Thanks to everyone for explaining to me what a "bugout" bag is, but the reason for the term is still rather hazy.
(And yes, I used to be a big fan of M*A*S*H years and years ago... )
The reason is if in case of tornado or natural disaster you have to leave your house to seek shelter unexpectidly. You can just grab the bugout bag and BUG OUT!
If you want to be really prepared, you keep a bug out truck stocked with supplies so you can just jump in and go. 4x4, because you'll need it. Full shotgun rack, too. Can't be too careful.
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tmur115 Member
Posts: 888 From: Battle Ground WA Registered: Jan 2006
Now the zombies, those I am not ready for, hopefully they will realize I am really fatty, and don't really taste good.
Brad
it would depend on the "type" of zombie, the new type (resident evil) might care about fat, however the old type (dawn of the dead) just want your brains (almost no fat there) however i feel safe from both types, at least until most of the "sheeple" are gone. as im fat and why eat a sunflower seed when you can have a coconut.... lol....
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38688 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
The reason is if in case of tornado or natural disaster you have to leave your house to seek shelter unexpectidly. You can just grab the bugout bag and BUG OUT!
Maybe I'm just dense (okay, you all don't have to nod like that ), but does the phrase "bug out" basically mean the same as "camp out"? If so, it's gotta be an American expression, because I've personally never heard it used up here in the great white north.
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lurker Member
Posts: 12355 From: salisbury nc usa Registered: Feb 2002
Maybe I'm just dense (okay, you all don't have to nod like that ), but does the phrase "bug out" basically mean the same as "camp out"? If so, it's gotta be an American expression, because I've personally never heard it used up here in the great white north.
bug out is to hurriedly depart, flee, escape. usually you have only enough time to grab a few essentials, hence the bag.
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tmur115 Member
Posts: 888 From: Battle Ground WA Registered: Jan 2006
I'm confused about the bugout bag protocol and priorities here. Is it wooden stakes, mallet, silver bullets, garlic, Crosses, molotovs, and mirror? or flashlights, drinking water, food, etc?
Am I s'posed to keep 2 bags?
just to make it clear for zombies this would be mostly usless.....
wooden stakes - vampires
mallet - to short to use on zombies,a bat would be a "better choice"
silver bullets - werewolfs
garlic - vampires
Crosses - only if you have "faith" see : Fright night
molotovs - most usefull item here for living and undead
mirror - again vampires
todd
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38688 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
okay, now that we are talking about my "Prepare for the living dead" bag, here is what I will pack, and why:
1 Grey Squirrel - You can use this handy little creature to lob at any living or undead being, in its fright it will latch onto the nearest object. Dependant on aim, you can hit the target in the face, thus rendering the target blind, and mildly hurt
1 chainsaw - Cut said target to tiny bits
1 can of gasoline - Fire always helps
1 block of styrofoam - So does napalm
5 matches - To light fire with... fire...
3 pre-cooked pancakes in a sandwich baggie - Best not eat the infected food of the future
1987 Pontiac Fiero GT die cast model - Dazze the undead! Giving you time to escape
1 package of baking soda - Read next
1 bottle of vinegar - One more down
1 2L bottle of coke - Drink coke instead of infected fluids of the future, use baking soda and vinegar to make a rocket out of the empty bottle, read below
1 sheet metal cone - attach to tip of said rocket
5 bottles of poisin - I always spill this stuff
1 package of sewing needles - attach to tip of cone
3 pre made fins for bottle rocket - Gotta fly straight somehow
1 package of Twinkies - Never go hungry again
2 packages of Antacid - If turned into a zombie, brains upset my stomach, best be prepared.
All packed in a big backpack, it could work!
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buddycraigg Member
Posts: 13620 From: kansas city, mo Registered: Jul 2002
Maybe I'm just dense (okay, you all don't have to nod like that ), but does the phrase "bug out" basically mean the same as "camp out"? If so, it's gotta be an American expression, because I've personally never heard it used up here in the great white north.
I'm not sure about the "bug" part. The expression to "head out" was a whaling term. When the whales were being chased they would bring their heads out of water to take in more air and thus move faster. So to head out literally means "head out of water, hauling ass so you don't get a harpoon in you". bug out is some later modification of the term.
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Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
It seems like a strange association of words and meanings. I'd be curious to know the origin of this expression.
Have you ever walked into the kitchen at night and turned on the lights to see a couple of bugs scatter as soon as the lights come on? Hence the term - bug out. i.e. To flee the area immediately, like a startled bug.
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Gokart Mozart Member
Posts: 12143 From: Metro Detroit Registered: Mar 2003
I don't have one. If I have time, I have 2 military duffle bags I can stuff in a very short time. I know what I want in them. Just stay out of my way and don't distract me. If I don't have time, I'm SOL like 90% of everyone else.
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blackrams Member
Posts: 32993 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
Originally posted by Patrick: Maybe I'm just dense (okay, you all don't have to nod like that ), but does the phrase "bug out" basically mean the same as "camp out"? If so, it's gotta be an American expression, because I've personally never heard it used up here in the great white north.
I believe the term originated from actual experiences with bugs. Ever walk into a dark room and flip on the light switch? If there are any bugs (roaches normally) they Bug Out of the area to one that is safer.
Ron
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sostock Member
Posts: 5907 From: Grain Valley, MO Registered: May 2005
I had not thought of the bugs running when the lights are turned on. (I don't have that problem ) I was wondering if it was a term that came from the locust swarms in the late 1800's. In the American West there were grasshoppers so thick that they would block out the sun. When you saw that dark cloud on the horizon it might be time to "bug out".
I don't know, usually the best interpretation is a literal one. I'm sure the term actually came from something involving bugs.
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Cadillac Jack Member
Posts: 1165 From: Jacksonville, IL, USA Registered: May 2003
waterproof insulated hooded coat waterproof insulated coveralls waterproof boots a small tarp flashlight duck tape parachute cord a hatchet sharpened like a knife a knife 2 cans of tuna multi tool matches rubbing alcohol dental floss needle toothbrush 1 pair of socks 1 pair of underwear soap short barreled .500 mag 2 boxes of ammo water purifier cotton balls lots of 'em e-tool 2 tarp straps everything except the e-tool fits in a bucket with a rotating cushion on the lid the e tool is tarp strapped to the bucket
Not exactly the same, but my Y2k Bag ( not that i was worried about the world ending, just all the weirdoes that thought it was ):
Large Snickers. Shortwave Radio Box of ammo. 2 liter of pop.
For a home survival, we have non perishable food here for 4 weeks minimum ( and extra plastic containers to put in the truck if we had to leave ), crank radio/flashlight, propane camping heater, tent, sleeping bags, a 20 gallons of gas in the garage, ammo...
Hmm, I'd never really thought about any of this... Really the only disaster I feel is likely enough to bother with worrying about would be a fire (especially because I have a wooden house in the woods) and even then I don't have a bag packed for it. I keep clothes nearby so I never have to escape naked, I keep all my important documents in one folder that I might be able to grab in time... but that's about it.
Weather, attacks, zombies... I wonder if I'm naive or if I'm just not being paranoid?
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lurker Member
Posts: 12355 From: salisbury nc usa Registered: Feb 2002
Have you ever walked into the kitchen at night and turned on the lights to see a couple of bugs scatter as soon as the lights come on? Hence the term - bug out. i.e. To flee the area immediately, like a startled bug.
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Originally posted by blackrams:
I believe the term originated from actual experiences with bugs. Ever walk into a dark room and flip on the light switch? If there are any bugs (roaches normally) they Bug Out of the area to one that is safer.
Thanks guys, I guess that makes some sense of the expression.
I must’ve lived a sheltered life because the only time I’ve ever seen a roach (outside of a “zoo” setting) was about 30 years ago in a Hollywood restaurant. I’m not kidding. I was sitting there at the table waiting for the order to be brought out and a cockroach ran across the table. I wasn’t even sure what the heck it was at the time, but I knew I didn’t want it in my dinner (or my pants!).
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sostock Member
Posts: 5907 From: Grain Valley, MO Registered: May 2005
Thanks guys, I guess that makes some sense of the expression.
I must’ve lived a sheltered life because the only time I’ve ever seen a roach (outside of a “zoo” setting) was about 30 years ago in a Hollywood restaurant. I’m not kidding. I was sitting there at the table waiting for the order to be brought out and a cockroach ran across the table. I wasn’t even sure what the heck it was at the time, but I knew I didn’t want it in my dinner (or my pants!).
LOL ya i think you've lived a sheltered life! When I was a kid I had a cockroach as a pet. Tied a string of dental floss around his neck and took him for walks. His name was Legs.
seriously you've never raced roaches? if you take some white out you can mark them. stick them under a cup and let em go!
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38688 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
Yep, seriously. I wonder if it's possible that there are simply fewer roaches up here because it's cooler than down south. Anyway, I've never seen one here in Vancouver (except in a cage).
The only creepy bugs I have in my place are silverfish. They live at the top of the basement stairs (I don't know why) and yes, they scatter as soon as the light goes on. I only see them about every six months, so either they're few and far between, or they're really fast.
Am I crazy for thinking about getting an old vehicle that has no electronics in it in case there is a dirty bomb set loose that makes electronics useless?
Yes it would run out of gas, but it could possibly get me somewhere, and a homemade siphon could get me along until I am somewhere safe.
The big question would probably be, where is safe. With no electronics I wouldn't have radio, or any other means of knowing what was going on, but I think deep into the Ozarks, and an old deep cave I know would be enough.
Am I crazy for thinking about getting an old vehicle that has no electronics in it in case there is a dirty bomb set loose that makes electronics useless?
Yes it would run out of gas, but it could possibly get me somewhere, and a homemade siphon could get me along until I am somewhere safe.
The big question would probably be, where is safe. With no electronics I wouldn't have radio, or any other means of knowing what was going on, but I think deep into the Ozarks, and an old deep cave I know would be enough.
Brad
your still screwed with any vehicle with one of those types of bombs... (your ignition if IIRC) but it would take alot of power to be very widespread..
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jstricker Member
Posts: 12956 From: Russell, KS USA Registered: Apr 2002
A dirty bomb won't do it, it would have to be a real nuke to discharge the EMP that would fry the electronics.
I don't really have a bag as I have planned to be a refuge. IOW, this is where people will run TO, not away from. Seriously. I have two water distillers. I have a minimum of 15 gallons of already distilled water at all times (I use it in my radiators in everything, so it's always fresh, but always full and can be used for other things). I do have 3 vehicles that while they currently have electronic ignitions, are conversions and the points can be replaced in them, as well as a few diesel non-electronic vehicles. I have several weapons, hand and long guns, with ample ammunition for them. Standby generators, freezers full of food, and other necessities including medical supplies. I live on high ground so flooding is not an issue. I'm over 100 miles from even any tertiary potential targets. I live several miles off any main highway and my property is defensible. I also live less than 1/2 mile from a retired Marine Colonel that has forgot more about prepartion and defense from various threats than any of us will ever know.
There are more preparations I've made, but I'd rather not put them on a public forum.
John Stricker
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Originally posted by twofatguys:
Am I crazy for thinking about getting an old vehicle that has no electronics in it in case there is a dirty bomb set loose that makes electronics useless?
Yes it would run out of gas, but it could possibly get me somewhere, and a homemade siphon could get me along until I am somewhere safe.
The big question would probably be, where is safe. With no electronics I wouldn't have radio, or any other means of knowing what was going on, but I think deep into the Ozarks, and an old deep cave I know would be enough.
Brad
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
A dirty bomb won't do it, it would have to be a real nuke to discharge the EMP that would fry the electronics.
I don't really have a bag as I have planned to be a refuge. IOW, this is where people will run TO, not away from. Seriously. I have two water distillers. I have a minimum of 15 gallons of already distilled water at all times (I use it in my radiators in everything, so it's always fresh, but always full and can be used for other things). I do have 3 vehicles that while they currently have electronic ignitions, are conversions and the points can be replaced in them, as well as a few diesel non-electronic vehicles. I have several weapons, hand and long guns, with ample ammunition for them. Standby generators, freezers full of food, and other necessities including medical supplies. I live on high ground so flooding is not an issue. I'm over 100 miles from even any tertiary potential targets. I live several miles off any main highway and my property is defensible. I also live less than 1/2 mile from a retired Marine Colonel that has forgot more about prepartion and defense from various threats than any of us will ever know.
There are more preparations I've made, but I'd rather not put them on a public forum.
John Stricker
So what's your address? I'm crashing at your place when the end of the world happens. I'll bring a video and a bucket of chicken as my contribution.
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) I was wondering if it was a term that came from the locust swarms in the late 1800's. In the American West there were grasshoppers so thick that they would block out the sun. When you saw that dark cloud on the horizon it might be time to "bug out". 
