they better not **** this up. i wanna see him die.

hopfully his attorneys don't pull some bullshit to keep him alive longer,


how long tell his hanging video is on the internet. its going on my myspce


see ya sadam! enjoy being the devils ***** !

quote Originally posted by ryan.hess:

Thanks for the snicker.

While justice will be served, I think all it'll end up doing is give the insurgents a battle cry so to speak.

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Does anybody else think that thee is a very small chance, that , terrible as he was, he is the only answer to the problems there?
I know it may be a terrible analogy, but: can you imagine sending , say, the World heavyweight boxing champion into a full-blown riot in Alcatraz, under orders to fight by the Queensberry Rules, against 1000 bloodthirsty, angry and fully armed Murderers? I think it is a fair analogy, but am eager to get your opinions, whatever they are...
Nick

But in order to keep the so-called peace, he had hundreds of thousands murdered. He was a ruthless dictator who ruled by fear and murder. Hopefully the new president will be better and there will be a true peace there without having to wipe out entire generations simply because they don't agree with him. While I do not celebrate any death, I think it'd be so much more dangerous to leave him alive in a jail cell somewhere. If he is to be left alive, he needs to be removed from Iraq and kept in a secured and secret location.

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30 more days tell hanging huh?

I hope I'm off from work?

I wonder will he be fight n' kickin' or take it like a dictator?

I believe that he would try every possible way to take his own life, rather than die at the hands of his enemies, whoever, in his mind, they may be. But I suspect he will be under 24 hour close surveillance, to prevent it happening. It is very easy to take your own life, if you so choose, without any implements, or external aid.
The truth is,IMHO, that NOBODY will ever stop the conflict there..it has been raging, as we all know, for thousands of years. To imagine that it can be stopped is as unrealistic as asking the entire population of Iraq to stop breathing..or eating, or drinking. It is engrained in their Souls...it is as natural to them, as us in the West commuting to work each day.I believe also, that it could not even be stopped, if Jesus Christ and Muhammed were to appear at Mecca, on Easter Sunday, holding hands. Somebody would deny it, and then the War would start all over again. Because it is NOT now about religion, it is about POWER.
Tragically, their have been as many American lives lost in the conflict now, as were killed in the 9/11 horror.Not including civilian deaths, and those of soldiers from other Countries.

Truely sad that any lives have to be lost. But I wonder how many would die had nothing been done after 9/11. Dirty bombs, nukes, chemicals and the like would most likely now be commonly reported as being set off among the populations. If nothing, I believe that the war in Iraq has "called out" those who would've carried out those kinds of attacks on the civilian population and kept them from killing thousands, if not millions, of innocent people.

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Do you think it will be televised on CNN?

Funny thing is...they said the genocide trial would continue...even AFTER the execution.

quote Originally posted by fierofetish: Does anybody else think that thee is a very small chance, that , terrible as he was, he is the only answer to the problems there? I know it may be a terrible analogy, but: can you imagine sending , say, the World heavyweight boxing champion into a full-blown riot in Alcatraz, under orders to fight by the Queensberry Rules, against 1000 bloodthirsty, angry and fully armed Murderers? I think it is a fair analogy, but am eager to get your opinions, whatever they are... Nick

I really hate to agree with this. But I think Nick could be right on this one.

There is no way there will ever be peace in Iraq in the way that we here in America or other democratic countries think of peace.

I order for them to be peaceful they will need as big a nut as Suddam running things. Maybe not as genocidal but just as vicious.

I still say we should have Nuked the whole dam country. Would have saved a lot of American lives and created a nice glass parking lot for the oil workers sent in after the radiation subsides.

Sorry but there is no way Iraq will ever be peaceful, they will always be fighting each other.

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Only available on Viewers Choice Pay Per View. It's the execution you've been waiting for!!!! Saddam meets his maker.... Only on Viewer's Choice.... LOL (joke only)

Why not... The French televise their executions.

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I have been out of touch for a few days but expect that there will be an appeal and that will delay any potential execution date.

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quote Originally posted by fierofetish: Does anybody else think that thee is a very small chance, that , terrible as he was, he is the only answer to the problems there? I know it may be a terrible analogy, but: can you imagine sending , say, the World heavyweight boxing champion into a full-blown riot in Alcatraz, under orders to fight by the Queensberry Rules, against 1000 bloodthirsty, angry and fully armed Murderers? I think it is a fair analogy, but am eager to get your opinions, whatever they are... Nick

Haven't people been trying to ream me for saying that for the last couple of years here? He was the cork in the bottle, and the hardcore death tolls had happened decades earlier as he consolidated power, smacking down the opposition. The country was pretty damn peaceful at the time of the invasion.

One of the reports I read was about the literary centers in towns that for thousands of years through everything in the evenings and weekends after prayers people would gather to buy books, and discuss literature. That is done and gone, your to likely to get blown up in a mass bombing or murdered on your way to or from, so one of the most civilized things about their society that even operated freely under Saddam is history.

The hundreds of civilians a day getting murdered may have initially been glad we came, I was watching a video the other day from a soldier showing how the their attitude and his changed over his tour. They were happy friendly people when he got there and he hated them when he got out because the kids that used to wave and smile were throwing rocks at their convoys and cursing them instead. Here is one of the videos, not work safe due to language. I don't know if the guy taking the video is a contractor or actually military. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5_-RXw8R3A

Can't find the other one now that was a personal perspective, was saddening.

I say instead of hanging him,, just string him up,,,very very slowly. He'll kick and fight alright !!
Yes there is a difference..

quote Originally posted by hnthomps: I have been out of touch for a few days but expect that there will be an appeal and that will delay any potential execution date.

I think it was the appeals court that made the ruling.

Saddam killed people that tried to overtake his regime.

International laws allow for this - IMHO-He 'was' the recognized leader.

But he couldnt keep his mouth shut on Israel and retaliations.

That hangin' judgement must have been thru a funky ass slap together U.S. new Iraqi puppet court.

It will be a battle cry to all those loyal to thier lands and corrupt dictator. The bloodshed will now undoubtly be brought over here.

Its not like we're crystal clean-The U.S. has a long shameful greedy history as much as any other lands.

Again, whats left out of all these discussions on war is financial & human costs.

Many people & banks have made hordes of loot from this Presidents endless money pit endeaver. Hell they even lent Saddam 2 billion prior to invading.


Germany wanted Rumsfeld to also answer for war crimes- Thats one reason he had to go. That and he lost standing w/ top generals.
Hes now busy covering up **** before Congress subpoena's his ass

OUT>

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It was reported that Collin Powell actually called it before the war started, telling Bush, "you break it, you own it" in reference to taking out Saddam and causing a uncontrolable civil war. Saddam decieved the world into thinking that he still WMDs, probalby that threat kept insurections from occurring. I'm not sure how I feel about the hanging, he was an evil man for sure. Will we ever know all of the facts? Is taking out Saddam keeping us safer? Is Saddam's hanging going to promote peace or more violence?

quote Originally posted by 84fiero123: I really hate to agree with this. But I think Nick could be right on this one. There is no way there will ever be peace in Iraq in the way that we here in America or other democratic countries think of peace. I order for them to be peaceful they will need as big a nut as Suddam running things. Maybe not as genocidal but just as vicious. I still say we should have Nuked the whole dam country. Would have saved a lot of American lives and created a nice glass parking lot for the oil workers sent in after the radiation subsides. Sorry but there is no way Iraq will ever be peaceful, they will always be fighting each other.

*im not a bible thumper*

isnt there a verse in the bible about where david or someone was supposed to go into that land and wipe out ALL of those people, but instead he only killed the men, then married into the women!!!! *IF* he would have just done what was asked of him (by God?) we wouldnt be in this mess today, but no he had to have some lady's.......

ill have to see if i can find the verse where it talks about this, but i know one of the people in the bible were supposed to wipe out that entire country.

matthew

I will have the popcorn popped, ready for the show.

I'm just waiting for the ring-side seat tickets to hit eBay.

quote Originally posted by jetman: It was reported that Collin Powell actually called it before the war started, telling Bush, "you break it, you own it" in reference to taking out Saddam and causing a uncontrolable civil war.

H said that to Bush's dad, too, and stopped Schwartzkopf in 1991 from going all the way to Baghdad. So it wasn't anything remarkable Powell said a decade later to now President Bush.


I just met an Iraqi who was in Baghdad in 1991, and moved soon after. In the U.S. for over a decade now. HE says he is ashamed of Iraqi's, and is ashamed that they probably need someone like Hussein in the government because that is the only thing that keeps them from fighting and killing each other.

HOWEVER, it probably isn't necessary to have someone THAT despicable. I am not sure, but I would guess that a somewhat recent history that would be a reasonable facsimile would be Iran under the Shah. I was not paying much attention when I was that age, but in the '70's we backed him and Iran was a pretty quiet place. But I remember reading that the Shah had people killed and it wasn't uncommon. But it was NOWHERE near the scale of Hussein. And that kept the people "quiet". Then the Ayatollah was in power. I'm sure some people died under his rule, but again, I don't remember hearing ANYTHING of the scale of Hussein. Even the Saudi's now. I don't think it is that the Saudi ruling family is popular with the people. I think they kill people to suppress resistance. And yet again, I don't hear ANYTHING on the scale of Hussein. So maybe the Iraqi's DO need a tyrannical leader like other arab countries seem to need. But I would NOT go so far as to say they need one anywhere NEAR close to the way Hussein and his family did things. My conclusion: no, Iraq doesn't need another Hussein or need Hussein himself. But can they handle "democracy"? I'm not so sure of that now.

Gonna turn this in another direction for a minute or so.

Altho, Saddam did gas Kurdish villages killing innocent women and children--that certainly qualified for a crime against humanity.

I'm more left of center than some of you, but I don't cry for the executions of human excrement. I think folks like Ted Bundy actually get off easy with only having to be executed once.

So, it will come as no surprise that I DON'T want Saddam to be executed. As those old western movies used to say "Hangin's too good for him." And if they must hang him, it should be as degrading as possible--hang him in a public square, dressed in a womans dress or better yet, buck neckid!

But if it were up to me, we'd have a penal colonies up in the Aleutian Islands for the likes of Saddam--give him lots of warm clothes and a fine (black and white) tv that showed nothing but American Infomercials--and let him live with the cold, damp, stormy weather in exile on a remote island in the Bering Sea. Drop his provisions (white rice and sardines) by air, and make it so he never had any human contact for the rest of his miserable pile of dung life.

quote Originally posted by texasfiero: I think it was the appeals court that made the ruling.

100% correct. Their law now says he must be executed within 30 days.

quote Originally posted by G-Nasty: Saddam killed people that tried to overtake his regime.

That makes his actions right?

quote International laws allow for this - IMHO-He 'was' the recognized leader.

Just like Hitler was?

quote It will be a battle cry to all those loyal to thier lands and corrupt dictator. The bloodshed will now undoubtly be brought over here.

How?

quote Its not like we're crystal clean-The U.S. has a long shameful greedy history as much as any other lands.

So?

quote Again, whats left out of all these discussions on war is financial & human costs.

Interesting to watch people like you barter human life.

quote Many people & banks have made hordes of loot from this Presidents endless money pit endeaver. Hell they even lent Saddam 2 billion prior to invading.

I'll bet you don't even wonder why.

quote Germany wanted Rumsfeld to also answer for war crimes- Thats one reason he had to go. That and he lost standing w/ top generals. Hes now busy covering up **** before Congress subpoena's his ass OUT>

Wow. Talk about the pot calling the ketlle black (Germany)

it would have been better to just drop a grenade into the hole they found him in, or fill it in with concrete with him in it. i think the idea was to demonstrate that we intended to bring rule by law rather than rule by murder, but it seems many iraqis are not interested in the concept.

sadam can't breath party at wahoo's fish taco's on main street in huntington beach california


endless beer 1.75

scedualed for the day sadam hangs.

I'll be there. anyone with a score to settle with me. meet me there when im drunk and u have the advantage

quote Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: endless beer 1.75 scedualed for the day sadam hangs. I'll be there. anyone with a score to settle with me. meet me there when im drunk and u have the advantage

I hope you really enjoy the show and don't worry, aint no one going to mess with you. Drink till your hearts content my friend.

Saddam dead before Sunday?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061229/D8MA9PN00.html

quote Originally posted by Spoon: I say instead of hanging him,, just string him up,,,very very slowly. He'll kick and fight alright !! Yes there is a difference..

goofg note ,short rope was useg ind Salen CN

Be it "Bear" raggn on "Nasty" , or "Bill" raggn on "Trevor" & no matter how you feel about OUR government's actions , Sadam deserves to hang.

He had murdered innocent people.

This mornings national news said today or tommorrow are very likely. Iraq government is also going to have a curfew for at least a few days afterward. They said more than likely they will just announce his execution after its done.

quote Originally posted by whadeduck: Truely sad that any lives have to be lost. But I wonder how many would die had nothing been done after 9/11. Dirty bombs, nukes, chemicals and the like would most likely now be commonly reported as being set off among the populations. If nothing, I believe that the war in Iraq has "called out" those who would've carried out those kinds of attacks on the civilian population and kept them from killing thousands, if not millions, of innocent people.

Maybe we should go invade South Carolina then, who knows what those folks might do in the future. Dirty bombs, nukes, chemicals and the like could most likely be commonly reported as being set off among the populations. If nothing, I believe that the war on South Carolina would "call out" those who would've carried out those kinds of attacks on the civilian population and kept them from killing thousands, if not millions, of innocent people. Maybe even the ENTIRE UNIVERGALAXY STATES OF EARTHMERICA.

You are out of your mind.

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Dammit! How did you find out? Now we have to keep acting like dumb rednecks until we get a new plan for taking over the world!

quote Originally posted by achawkins: Dammit! How did you find out? Now we have to keep acting like dumb rednecks until we get a new plan for taking over the world!

You get the point though I assume? Iraq was no threat to us, and look where it got us. Hell even President Ford knew we shouldn't be parading around the world overthrowing dictators unless it directly affected our national security. That's why Bush needed all those lousy lies as excuses to invade. He didn't have a good argument. So he made them up.

We'll never know how many blood sucking aliens we stopped from overtaking Earth thanks to our invasion of Iraq. Without occupying Iraq we could be in Alien food storage containers this very MINUTE! Thanks GWB!



GWB - Stopping blood sucking aliens from eating our juicy delicious brains since 2000.

quote Originally posted by achawkins: Dammit! How did you find out? Now we have to keep acting like dumb rednecks until we get a new plan for taking over the world!

Thas' alright. We got yer back.

Since America has taken over Iraq I'd venture to say the "murder rate" is about the same, the country is unstable and the people are at americans instead of an ass hole named Saddam.

quote Originally posted by intlcutlass: Be it "Bear" raggn on "Nasty" , or "Bill" raggn on "Trevor" & no matter how you feel about OUR government's actions , Sadam deserves to hang. He had murdered innocent people.

Anyone watch George Carlin on HBO last night (With reguard to GWB)?

quote Originally posted by intlcutlass: Anyone watch George Carlin on HBO last night (With reguard to GWB)?

I love Goerge Carlin, he cracks me up. But no I don't have HBO. Too much money for too little movies IMO.