Clinton: This may be headed to a joint ticket Posted: 11:45 AM ET
Clinton said Wednesday the race may result in a joint ticket. (CNN) – The morning after primary wins in Ohio, Texas, and Rhode Island, Hillary Clinton said she would consider being part of a Democratic “dream ticket” that would include both her and presidential rival Barack Obama.
"That may be where this is headed,” she told the CBS Early Show during a marathon set of appearances on the network morning news shows. “But of course we have to decide who is on the top of ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."
The New York senator has made the claim before. Last month, in one of several interviews where she said the scenario was a possibility, she told a Vibe interviewer: “Of course there is (a chance of a joint ticket). Of course there is. Now neither of us will answer this question because we don’t want to look presumptuous and premature. But it is more than fair to say that — of course there is.”
While Clinton has said a joint ticket is possible, the Obama team has largely avoided making similar statements. Some of the Illinois senator’s campaign surrogates have said they believe the claims benefit Clinton because they may convince Democratic voters drawn to the Illinois senator that a vote for her is essentially a vote for both of them — or a vote for him to head the ballot in eight years, after she has had her two terms on top of the ticket.
Primary season rivals who have successfully shared a presidential ticket after tough nominating fights include Democrats John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, and Republicans Ronald Reagan and George Bush.
Originally posted by blackrams: 01-15-2008 08:10 AM After putting a lot of thought into this, I've decided that Obama and Clinton are being way to nice to each other. Here's my prediction, Whoever wins the most electoral votes will be the Democrat nominee, the second place person will be on the ticket as VP. I see this as a win/win for the Demoncrats. Still haven't decided on Republicans but I'm thinking McCain will be the nominee, though I still have a real problem with his position on Illegal Immigration.
Don't say you weren't warned.
Ron
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I'm still voting Republican... it's the lesser of all three evils.
You can't, there isn't one.
Your choice is between a Democrat who doesn't mind a 100 year war, a Democrat who voted for the war before she voted against it, and a Democrat rock star with big dreams.
Oh, and nader.
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blackrams Member
Posts: 33154 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
Originally posted by ryan.hess: You can't, there isn't one.
Your choice is between a Democrat who doesn't mind a 100 year war, a Democrat who voted for the war before she voted against it, and a Democrat rock star with big dreams.
Oh, and nader.
I believe you left Mr. Ron Paul out, I don't believe he's quit the race quite yet.
BTW, to be fair, that 100 year quote was taken totally out of context, Senator McCain has explained that several times. Somethings along the lines of we still have a military presence in Germany, Japan and several other countries, the difference being that no casualties are occurring there.
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Your choice is between a Democrat who doesn't mind a 100 year war, a Democrat who voted for the war before she voted against it, and a Democrat rock star with big dreams.
Oh, and nader.
Sorry guy... I now support the war. This war is my only meal ticket now so I'm afraid a 100 year war is just what I need. I'm 100% Republican now.
Originally posted by blackrams: I believe you left Mr. Ron Paul out, I don't believe he's quit the race quite yet.
BTW, to be fair, that 100 year quote was taken totally out of context, Senator McCain has explained that several times. Somethings along the lines of we still have a military presence in Germany, Japan and several other countries, the difference being that no casualties are occurring there.
Lets be fair and call a spade a spade - as long as there is an "al qaeda in Iraq", we will be there in combat operations under Mr. McCain. (He's said this multiple times) And I believe, now that the door is wide open, there will always be al qaeda in Iraq.
Now, Ron Paul........ The only person I could vote for and not feel dirty afterwards......... He's got a snowballs' chance in hell. I took off my rose colored glasses after I thought he would win FL. If he runs as a 3rd party, he might get 10% of the vote. MAYBE even 15 or 20%............. But not enough to win.
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I dont see a democrat winning the election at all. BUT, ill take just about any other politician other than Clinton.....Shes a player, tells everyone what they want to hear even if its completely opposite the next week. Shes not even a good liar which almost is a requirement these days.
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Posts: 13798 From: Palm Bay, Florida Registered: Nov 1999
If the D ticket is Obama and Clinton, just who will be on top? President Clinton, VP Obama or President Obama and VP Clinton. Just think Pelosi will be third in line. no matter who wins the election.
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If the D ticket is Obama and Clinton, just who will be on top? President Clinton, VP Obama or President Obama and VP Clinton. Just think Pelosi will be third in line. no matter who wins the election.
It won't get that far. If Obama is on top of the ticket, and they win, he'll have to have armed guards (paid by him) to guard him, the Clintons will stop at nothing to get back to Pennsylvania Ave.
But the Obama-Hillary ticket has one main issue, no matter who is on top. That's the white male vote.
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blackrams Member
Posts: 33154 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
Originally posted by ryan.hess: Lets be fair and call a spade a spade - as long as there is an "al qaeda in Iraq", we will be there in combat operations under Mr. McCain. (He's said this multiple times) And I believe, now that the door is wide open, there will always be al qaeda in Iraq.
Now, Ron Paul........ The only person I could vote for and not feel dirty afterwards......... He's got a snowballs' chance in hell. I took off my rose colored glasses after I thought he would win FL. If he runs as a 3rd party, he might get 10% of the vote. MAYBE even 15 or 20%............. But not enough to win.
I agree, as long as al qaeda is in Iraq, we'll be there and in all probability, long afterwards in some form or another, similar to Japan and Germany or South Korea. I would hope the Iraqi Government could stand up on it's own but, that may be too much to ask for now or in ten years. I also agree that Mr. Paul won't get anywhere but then I never thought he had a chance, third party or not.
Ron
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Posts: 41385 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
If the D ticket is Obama and Clinton, just who will be on top? President Clinton, VP Obama or President Obama and VP Clinton. Just think Pelosi will be third in line. no matter who wins the election.
I thought about this today. And shuddered.
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Posts: 9014 From: Colorful Colorado Registered: Mar 99
Originally posted by AntiKev: It won't get that far. If Obama is on top of the ticket, and they win, he'll have to have armed guards (paid by him) to guard him, the Clintons will stop at nothing to get back to Pennsylvania Ave. But the Obama-Hillary ticket has one main issue, no matter who is on top. That's the white male vote.
I can't see Obama on top of Hillary, his wife is too good looking. Obama / Hillary, Good Cop / Bad Cop, Bush / Chaney? With Hillary behind him, I think Obama would get fitted for body armor. I wouldn't be real suprised to find someone popping a cap on either, although Chaney's the only VP that's actualy done that.
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I'm not going to vote for Clinton or Obama. A combined ticket wouldn't even help their chances.
And there is no way that Hillary would even ever think about being the VP. It's either the Presidency or she is Senator for a very long time.
Although their are words circulating around, but Obama would have to win in November, but all signs shows that McCain will beat both Hillary or Obama, but let's say Obama wins the nomination and the Presidency. To satisfy the Plantation Owners of the Democratic Party, Hillary would be slated for a Supreme Court Justice position. Meaning she would be in for life.
The circle jerk in the Clinton war room is that they are talking to the Obama camp about this.
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Posts: 7849 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Sep 2003
Although their are words circulating around, but Obama would have to win in November, but all signs shows that McCain will beat both Hillary or Obama, but let's say Obama wins the nomination and the Presidency.
I wish there was a clear leader in the dem party by now. It looks like its going to be a neck and neck race. IF it comes down to a split ticket of the two (which i really don't see) Clinton will run for pres with the promise that it will be one term then let Obama run for the next term. No way will Hil be vice.
I still keep my options open. If McCain's issues with the war and immigration were different I might cross my "party" lines and vote for him. I really like him and always have. McCain sems like a stand up guy, does what he says, says what he means. He isn't the best public speaker and I think either Obama or Clinton will whip him in debates.
I think the bigger question right now is who will McCain choose as vice. If he goes more conservative I don't have any interest. But if he goes with a more middle or the road vice?
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I believe Yo'mama has a much better chance to be elected than Hillary Rob'em...she's just too divisive a figure. Obama has shown himself to be a solid contender, and a terrific orator; he plays very well on camera. Six months ago everyone viewed Hillary (including Hillary) as the heir apparent and uncrowned queen of the Democratic party; now she's fighting for her political life. I doubt very seriously she would accept second fiddle, and I don't think the Democrats are dumb enough to throw away a chance at the White House just to satisfy Her Majesty. She called in a lot of markers to win Texas and Ohio. McCain/Obama? Too close to call. McCain/Clinton? McCain wins it going away.
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Posts: 2333 From: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Registered: May 2004
Originally posted by mrfiero: What? All white males are predisposed to voting against women or black people?
No, but they are predisposed to vote against their mother in law. There's about 60-70% of the population that votes one way or the other every election. The other 30-40% actually decide what happens.
Obama's "rockstar" support would see him playing second fiddle to Hillary as a sell out. And anyone that wouldn't vote for Hillary at the top of the ticket, wouldn't be any MORE inclined to do it with Obama. The only chance the Dems have is to run Obama with someone like the Breck Girl (Edwards) or Bill Richardson on the ticket. Clinton anywhere on the ticket is a losing proposition.
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Posts: 10199 From: Ticlaw FL, and some other places. Registered: Aug 2001
He he he he. Good one. . . . . There IS one more candidate: Thomas Boyle On February 29, the race for the Democratic nomination got an awful lot easier: Thomas Boyle, uncle of Lara Flynn Boyle, finally announced his run for president. From the next frontrunner's press release: "Mr. Boyle, the former U.S. House of Representatives Page, Real Estate broker, and music composer is quoted, 'On this special day, Leap Year Day, and the birthday of that other great American, Superman, I am throwing my hat in the race for the White House."
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President Boyle says " We need low energy prices to build full employment jobs." We will not repeat the mistake made by George Bush. His hands are tied when it comes to energy. He is bought by the energy companies. He is not committed to low energy costs. President Boyle will be. It can be done.
As for the Clintons facing political extinction, we can always hope, but these two slimeballs are relentless in their quest for control of the country. I'll start trusting the Clintons to be out of the political business when both of them have been dead three years.
Hil will not take 2nd place on the ticket with Barack.
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Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
When over 50% of Americans say they would NEVER vote for Hilary under any circumstances I think it is safe to say that any ticket she is on in any order is a doomed ticket.
Thank goodness.
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