Galactica finds Eye of Jupiter and more clues to Earth.
More soap opera dreg so far.
The show has only been picked up for 13 episodes next year.
This may mean they are being given an opportunity to do more quality shows with less soap filler or the Sci Fi Channel has the show on "probation."
Get better ratings or be gone.
Just my opinion. But this show has slowed down and gotten bogged by the drama. OK, it's supposed to be a sci fi drama, but give us more sci fi and less drama please!
Heard a rumor elsewhere that if Sci Fi drops Galactica, which may happen, they intend to replace it with Torchwood and combine the Doctor Who/Torchwood episodes to fill out the hole created by the Galactica. This would not be great, because, and I hate to admit it, Torchwood's not that good (lots of drama and relationship BS like Galactica)
Interestingly the network is currently planning a spin off of BSG called Caprica. A prequel to the current series (which would be even more soap opera than BSG). They may fill the remaining 13 episode time slots with this show.
BTW: Stargate SG1 ends this year on Sci Fi. There will be two made for TV movies. One will finish out the Ori story line and the other deals with the Goauld and time travel. Looks like Sci Fi has yet another hole to fill. Maybe wrestling will step in ? **moans**
Have not heard ANYTHING about Eureka returning.
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10:38 AM
Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I've also heard that they're pretty close to finding earth and winding up the series. They may be looking for filler eps to milk the series for money as long as they can. Apparently Ron Moore doesn't do too bad when he's reimagining someone else's stories, but coming up with his own seems to be a bit lacking.
The Admiral Cain / Pegasus story line was great. Took good queues from the original series and made it an original story. They need another story arc like that - that doesn't necessarily lead towards earth, but that brings it's own drama to the story. As far out as they are now, running into another human ship seems unlikely.
They still haven't redone "The Gun on Ice Planet Zero."
The podcasts suggest there's a larger story arc coming - having to do with Baltar's trial and Starbuck's "destiny" but since we're already 15 episodes into Season 3, he best get on with it.
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Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
I love the idea of Battlestar Gallactica but I said way back at the beginning after the pilot aired that I did not have much interest in the characters. They are all cliche' rah rah military stereotypes instead of real people. The cigar smoking FEMALE Starbuck....yeah, right. Here is a character people can identify with.
They need character growth REALLY REALLY badly in this series cause I could give a frack at this point if any one of them were killed off. And that ain't good news for a series.
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Todd, that's half the point.. they're wannabe rah rah military types.. and there isnt one character on there that doesn't have "issues" Starbuck.. tough badass chick who flakes out every other epsiode. Hell GI Jane was more believable.
Last nights ep? WTF.. Now Momma Adama is a boozing child abuser?.. No not enough that she's dead.. let's give her issues too. Callie and the Chief fighting with each other..
The most stable relationship on the show is between the toaster and Helo.. Oh goodie 49 days since the last cylon sighting.. While nice in the "real" sense.. makes for boring TV. About the only thing that has remained good is the visual effects, but they've been cut way back (read expensive).
Other things that have bugged me.. Get a damn military advisor!.. when they were screwing around the temple the skirmishes with the cans didn't make much sense and cylon tactics suck. Cylons should be more like the original Borg.. they don't care/feel anything, they just keep coming. Think it was in the begining of season 2 where they had to keep jumping every 60 min or so Excellent ep.. hard to keep up, but this As the Battlestar turns crap is getting really really old.
Season 2 Of Eureka will be out this summer Season 1 only had 12 or 13 episodes, but it quickly became my favorite show. I am really sorry to hear that Torchwood is so bad I was really looking forward to watching it.
The Trial may be a painful experience. Ok, yes, we WILL see Apollo redefine himself, it will no doubt make us ponder a bunch of stuff... but I hope they don't drag it out too long.
They can't just keep doing the season one and two cylon and viper space action, but I miss it a little. I'll admit it, I'm a sucker for that "zoomy camera" stuff.
I hope the show is around till the end, and I hope the journey continues to be enjoyable.
I liked being in Baltars's head, but If the trial lasts more then two episodes, that would be painful to watch... It would be cool to see him grow a pair of balls, though. he was kinda a weenie when he was over there with the cylons...I know that was basically the way he acted since the miniseries, but it really stood out when he was over there, in that minimalist environment...
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Rumor, you seem to have an "in" with a BSG muckity muck. Has there been any talk about how long BSG was assumed to run? You know, like the Star Trek series were all intended to run 7 seasons. What's the plan for BSG?
the recent filler makes it seem almost like they have the opposite problem that Bab5 had. as you may remember, B5 had to wrap its main arc in the fourth season, because it wasn't until nearly the end of that season that they finally got a contract for a fifth. BG gives the impression of trying to pad what was only conceived as a 2-3 season arc. things should have really kept moving when they got off new caprica. it's like they want this season to just be over, so they can finally advance the story next season.
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fierobear Member
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Assuming they find Earth, will they arrive in our past, present or future? What do you think they will find?
What do you think the connection is between the cylons and humans, with respect to the 13th colony and the "final 5"? I suspect there is some kind of surprise lurking there.
Rumor, you seem to have an "in" with a BSG muckity muck. Has there been any talk about how long BSG was assumed to run? You know, like the Star Trek series were all intended to run 7 seasons. What's the plan for BSG?
Ron stopped taking to me after I killed his plants.
I would say that the answer lies in the number we have been seeing a LOT of lately...
(But... that may be JUST A RUMOR...)
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fierobear Member
Posts: 27106 From: Safe in the Carolinas Registered: Aug 2000
I guess we see that differently. There have been some good episodes, especially the season finale and the one with the cannibals - spoiler ahead............... ................
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(what a twist - no aliens, just demented humans). Overall though I saw a whole lot of who's snogging who kind of thing going on, which is typical for BBC3. Overall it is much better than BSG, but still a lot of soap. The Cyberwoman episode was good, but still a lot of soap thrown in.
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tutnkmn Member
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Assuming they find Earth, will they arrive in our past, present or future? What do you think they will find?
What do you think the connection is between the cylons and humans, with respect to the 13th colony and the "final 5"? I suspect there is some kind of surprise lurking there.
I would like to speculate that they arrive in the present. The original series concluded with the awful Galactica 1980 which ended the Galactica up in the present. In Galactica 1980 they had to wait and help us advance our technology to the point we could help them. With the new Galactica the only real difference I see in tech is the fact that they have FTL drive. Their planes are not that much better than our current fighters (except they operate in space as well as atmosphere). Their computers are at a level about on par with ours (our weakness would be the networked nature of our computers). Their stuff is not that much advanced over ours.
I think the USAF could easily defend us from Cylon raiders. And, like the Colonials, we have nukes. They did not give them exotic "antimatter" weapons or such foo foo.
I would love to see ICBMs launching from the US, Russia and China and slamming into Cylon baseships
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i think that they arrive in our own mythic past, that the original colonists don't survive, and that we are the hybrid descendants, who remember the cylons as gods.
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tutnkmn Member
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If they arrive in the future the first contact they are likely to have with us is running into an Earth deep space cruiser. That would be cool. "What ship is that? Is it Cylon?"
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fierobear Member
Posts: 27106 From: Safe in the Carolinas Registered: Aug 2000
If they arrive in the future the first contact they are likely to have with us is running into an Earth deep space cruiser. That would be cool. "What ship is that? Is it Cylon?"
Maybe they'll encounter the Event Horizon?
Good point about the nukes. Adama said the size of one of the nukes used on Caprica City was about 50 Megaton. The U.S.S.R. has already test detonated a 50 Mt weapon, that was supposed to have the capability of up to a 100 Mt yield.
The computer technology is hard to quantify. How "fast" are their computers. How do they think? Just seeing the difference between a Pentium 4 and Athlon64 shows that clock speed doesn't mean everything. HOW it processes is even more important.
As for the Vipers, we have no idea how fast they can go or how they can maneuver, either. Watching a dogfight between two WWII aircraft doesn't look that different than a dogfight between two modern jets - but the speeds and distances covered are vastly different. Put a P51 up against an F22 and the differences are readily apparent. Vipers could be as far above an F22 as the F22 is above the Wright Flyer.
To Ron Moore's credit, he's not explained much technology on the show - that was a big problem on Trek where they sometimes spent more time dealing with technobabble than the story. That also means we really don't have much information to make a comparison.
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Formula88 Member
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One thing I am trying to figure out is - why did the 13th colony do all this fancy and cryptic stuff that leads to Earth?
It might not be cryptic - to them. The Pythian Scrolls may be a plain as day explanation when written, but changes in language, etc. over time make it harder to follow. Look at the Bible and if you accept it as completely true, it's still an account written by people centuries ago in foreign languages. Biblical scholars can't agree on the meaning of a lot of the passages, regardless of whether or not they believe it.
The Colonial religion could be similar.
Also, if we go back to the intro to the original series, they suggest the 13th tribe could have been the forerunners of the "Egyptians, or the Mayans, or the Toltecs." If that's the case, and given Galactica said the Temple of the Five was over 4000 years old, they could be roughly modern day - give or take a few centuries.
Maybe they show up in the 1800's and decide to not stop? Maybe it was a Raptor that landed at Roswell, NM? Maybe they'll run into the Enterprise in the 24th century? That's only a 500 year range.
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tutnkmn Member
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Originally posted by Formula88: Also, if we go back to the intro to the original series, they suggest the 13th tribe could have been the forerunners of the "Egyptians, or the Mayans, or the Toltecs." If that's the case, and given Galactica said the Temple of the Five was over 4000 years old, they could be roughly modern day - give or take a few centuries.
That has baffled me. Why did the producers and writers decide on a Greek storyline (except for the names in the original series, i.e. Athena, Apollo, etc.)? Almost everything else in TOS pointed to an Egyptian background. Guess they did not want to look too much like Stargate
Still, Greek culture is nowhere near as old as Egyptian or Chinese culture and civilization (both nearly 5000 years old now). Unless Egypt, China and later Greece all descended from an earlier, more advanced technological civilization (Atlantis maybe?). But if so that puts the original settling of Earth back between 5000 and 10000 years ago. This would make the Galactica reach Earth (by comparing time to mythology and history and the idea the Temple of the Five was built 4000 years ago Galactica time) around the time of Christ through the middle ages. Of course there is always near light speed time dilation to consider...................