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I just got way SMARTer! by yellowstone
Started on: 12-10-2006 08:58 AM
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Here's our new Smart convertible:

- Transversal mid-engine layout
- turbocharged 3 cylinder 799 cc engine
- sequential 6-speed gearbox (completely automatic at the push of a button)
- all leather interior with heated seats
- electric convertible top
- 16" BRABUS wheels (205 rear and 175 front tires)
- factory performance sound system with subwoofer and extra tweeters
- special "i-move" edition with built in i-Pod with stereo hook-up














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17" DEZENT T wheels with 215/40 tires front and 235/45 rear, KONI shocks, EIBACH lowering springs, drilled/slotted rotors, SS brake hoses. PU dog bone, all bushings and engine mounts, K&N air and oil filters, Rebuilt&blueprinted V6, BORLA exhaust. Mercedes SLK yellow paintjob, Mr. Mikes leather seats, door skins, shift and e-brake boots. MP3 deck and custom subwoofer behind passenger seat, F355 style front, Aus' Stage 2 side scoops, "Fie Ro" extractor front scoop. Fiero Store rear swaybar, strut tower brace, black carpet, air intake. Rodney Dickman's competition short shifter, SS vacuum lines and deck lid strut. Billet aluminum dash kit from Kitcarman.

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I liked the roadster coupe thing they had.. too bad it was dropped before it hit the US as I was actually thiking of getting one.
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Report this Post12-10-2006 09:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Falcon4Click Here to visit Falcon4's HomePageSend a Private Message to Falcon4Direct Link to This Post
I could eat that thing...

Very interesting car... what's it get for MPG?

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Report this Post12-10-2006 09:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for htexans1Send a Private Message to htexans1Direct Link to This Post
You already know what a Deer can do to an SUV. Imagine a Deer and a Smart.... not pretty.

S. Williams


I've seen the vids however, most deer stikes around here the animal came in through the WINDSHIELD. No crash zone is going to stop that.... !

Some countries don't have ultra compacts for a reason....
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Lots of fun to drive and fits in the (one car) garage together with the Fiero!

I get about 5 liter/100 km or 47 MPG with normal driving. Top speed is 140 km/h or 87 MPH.
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Originally posted by htexans1:

You already know what a Deer can do to an SUV. Imagine a Deer and a Smart.... not pretty.


Smarts have less mass behind them and don't need nearly as much "protection" as an SUV does. Chances are you'll get away with a few major dents but not even a scratch on your body.

edit: Decent mileage... hey, is that engine in the front or back? And do you have a higher res picture you can post of it? Looks interesting...

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Originally posted by Falcon4:


Smarts have less mass behind them and don't need nearly as much "protection" as an SUV does. Chances are you'll get away with a few major dents but not even a scratch on your body.

edit: Decent mileage... hey, is that engine in the front or back? And do you have a higher res picture you can post of it? Looks interesting...



The ads said 'mid engine'..

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The size of a car and its strength in a crash are not proportional at all. You can crash a (tiny) F1 car into a wall with 200 mph head-on and the driver doesn't have a scratch.

Look here for some Smart crash test videos:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eghIfyHP0

 
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Originally posted by htexans1:

You already know what a Deer can do to an SUV. Imagine a Deer and a Smart.... not pretty.

S. Williams

Some countries don't have ultra compacts for a reason....


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My god I would never want to work on that engine. Doesnt look like you can get to it at all except for the top.
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Here's a high-res pic: This images is larger than 100K. Click to view.

 
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And do you have a higher res picture you can post of it? Looks interesting...



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Originally posted by Nurb432:

The ads said 'mid engine'..


Well hell, a car that small, the engine could be in your crotch if it's accessible from the front! Hence still a "mid engine"

edit: Sweet car, but I meant the engine.

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You can drop it out the bottom... sounds familiar?

 
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My god I would never want to work on that engine. Doesnt look like you can get to it at all except for the top.


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Originally posted by yellowstone:

You can drop it out the bottom... sounds familiar?



I seem to forget which other car that can do that
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And also the can take guite a bit of a hit
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Now that's pretty sweet. No Surprisingly-Unsafe-Vehicle (SUV) would ever be able to claim that.
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Good Luck finding aftermarket wheels for THAT bolt pattern



3 bolts? Eek.
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I like Smart cars and would drive one myself but with all the Jacked up Hummers, Excursions, Escalades and Burbans with cell phone chatting idiots driving them I wouldn't feel safe. I put my X-19 in storage for that reason.
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I wonder how that'll hold up in a crash without the section of the cage that makes the passenger capsule so strong on the regular smart cars.

I saw a Smart here a few weeks ago on a car lot, I missed out on test driving it. They were taking prepping it for an auto auction as i was wandering around it to see if maybe I could take a test drive. Used one... no idea what it was going for. They had it parked next to a newer Lotus like someones been posting pictures of. No idea how you'd get parts for either one around here.

I think I'd rather have my TUV legal 85 Mini again.
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I think it's funny how many Fiero owners assume SMART cars are unsafe. Since we all drive deathtraps, you know.
How many threads are there on here about people complaining that "idiots" call their Fiero unsafe because it's so small?

Cool little car. If/when they sell them in the U.S., I'll definitely check them out. I really love the roadster.
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Not my cup of tea, but I have seen plenty of them since I am in London for a few weeks. I was watching 'Top Gear' where they tested one of the Smart Cars around the track and it was quite amusing. When going around a bend, the thing kept going straight....(I know, its not made for that but it was still funny).

I'm surprised with such a small vehicle/engine that the gas mileage isnt better than 47, but thats still pretty good. I'm pushing about 37 in my Civic on the highway.
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Cute car, how does it handle? With it being so small, lightweight, and mid-engine, it shouldn't handle that bad?

I wouldn't say I'd buy a smart if they sold them in the U.S., but I'd seriously consider 1 above other cars.
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I never said the SMART car was unsafe, just that the deer around here are going to be MUCH closer to you in the SMART than they are in a fiero.
S. Williams
It is a nice looking car though, perfect for city driving in an SUV-less society LOL

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Originally posted by Nurb432:

I liked the roadster coupe thing they had.. too bad it was dropped before it hit the US as I was actually thiking of getting one.


I believe there are ongoing discussions of another manufacturer bringing back the SMART roadster and possibly exporting to the US.
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Originally posted by htexans1:

I never said the SMART car was unsafe, just that the deer around here are going to be MUCH closer to you in the SMART than they are in a fiero.
S. Williams
It is a nice looking car though, perfect for city driving in an SUV-less society LOL




With the aerodynamics of the fiero, wouldnt you hit the deer, and then have it fly over the car as you pass under it? lol

I saw a SMART car when I was living in Cali and until I found out what it was, I just assumed it was some kind of postal vehicle. I want to see what it looks like when Yellowstone gets done customizing it.

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Yellowstone,
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I think that thing could fit in the bed of my truck!

This might be the only car in the world where a T25 turbo would be a huge upgrade.

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That's pretty cute! How much does it weigh?

Does the instrumant panel tilt from side to side?

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I had one as a rental for one day. It did the job fine, but I would never ever buy one...

But if you talk to people who own a Smart, they are all very happy with it!

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It seems so odd that a lot of you guys aren't familar with these cars. I keep forgetting you don't have them in the States. Up here in the frozen north (well, at least in my part of the frozen wet north) they are quite common.
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http://www.break.com/index/german_cop_crashes_kids_bike.html common enough for this to be normal, I have seen them in the background allot
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Cute little car. I would consider something like that if I lived in the inner city, of a big city.
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Originally posted by yellowstone:

I get about 5 liter/100 km or 47 MPG with normal driving. Top speed is 140 km/h or 87 MPH.


Is that 47 miles per US or UK gallon? Either way, it disappoints me. I would have thought given the SMART's attributes and the hype that you would be in the mid-50s or better!

For comparison, we have a 2001 VW Beetle; 1.9L turbo diesel, 5-speed manual. It averages 45mpg (~54mpg UK), has a top speed well above 140 km/h, and has significantly more cabin space. Not to mention that when we hauled a fully-dressed engine on a trailer for about 250km, there was no noticable change in fuel consumption.
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I've taken dumps bigger than that car....
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Never compare a gas and a diesel engine! My Smart runs on gas. There turbo-diesel powered Smart gets 3,5 liter/100 km or 67 mpg...

And the biggest reason to have a Smart is not the styling or the economy or anything but YOU FIT IN THE TIGHTEST PARKING SPACES THAT NO ONE ELSE FITS INTO!

If you ever lived in a larger European city you'd appreciate that. A lot.

 
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Is that 47 miles per US or UK gallon? Either way, it disappoints me. I would have thought given the SMART's attributes and the hype that you would be in the mid-50s or better!

For comparison, we have a 2001 VW Beetle; 1.9L turbo diesel, 5-speed manual. It averages 45mpg (~54mpg UK), has a top speed well above 140 km/h, and has significantly more cabin space. Not to mention that when we hauled a fully-dressed engine on a trailer for about 250km, there was no noticable change in fuel consumption.


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Originally posted by yellowstone:

Never compare a gas and a diesel engine! My Smart runs on gas. There turbo-diesel powered Smart gets 3,5 liter/100 km or 67 mpg...


Ahh, that would do it. I had the impression that they were all diesels for some reason.
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How well do they handle in the snow?
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I would be afraid that I would die in it. I lived in germany for 7 years and the smalest thing that I ever saw on the road was a bug. Good luck with it and I would be happy with 67mpg with the gas prices out here

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This is my third Smart. I bought one in 1999 (one of the first 1500, called the "limited 1" series) and had it for 2 years. It was used in London/UK, Madrid/Spain and by my then-girlfriend in Paris/France. Then I bought another one in 2003 and had it for 3 years (until last Friday) and the new convertible is my third.

I'm a huge fan of Smart cars. They are fun, comfortable, zippy and perfect for city driving (but I did drive from London to Madrid one time, that's 1800 km or 1120 miles). And one of the cars that best hold their resale value.

And they are MUCH safer than a VW Bug ever was!

And don't complain about gas prices. A gallon of premium gasoline is well above 6 USD around here! (1 liter = 1,20 Euro)

 
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I would be afraid that I would die in it. I lived in germany for 7 years and the smalest thing that I ever saw on the road was a bug. Good luck with it and I would be happy with 67mpg with the gas prices out here

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