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how long will it take my mom to get a virus? by buddycraigg
Started on: 10-13-2007 02:19 AM
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Report this Post10-13-2007 02:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
i just finished a fresh install of XPpro,
put AVG, spybot S&D, SG, and ZoneAlarm on it.

i bet she has a trojen within a week

she's almost 70 and loves her poker sites.
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Report this Post10-13-2007 03:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DtheCSend a Private Message to DtheCDirect Link to This Post
Goood start, I'm running most the same. AVG, AdAware, WinPatrol. Trojan Remover.
Don't trust enought 1 thing to do everything !
I haven't been any place 'odd' though, part of it it is keeping your shoes cleean ?
<1 A year anything pops up for me.

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Report this Post10-13-2007 04:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
If she's anything like my mother, less than 48 hours. When I'm home she always uses my computer because 'it's so much faster!'
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Report this Post10-13-2007 08:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
She already has one and doesn't know it yet. You just cant protect people from themselves.

Take administrator rights away and make sure that the pop up blocker is turned on.

[This message has been edited by Jake_Dragon (edited 10-13-2007).]

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Report this Post10-13-2007 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
WinXP has a built-in firewall. So there's no need to install ZoneAlarm. IMO, ZoneAlarm isn't that great anyway. However, I would suggest installing the Firefox web browser. It's more secure than IE.

I would also suggest making a standard user account for her to use, and put a good password on the administrator account. You might even want to have the computer automatically log in her user account on boot-up, so she isn't tempted to log on as admin.

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Report this Post10-13-2007 04:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gendo3Send a Private Message to Gendo3Direct Link to This Post
I keep my computer at the Parent's place, where they and three kids who share the computer...I installed Firefox, and Spybot, and AVG, and set up an Admin password...never seen a popup I reformat about twice a year just in case, but never had a problem...
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Report this Post10-13-2007 04:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Finally_Mine_86_GTSend a Private Message to Finally_Mine_86_GTDirect Link to This Post
i run avast on my moms pc with good results.
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Report this Post10-13-2007 04:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gokart MozartClick Here to visit Gokart Mozart's HomePageSend a Private Message to Gokart MozartDirect Link to This Post
If she wants one quick, go to a NASCAR race... (sorry)
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Report this Post10-13-2007 04:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Finally_Mine_86_GTSend a Private Message to Finally_Mine_86_GTDirect Link to This Post
lmao... you couldn't help it could you?
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Report this Post10-13-2007 06:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kwagnerClick Here to visit kwagner's HomePageSend a Private Message to kwagnerDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

WinXP has a built-in firewall. So there's no need to install ZoneAlarm.



I don't really care for ZoneAlarm personally, but it does block outgoing connections in addition to incoming, while the built in firewall only blocks incoming.

 
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With the exception of some Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP) messages, Windows Firewall does not drop outgoing traffic.


http://technet.microsoft.co...ibrary/bb490861.aspx

The importance of this is you can see if there's any rogue apps on your machine trying to contact some server for whatever reason (sending personal info, spamming, joining a botnet, etc), whereas you don't have that option with the built-in one.
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Report this Post10-14-2007 01:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JZeFFSend a Private Message to JZeFFDirect Link to This Post
Im using the same security he originally stated and ive been virus free for a little over a year. It just takes a little bit of knowledge to avoid them in my opinion.
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Report this Post10-14-2007 02:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
I used to just use AVG and Spybot Search and Destroy, but Trend Micro Antivirus would usually catch a FEW things AVG missed. Since then I just Trend Micro and SSaD.

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

The antivirus is always on, and I run SSaD weekly
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Report this Post10-14-2007 02:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JZeFF:
Im using the same security he originally stated and ive been virus free for a little over a year. It just takes a little bit of knowledge to avoid them in my opinion.


there's the rub.
mu mother will not stay away from those dang poker websites.
it's worse than looking a free p0rn, as far as getting junk.
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Report this Post10-14-2007 08:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for kwagnerClick Here to visit kwagner's HomePageSend a Private Message to kwagnerDirect Link to This Post
Well then you are fighting a losing battle. Things like antivirus and antispyware are mostly reactive utilities, keeping a database of known bad stuff to eliminate, and relying on heuristics to detect anything new. The malware that is out there today is more sophisticated than ever, and most of the new stuff gets around any prediction attempts by software. No single piece of software is a "silver bullet", as some have found (one program would find stuff others didn't, which is also the case vice versa for other malware). Some malware now will even disable your utilities once it is on your computer, then download more bad software on its own to keep the infection going. Without education and effort on the part of the user, they are doomed to never having a healthy pc for any tolerable length of time.
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