Hey, since we had a Water 4 Fuel using Electrolysis, Why not use Paul Pantone's invention? GEET? It does almost the same thing, without electricity. It uses Carbs (eww Carbs!) but hey it was invented back in the 80s! Throw away your fancy fuel injection for GEET to work on your daily driver. Run off of some lawn mower carbs, and have a specially designed fuel cell, and also have to do exhaust modification. Low emmisions, high gas mileage, though since I have never tested these claims, I have no clue on its power. it seems to work, quite well actually, and in this video, definately makes a point about the news making fun of good inventions that are out of the norm, and people ridiculing, and at the end, most likely about gas companies doing what they do best... trying to kill anyhting that makes them less profit. Video on it:
Make a vote, I feel like testing one of these :P
Should I do the simpler, Electrolysis setup where I have H2 and O being fed into my intake to try and richen the mixture enough to increase fuel economy, or try this crazy Paul Pantone setup, and install it in a car of some sort? maybe a junkyard junker to just see if it turns the car over?
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USFiero Member
Posts: 4877 From: Everywhere and Middle of Nowhere Registered: Mar 2002
Looks like the exhaust is simply vaporizing the fuel.
Or not.
The fuel is vaporized before the exhaust, there is a chemical reaction inside the exhaust that GEET uses, the cold vapor is fed through the hot exhaust, creating an electrical current and magnetic field. Paul Pantone even said he doesnt know EXACTLY what happens, but he says there might be something to do with plasma in there :P
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Posts: 10199 From: Ticlaw FL, and some other places. Registered: Aug 2001
Hmmm. "Mysterious" chemical reaction caused by exhaust heat and magnetism. Check. Throw in a conspiracy theory for good measure. Check. The only thing missing is a Nigerian connection.
Gas prices are up, and so is the volume of advertising for "gas-saving" products. When gasoline prices rise, consumers often look for ways to improve fuel efficiency. Although there are practical steps you can take to increase gas mileage, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) warns you to be wary of any gas-saving claims for automotive devices or oil and gas additives. Even for the few gas-saving products that have been found to work, the savings have been small. Devices Tested by U.S. EPA
As of December 2005, the following list categorizes various types of "gas-saving" products, explains how they're used and gives product names. Those with asterisks may save measurable, but small, amounts of gas. All others have been found not to increase fuel economy.
Air Bleed Devices. These devices bleed air into the carburetor. They usually are installed in the Positive Crankcase Ventilation line or as a replacement for idle-mixture screws.
Vapor Bleed Devices. These devices are similar to the air bleed devices, except that induced air is bubbled through a container of a water and anti-freeze mixture, usually located in the engine compartment.
The U.S. EPA has evaluated: Atomized Vapor Injector; Frantz Vapor Injection System; Hydro-Vac: POWERFUeL; Mark II Vapor Injection System; Platinum Gasaver; V-70 Vapor Injector; SCATPAC Vacuum Vapor Induction System: Econo-Mist Vacuum Vapor Injection System; Turbo Vapor Injection System.
Liquid Injection. These products add liquid into the fuel/air intake system and not directly into the combustion chamber.
The U.S. EPA has evaluated: Goodman Engine System-Model 1800; Waag-Injection System*.
* Indicated a very small improvement in fuel economy but with an increase in exhaust emissions. According to Federal regulations, installation of this device could be considered illegal tampering.
** Indicated a very small improvement in fuel economy without an increase in exhaust emissions. However, cost-effectiveness must be determined by the consumer for a particular application.
Hmmm. "Mysterious" chemical reaction caused by exhaust heat and magnetism. Check. Throw in a conspiracy theory for good measure. Check. The only thing missing is a Nigerian connection.
This one been proven already and been installed by joe blows on their lawn mowers, it DOES work!
Well! In that case, I think you should invest every dollar you can save, beg, borrow or steal into this magical device. You may want to read this first, though: 300 MPG Carburetors
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Apparently the GEET kits can slightly improve gas mileage on an idling engine by vaporizing the fuel. I'm not aware of any cars running well with this that can really be demonstrated. GEET demonstrations are said to be short because the reactor part of the mechanism quickly gums up - especially when they throw non-fuel materials in. The reforming of fuel and vaporization of it have been known since 1920. There are many patents on this sort of thing predating GEET. Most such patents are available for anyone to use because they expired years ago. The problem is that GEET systems just don't work well over a varying load, you greatly reduce a cars power with them, you void the warranty and it is illegal to sell unapproved carbs in California (maybe other states).
Good luck!
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Apr 23rd, 2008
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Posts: 1460 From: Hooksett, NH, USA Registered: Nov 2007
hehe, exactly why I said use a junkyard junker, I wont go too far into spending for it. With scrapheap runs I could get everything I need, and not be in the hole too much, including a carbed car
