
