Not sure how many people here know... i've been out of work for a while now all due to being layed off from the all mighty IBM. I have been searching for a job this entire time with no relief in sight. i think i've spent more on paper and faxes of my resume then i have made from unemployment. At this particular time in my life I honestly don't care if i have to move out of state to get something decent. Is there anybody here who is hiring anywhere in the US? If you are or somebody you know please help. I really don't want to post my resume here on an open forum but if you are serious and can possibly help let me know in a PM and i will be more then happy to send it to you. Thank you everybody for your time.

Shoot me a line.. just need to know what you do.

http://www.digitalriver.com/corporate/company04...

Depending on what you do I may be able to drop your app in the fast track.

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http://www.dstsystems.com/cr/crhm.html

long shot but might check them out? no i don't work there but know a couple of people who do.

good luck.

What kind of job are you looking for?

Search for jobs in Raleigh or Durham NC. All I know is I do alot of work on million dollar houses and the owners always work for IBM, CISCO, SAS INSTITUTE, ect.

Well the list is huge but I’m kind of like a jack of all trades master of none sort of deal. Primarily I went to trade school for automotive. Majored in computer science in high school. Worked on printed circuit board manufacturing for IBM. I've worked as, a professional custom audio installer, security system installations, small amounts of carpentry + plumbing, machine operator, test tech at IBM for the production boards (genrad, ICT, NGS, and functional tests), fork lift operator and mechanic, I can go on and on almost all day here typing all this out. Point is I’ve done a lot and I learn so fast it sickens some people. There honestly is not a lot I can't do. Right now I’m trying to learn g+m code, AutoCAD 3d, Photoshop, mandarin Chinese and Hindi all at the same time... yes its working. Right now the code is hard to apply due to me not owning a c+c. I'm pretty good with fiberglass and carbon fiber. Not a master but I’m getting there.

I have found that listing a lot of different skills will do just the opposite of what you would think. You need to tailor your resume to the job you want to get. Even if you have to create 2 or 3 of them. I have also done a lot of different jobs. Like you I have been able to do well in those thinks I have tried to do but never reached a status that would be called master of it. I work with computers now and that is the only thing I list on my resume but I have done carpentry and welding with a splash of fiberglass repair.

What do you want to do? Having a goal is important, if you want to work with computers as an example you need to start putting a good amount of time into it. Don’t be afraid to start lower than you want. Sometimes a foot in the door is worth it in the long run. When I decided to start working in the computer field I lived and breathed computers. I had a Novel network setup in my home back in 1998 that was better than most small businesses. My wife wanted to chuck it an me out of the house as I would drag anything computer related home and try to make it work.

Wish I could help with a job but I will send some good vibes your way.
Good luck to you.

quote Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT: Well the list is huge but I’m kind of like a jack of all trades master of none sort of deal. Primarily I went to trade school for automotive. Majored in computer science in high school. Worked on printed circuit board manufacturing for IBM. I've worked as, a professional custom audio installer, security system installations, small amounts of carpentry + plumbing, machine operator, test tech at IBM for the production boards (genrad, ICT, NGS, and functional tests), fork lift operator and mechanic, I can go on and on almost all day here typing all this out. Point is I’ve done a lot and I learn so fast it sickens some people. There honestly is not a lot I can't do. Right now I’m trying to learn g+m code, AutoCAD 3d, Photoshop, mandarin Chinese and Hindi all at the same time... yes its working. Right now the code is hard to apply due to me not owning a c+c. I'm pretty good with fiberglass and carbon fiber. Not a master but I’m getting there.

Well Jack, If you really are that fast a learner how come you are still out of work?

quote Originally posted by wiley90: Well Jack, If you really are that fast a learner how come you are still out of work?

I was trying to figure out a nice way to say the same thing myself. Did you look into another job within IBM before you left?

Tim

because new york is so damn dry for work it's really sad... if it costs $25 to make in ny it's only going to cost $15 some place else including shipping. it's call outsourcing, thats why i'm here doing this. most excuses i got from places i interveiwed was either i was over qualified or under qualified... lines of B.S. frankly i'm getting sick of new york and it's downward spirial staircase they call civilization. New York is going in the crapper and and honestly i don't want to be here when somebody pulls the handle. So please do me a favor and leave if you can't be productive in my quest to find a decent job. If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. remember that!

Jake_Dragon - sorry i'm getting a little heated trying to explain myself and things around me instead of being productive. I do know about the multiple resume's. I've done about 30 of them along with all different cover letters. I would love to go back to the custom audio installations. that was fun but very little money in it. Besides there are no openings anywhere near where i live. I don't know of any at all for that matter. I too am a computer nut but i like to keep that on the side. If i get burnt out from it i can just walk away. Really i wouldn't mind just going back to the automotive field but here in ny there isn't much out there. I finished the trade school but they never offered the ASE certs so... i never bothered when i got the job at IBM i thought i would be there for a long time... how wrong i was.

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quote Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT: Not sure how many people here know... i've been out of work for a while now all due to being layed off from the all mighty IBM. I have been searching for a job this entire time with no relief in sight. i think i've spent more on paper and faxes of my resume then i have made from unemployment. At this particular time in my life I honestly don't care if i have to move out of state to get something decent. Is there anybody here who is hiring anywhere in the US? If you are or somebody you know please help. I really don't want to post my resume here on an open forum but if you are serious and can possibly help let me know in a PM and i will be more then happy to send it to you. Thank you everybody for your time.

Would you be willing to learn and use Linux and Mac OS as well as Windows?

quote Originally posted by FrugalFiero: I was trying to figure out a nice way to say the same thing myself. Did you look into another job within IBM before you left? Tim

yup... been there tried that... everything i'm "qualified" to do in IBM is getting outsourced withing two years and they refuse to hire because of it.

quote Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT: yup... been there tried that... everything i'm "qualified" to do in IBM is getting outsourced withing two years and they refuse to hire because of it.

Having had to call tech support at IBM before I can see why. Its like your bothering them some how and they just want to get rid of you. HP support is always helpful, even the ones you know are over seas and glad to talk to you.
Anyway good luck

quote Originally posted by Finally_Mine_86_GT: sure.. i'm pretty good with os2 mac and red hat linux

PM sent

The computer industry is going the way of the auto industry.

Outsourcing, Outsourcing, Outsourcing.

Or

Overseas, Overseas, Overseas.

And the computer industry is doing it faster than the auto industry ever did.

Sorry can’t help in finding a job there, now if you can weld?

I know a dozen companies that will higher you up and down the eastern seaboard.

Do yourself a favor and get out before the bottom drops out, find a trade they can’t outsource or offshore. But wait no that won’t work because of illegal Aliens. So just admit it, we have allowed the corporations to ship all the good paying jobs elsewhere or brought in Illegals to do the work for less.

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quote Originally posted by WBailey1041: Search for jobs in Raleigh or Durham NC. All I know is I do alot of work on million dollar houses and the owners always work for IBM, CISCO, SAS INSTITUTE, ect.

The Research Triangle Park / Raleigh-Durham area is like Silicon Valley East. The problem is, there's a huge concentration of qualified people here, too. There are jobs, but we've also got one of the highest concentrations of PhD's per capita in the nation. But there's also a large IBM contingent here, so that might help. Be prepared for a lot of job competition with anything technical. The pharmaceutical industry is probably the fastest growing around here.

If you want to get into Aircraft Manufacturing there's plenty of jobs where I'm at.

It's not glamorus but it pays really well.

http://www.cessna.com/
http://www.spiritaero.com/
http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id=3_0&lang...
http://www.raytheonaircraft.com/rac/Default.aspx
http://www.airbusnorthamerica.com/
http://www.boeing.com/

I feel your pain. I was a contrator from Grumman working at the IBM Poughkeepsie plant ,doing maintenance on the Electron beam lithography machines, back in '89. My employment there was terminated after being there for almost 3 years as a Senior Mechanical Engineer.
I now live and work in CT in our family owned injection molding business that my father started back then. I joined him to help get the business going and growing and I'm still there. I now am one of the vice presidents of the company after starting as a floor worker.
High paying technical jobs in New York have been hard to find since back then. You could always try looking for a job at one of the area power plants. My best friend works for one and his pay and benefits are comparable to mine. The only thing is that he works a rotating shift. If you can stand something like that, it is worth a try.

quote Originally posted by wiley90: Well Jack, If you really are that fast a learner how come you are still out of work?

Probably for the same reason I am. I call it "Too smart to work at McDonald's, but not certified enough to work at CompUSA". You guys that already have well-paying jobs are damn lucky... >.<

Seems that nowadays the only jobs you can get are from "friends" on the inside... make friends with a manager somewhere and that's the only shot you've got. Or be friends with someone who is related to the manager of something. Otherwise you may as well be handing out your resume and tediously-completed applications to a paper shredder...

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quote Originally posted by Falcon4: Probably for the same reason I am. I call it "Too smart to work at McDonald's, but not certified enough to work at CompUSA". You guys that already have well-paying jobs are damn lucky... >.< Seems that nowadays the only jobs you can get are from "friends" on the inside... make friends with a manager somewhere and that's the only shot you've got. Or be friends with someone who is related to the manager of something. Otherwise you may as well be handing out your resume and tediously-completed applications to a paper shredder...

so that's it? people who have good jobs are lucky and those who don't are just unlucky? its not because of hard work, knowledge and sacrifice? just luck and who you know?

so much for free will huh?

Apparently so. It's all about either how much a tax break you give your employer ("minorities" and low income welfare leechers, anyone?) or who you know.

Have to agree with Falcon4 on this one.

Moved down here to Frisco, TX, after taking care of my parents who retired into Southern Utah for a couple of years.

I have over twenty years in various financial and treasury management positions and was a VP at my last company.

But, the headhunters keep telling me I am going to be hard to place. Why?

Because companies won't touch me for an analyst position because of my management background. Yet, they won't hire me into a management position because I don't have their specific industry experience.

Catch 22. So, I keep hoping to find a company that thinks "outside the box" and realizes that my skills are very transferable.

Chris

wow... i agree with falcon4 here... didn't see that one coming. ... avengador1 ... is your company hiring for florr workers? i don't believe your that far from me and a move to ct would be an easy one.
Wichita ... i'm going to look into those in the morning when i have time to devote to the search. thank you.
Sostock ... now in this day & age that's how it is... if your super qualified for a job people over look you and if your under qualified they still over look you. the only time you'll get a decent job in new york anyway is if your just right for the job... that's it! unless you want to work for free for a few years being a lackie for somebody... i think they call it being an intern. not trying to be mean or too pig headed but i'm pretty sure it's the same almost everywhere. there have been exceptions to the rule but so far from what i've seen and heard that's it.

I'm sorry but we are not hiring at the moment. I used to live in New Windsor and had a one way 75 mile commute to Bridgeport, CT. for 6 years. I did this till I saved enough to put a downpayment on a house here. You can email me your resume so I can see what your qualifications and wage requirements are and see if we have anything open in the future.

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Yep, found out the hard way you can promote yourself right out of a job. I wish I could help you find something but, all I can suggest is they are looking for people to go down to New Orleans and help out, I least that's what I hear.

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I'd agree that the job market anywhere is tough if your looking to do more than sweep a floor or stock groceries.

All I can suggest is Craig's list, Monster (a waste of time for me), and if your active in any forums, especially ones related to your industry... stay involved and post that your available. Getting 'lucky' is often more of building a good reputation and knowing how to capitalize on it. Also, it didn't work for me.. but check out job placement agencies that specialize in your industry. My father used them prior to retirement as a senior engineer, and that got some of his good leads, but it was his reputation as someone that went above and beyond that got his last couple of jobs. While at a job, consider your impact on the industry... try to get to know the movers, and your peers. What you do to improve your industry, your community, your impact on other people... those are all big assets. Often much more important than your certifications, specific experience. I think my new job was clinched by being very active in my industry... I'm an automotive mechanic, but I'm involved with a local technical college, with community groups, have given a bunch of feedback and attended training and meetings for EPA, dealer techs etc... all stuff done on my time to help improve myself and my industry. My new job is working on mostly high end Euro vehicles... something I have very littel experience with outside of reading. But my past shows I can and will jump in and bring myself up to speed, will ask the right questions, and shows a set of ethics and ability to work well with others. That can trump the guy with 20 years euro experience that whines and complains, wants to only work on what he knows etc...

Let your prospective employers know you want a challenge and to make them money. The ones worth having will respond to that. Use ANY contacts you've made in the past for leads, for letters of recommendation, get permission to use people as recommendations and ask what they will say... some will even want you to prime them with what you want said.

The jobs where a billion people apply, there is a long process, multiple lists and interviews... can work if you already have a job making you money and can wait for the lack of a response or the notification that other avenues are being explored. Try to figure out what contacts you may have and use them. If there is someone your really want to work for, politely bug the crap out of them.

well sheeeit. i guess i'm just lucky.

i've always said that between the two, i'd rather be lucky than smart. guess it paid off!

Hey here is an idea for ya. You might even decide to make it permanent.

I do a lot of things but what I do that makes me money when I don't have big jobs is handyman service.
Yes lowly handyman stuff.
Small ad gets you calls all the time. I charge 75 bucks an hour and a two hour minimum.
I don't take all jobs as some times I refer my customers to friends that can do a particular job faster and cheaper. This works out well because these people will call you back time and time again.
Most of the time it is simple stuff like faucets leaking or plugs and switches not working. Some times it isn't easy but your getting paid well so big deal. People will pay 150 bucks to solve a problem they can't do.
Hell sometimes I finish in just a few minutes and ask if there is anything else they can think of that needs to be done. heck man you can even clean their computer. De frag it , spam it whatever. make them happy and you got money.

This works for anyone capable of multiple skills. You sound like this kind of person.

I sure as hell am... but people actually look in the newspaper for those kinds of jobs??!! You can't be serious, can you? O_O

i was trying to be fairly kosher but i can't help but speak my mind.

i'm not aiming this towards everyone but....get off your ass and get a job. shut up. i don't want to hear it. i'm not going to tell you my sob story and i don't want to hear yours.

do what you have to and survive. always look for something else, a better deal. those who can do, those who can't whine about it.

quote Originally posted by sostock: i was trying to be fairly kosher but i can't help but speak my mind. i'm not aiming this towards everyone but....get off your ass and get a job. shut up. i don't want to hear it. i'm not going to tell you my sob story and i don't want to hear yours. do what you have to and survive. always look for something else, a better deal. those who can do, those who can't whine about it.

Well said!

JUST KEEP TRYING TO MOVE THAT MOUNTAIN WITH YOUR MIND! HRRRRRRRGHHHH!!!! DON'T TELL ME YOU CAN'T DO IT! IT JUST TAKES WILL POWER!!!

quote Originally posted by Falcon4: "Too smart to work at McDonald's, but not certified enough to work at CompUSA".

heh....my dad has a saying. Second class transportation beats first class walking.
Seems to me second class wages beat first class poverty.

When my wife and I moved to Ohio from Minnesota, I had to find a job (of course).

In MN I was making $15/hr at my first job full time and $22/hr at my second job part time.

After 9 months of searching and whining I had to "settle" for a job at Best Buy making less than $10/hr. I was a 27 year old man and came home crying to my wife every day because I hated working there THAT much, but I got through it for 6 months until we moved home (for other reasons).

It was better than nothing and I was still looking for work that better suited me at the same time.

On the other hand, when my dad was out of work, he bragged that he could do "just about anything" but wouldn't take a job unless is paid more than the job he had left (by his choice). By reason of miracle, after living off other people and whining about it for a few years, he actually found a job doing the same thing he has always done at a better salary than at the job he had left.

quote Originally posted by SonataInFSharp: By reason of miracle, after living off other people and whining about it for a few years........

Seems like quite a few believe in miracles.

I understand where you are coming from completely.There is nothing here in New York for jobs and even more jobs being slashed.This state is a joke and it is not a very funny one either.I have been unemployed for over a year and haven't had much luck either.I am a mechanic but because I don't have a degree or this or that I can't find work.But hey things are looking up for the rich around here at least.

I can relate totally. The job market around here sucks, and employers are taking advantage of it by paying as low of a wage as is legal. Funny how ten years ago I had my choice of jobs paying 13 or 14 bucks an hour, but now, after all of this "economic growth" it's hard to find anything over $7.50 an hour. Last time I was out of work I looked for over a year for a job that paid enough to cover the gas it took to get there. I looked in newspapers, local ad papers, our state job service, placement agencies, knocked on doors, made cold calls, talked to guys in bars, you name it. I submitted about 75 resumes (professionally written) and recieved less than a dozen replies. Most of those were "thanks, but no thanks" replies. I think I had five interviews.
What finally paid off was networking. I swallowed my pride and started telling anyone who would listen how desperately I needed a job and did they know anyone who could get me hooked up. Sort of like what you are doing here. It finally paid off, and besides the fact that I don't make nearly as much as I should at my skill level, I love my job. Just when you are ready to give up things take off.

While I will agree, a certain degree of being in the right place at the right time (luck) can be a factor to specific situations, it isn't a factor between living in a gutter or a house.

True story. I have several friends/ex-coworkers who are *severely* underpaid at their current jobs and complain about their employers. They drive long-ish distances to get to these jobs. Last year my team at work, which is close to their homes and the same duties they perform now, had several openings and I was doing the interviewing to fill the openings. I called, emailed, called again those friends who always complain about their jobs, informing them I was interviewing the positions and starting pay would be 2-3 times their current salary (if they negotiate right), at $80K+. I couldn't get a single one of them to email me a resume. They are still working those same jobs, for the same crappy pay. I just tell them I don't want to hear about it.

You can lead a horse to water...

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