It looks as though you may have called it, Doc. So far, no ones bought the film for distribution.

http://www.ew.com/ew/articl...81_20009564_,00.html

If I was her parent.. she would not be doing that.. but it appears her parents put $$ above their daughter..

Or independance, individuality, and artistic integrity...

I don't think this much of a stink was brought up about the movie A Time To Kill.In it a young girl was raped then hung and left for dead.Must be just me but all this controvercy is getting to become old much like the Trump-O'Donall fiasco.

quote Originally posted by Jermz238: same in this case. you see "a hand hit the ground, a zipper zip, and a scream" and all you see is her face and hand. you dont really see what is going on, but you know whats happening.

Because you have a dirty imagination...

Sorry that was just to good to let slide by.

This whole thing is acted out almost daily on tv shows, including the conservative " Lifetime " channel. There are lots more movies than have been shown doing the same exact thing. Nickolas Cages ' 8 MM ' comes to mind where quite a few minor girls are abused and murdered by an S&M cult. Another recent tv movie that got a lot of positive publicity has been on several times called ' Human Trafficing ' where it depicts children from ages 10 and up being forced into prostitution. One scene in particular shows a 13 year old girl jumping out of a window and killing herself after being forced to perform an act on her knees....and the scene left very little to the imagination. The producer of that show was applauded.

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Another Artsy statement I suppose. There are way too many sick individuals out there. When we start accepting this kind of thing as the norm, as being ok, we have taken another step down the ladder of culture. Ourr children represent one of the few opportunities we have in life to leave this world better than when we got here. We are failing miserably.

Exactly my point. This kind of thing is being accepted as the norm.

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quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: This whole thing is acted out almost daily on tv shows, including the conservative " Lifetime " channel. The producer of that show was applauded.

Well, that highlights the problem. Content on "Lifetime" channel is conservative? (I don't know. I don't get cable.) Roger, think back to when you and I were about 10. That content wouldn't have been even close to being considered conservative.

Regarding the producer of that show being applauded--if your point is the inconsistency of the outrage I would say, "yeah." So what I am hearing is this message: be vocal about the outrage on every occurence because if there isn't, then we are going to consider silence on a topic as not caring about it and condoning it.

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: Its a movie. Brook Shields done the same thing 40 years ago, not a big deal. (Pretty Baby).

It was a huge deal. Pretty Baby has been banned and outlawed. It is illegal to sell or acquire, but if you already own it, you are grandfathered in. It is officially labled as child p..., too.

Back on topic, this new movie is "just a movie," but that doesn't mean people can't have a concern about it. "If you don't like it, then don't watch it" isn't as clear-cut and simple as it used to be.

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quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: So what I am hearing is this message: be vocal about the outrage on every occurence because if there isn't, then we are going to consider silence on a topic as not caring about it and condoning it.

Unfortunately, that seems to be the case these days. We can only hope that, in time, people can once again disassociate silence with agreement or acceptance, but as it stands, thats how its interpreted. You're with us or you're against us.

Hey, rogergarrison. Just to be clear, too, I'm not arguing or debating your viewpoint at all. I hear it and appreciate it. You've been around long enough to have a historical perspective. So my comments weren't "aimed" at you so much as your observation of the SOCIETY you (and I) have lived in over that time.

No offense taken...it is just my viewpoint. Lifetime is ' mostly ' a channel for families. A lot of the made for tv movies on it are like afterschool specials from the old days. They try to get stories pertaining to real life, whether or not they are actually true stories. The case of the Texas cheerleaders mom who tried to have her rival killed is typical of shows on it. Also had the one about the 3 girls who beat their friend to death and left her dead in a creek with one of them trying to take her place. The trafficing movie supplied an 800 number and brought a lot of attention to the public about how it does exist, and had gone on relatively unknown. I personally think thats what happened to the girl who turned up missing in Aruba. I was amazed that talking about it at the restaurant, not one of the girls there even knew trafficing existed either. Yes, when I was younger things were a LOT stricter about everything. I was even dragged into my high school pricipals office by my parents when they found out we were reading Silas Marner and Catcher in the Rye in english glass....that was then considered **** then by a lot of parents. As for Pretty Baby with Brooke Shields, I recently purchased it myself from a video store, so I dont think its banned. Brooke has also done quite well after making it. You may be thinking of Tracy Lords who illegally made real XX stuff when she lied at 16...which is banned as child Po. Sorry, your not going to convince me its anything more than just another movie....which I prob wont bother to see anyway.

This has got to be a joke.

quote From the link: Now the Catholic League For Religious And Civil Rights has organized a petition to have the film banned. Bill Donohoe, the organization's director, says, "How can we celebrate pedophilia in this so-called artistic way? Five or six years ago this girl was on a tricycle. There has to be some line of decency which Hollywood will not cross."

Perhaps they could concentrate on getting rid of the twisted perverts wearing the white collars in their own churches before they look elsewhere for perceived problems.

LMAO..........very good point.

quote Originally posted by SonataInFSharp: It was a huge deal. Pretty Baby has been banned and outlawed. It is illegal to sell or acquire, but if you already own it, you are grandfathered in. It is officially labled as child p..., too. Back on topic, this new movie is "just a movie," but that doesn't mean people can't have a concern about it. "If you don't like it, then don't watch it" isn't as clear-cut and simple as it used to be.

Pretty Baby is available right now on Frys.com for about $9.........

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"pretty baby" is a good example of the weird paradox of prurience and prudery in this culture. the film would have been a lot more interesting, if a lot less controversial and thus a lot less commercially viable, if it had actually been about the life and times of e.j. bellocq, rather than a gauzy, titillating, period-pretentious "lolita" (a film which stands quite well on its own).

(i swear the alliteration wasn't deliberate.)

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Hmm. This movie fiasco reminds me of something. If you decide to go and see the movie, check the seat first before you sit down and make sure you don't shake hands with anybody.

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"It's not really happening. It's a movie, and it's called acting. I'm not going through anything."
- Dakota Fanning, actress

quote Originally posted by SC Coupe: "It's not really happening. It's a movie, and it's called acting. I'm not going through anything." - Dakota Fanning, actress

Obviously, this is from a 12 year old who has matured well beyond her years. Yes, I'm sure she understands all the implications associated with this scene. Not intended as a flame, just an observation.

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My imagination is the only limiting factor to my Fiero. Well, there is that money issue.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: It only took how many hundred years for that to happen?

your point being?

If no one comes forward to accuse rapists how are authorities to know anything is wrong?

Like I said, WHEN we found out, the uproar was heard.

Just like it is now with Dakota Fanning. I doubt this will be big news 15 years from now either.

Prob no one will remember it a week after the movie goes public.

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: Prob no one will remember it a week after the movie goes public.

The movie, I predict will have a very short life on the big screen but will live on, in the rental sections. Look for the guy who's salivating at the check out counter, hehe.

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quote Originally posted by Toddster: your point being? If no one comes forward to accuse rapists how are authorities to know anything is wrong? Like I said, WHEN we found out, the uproar was heard.

Yeah right, for hundreds of years no one ever complained about what the friggen pedophile priests were doing to young boys.

Maybe if we pretend long enough, it'll all just go away....

Tell me Todd, what's your affiliation with the Catholic church?

quote Originally posted by Phranc: Was she really raped or was it acting? (rhetorical question)

Its not as rhetorical as you think. I would be willing to bet she was emotionally raped in the process. that cant be healthy to even 'act' a scene like that at her age. Sure its one think to know that stuff happens, but to actually pretend ( hours upon hours to get it right, it is acting you know... ) at that level of intensity would have left scars. For anyone, let alone a 12 year old.

Kids play cowboys and indians too. Never seen any tramatized by it or have nitemares about being scalped. lol. I played Davey Crockett in school when I was a kid, after it was done, I didnt have any urge to go hunt for barr (bear). I knew it was acting and I wasnt even 10.

quote Originally posted by User00013170: Its not as rhetorical as you think. I would be willing to bet she was emotionally raped in the process. that cant be healthy to even 'act' a scene like that at her age. Sure its one think to know that stuff happens, but to actually pretend ( hours upon hours to get it right, it is acting you know... ) at that level of intensity would have left scars. For anyone, let alone a 12 year old.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Go back and read some of the quotes from news stories. It wasn't graphic at all. A shot of her hands, a shot of her face, a shot of a zipper being undone, and her yelling no. She wouldn't need to be disrobed or even in the same room as a male actor to do that.

quote Originally posted by Rodrv6: Pretty Baby is available right now on Frys.com for about $9.........

Interesting; I just saw a show on PBS about Pretty Baby and other similar films--the program aired around August/September or so. I wonder if PBS had bad information or if there are work-arounds or something. Anyway, PBS clearly said that the film is illegal to sell or acquire, so now I am very curious.

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An uproar. LOL.

People have waayy too much time on their hands to be upset over a movie when the country is in the condition its in.

But all in all, Id bang her.

Maybe its illegal somewhere, or some stores choose not to sell it. But I just walked in a Hollywood Video store and bought it for $10. You do have a right to not sell something. Last week I took a pic of Britney I had to get a large blow up done (5X2 feet) and this one graphics printer wouldnt do it because he has a 15 year old daughter , but I respect his right. Just went down the street to another and got it done.

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quote Originally posted by DemonDriver1: People have waayy too much time on their hands to be upset over a movie when the country is in the condition its in. But all in all, Id bang her.

You'd "bang" a 12 year old girl, eh?

Sounds like you've got "waayy too much time" on your hands.