I've been in computers literally all my live, and I've noticed lately that the wrong pronunciation of certain computer words is becoming the preferred pronunciation. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind that at all but what irks me is that people tell me I'm wrong for actually pronouncing a word correctly.
A few examples:
Router (as in routing data packets). The correct pronunciation is "r-oot-er", but the preferred pronunciation is "r-out-er" (dictionaries now lists both pronunciations as correct). I understand why people pronounce it as "r-out-er" (because "r-oot-er" sounds weird and because pronouncing it as "r-out-er" makes more sense). That doesn't mean "r-oot-er" is wrong (as it is historically the correct pronunciation, think of the command "tracert").
Cache (as in caching data). The correct pronunciation is "cash", but people pronounce it more and more as "cay-sh" (some people even pronounce it as "cash-ay").
Linux (as in the operating system). The correct pronunciation is "Lee-nux" (as in Bruce Lee), not "Lie-nux" (as in liar), yet when I'm in the States and talk about "Lee-nux", people "correct" me.
Honestly, I don't care how you pronounce these words, as long as you don't tell me I'm wrong!
So, how do you pronounce these words? And know of any other (computer) examples?
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RandomTask Member
Posts: 4547 From: Alexandria, VA Registered: Apr 2005
Ahh the r-oot-er , r-out-er debate. For this application I use "out". When it comes to roads I use both.
Cache = cash. I'm not sure how it could be misconstrude as anything else.
Linux = Lyn-ux This has alot to do with how American english is diffrent from the Queens english. If they wanted Americans to say "Lee-nux" they should have spelled it Leenux.
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11885 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
Linux = Lyn-ux This has alot to do with how American english is diffrent from the Queens english. If they wanted Americans to say "Lee-nux" they should have spelled it Leenux.
Like I said, I don't really care how people pronounce it, but Linux comes from the first name of the (original) author, "Linus" (Thorvalds), which is pronounced "Lee-nus". That's why the "correct" pronunciation is "Lee-nux"
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jstricker Member
Posts: 12956 From: Russell, KS USA Registered: Apr 2002
Cache- Cash (which IS the correct pronunciation although I hear "Cash-A" alot)
Linux- Lyn - uhx
I know a lot of people pronounce it Lyn-ix but to me that's wrong. Unix is U-nix. Xenix is Zee-nix. Linux is not spelled like the others and to my way of thinking, not pronounced the same way.
John Stricker
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Originally posted by Phranc:
Ahh the r-oot-er , r-out-er debate. For this application I use "out". When it comes to roads I use both.
Cache = cash. I'm not sure how it could be misconstrude as anything else.
Linux = Lyn-ux This has alot to do with how American english is diffrent from the Queens english. If they wanted Americans to say "Lee-nux" they should have spelled it Leenux.
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Scott-Wa Member
Posts: 5392 From: Tacoma, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Like I said, I don't really care how people pronounce it, but Linux comes from the first name of the (original) author, "Linus" (Thorvalds), which is pronounced "Lee-nus". That's why the "correct" pronunciation is "Lee-nux"
Linus is usually pronounced Lie-nus here. Is Lee-nus the Netherlands pronunciation?
Every American knows Linus from the Peanuts comics.
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tutnkmn Member
Posts: 3426 From: York, England, U.K. Living in Ohio Registered: May 2006
I suspect that some of this is a regional thing, especially Router. I've always heard it pronounced "r-out-er". And tracert has always been pronounced tracerout, as opposed to traceroot.
I have always pronounced cache as cash.
Linux is pronounced differently by just about everyone I hear say it.
Funny story... The first time I ever went for Bay Networks router training (this was many years ago -right after we started replacing bridges with routers, company-wide) we had gotten through 3 days of a 5 day class, and one of the guys spoke up and said that he wondered why the company was sending him to a class to learn how to operate woodworking tools.
But I still believe it's a regional thing. Heck, we can't even agree amongst ourselves how to pronounce things on this side of the pond.
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Xanth Member
Posts: 6886 From: Massachusetts Registered: May 2006
Well there go. Apparently we're right in pronouncing it after his name's pronounciation, but in the U.S. we typically pronounce Linus as lie-nus, so that's where the error comes in.
So that would be "lee-nux"
router: rout-er (I pronounce route as "root" when referring to roads, though) cache: cash
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If words are pronounced as they are in their mother language, then the 'correct 'pronounciations are Rooter (from the French, and then English, ' Route' , or 'direction')..I think Americans are the only people who say ' rowter' from the beginning.We Europeans seem to tend to adopt the American way, cos it is hip!! Cache..again from French, but the accent has been dropped by the English, should be 'cashay'.. the others are more modern words, but I guess the correct way is as the original word is used in the Land from whence it came!! (Ha!! I love Olde Englishe !!) Nick
This is an interesting topic to me, as I've often wondered what the proper ettequite is when pronouncing word with origins from other languages. In particular "Linux" has been an interesting study in that. I have a cousin who is a linguist (speaks several languages and was an interpretor for the Army at one point) and he's never really been able to provide me with a solid answer. The "proper" pronounciation in American english, based on the spelling woud be with a long "I" as in "lie-nux", but I know Torvalds pronounces it with a long "e"- Leenux". However The most common pronounciation here seems to be with a short "i"- Lin-ux. (which is how I pronounce it. It's not always a simple matter of listening to how a person (specifically one who natively speaks a different language), as their accent causes them to pronounce words differently from the way they are spelled. So when Torvalds gives it a long E sound, I don't know if that's because that's the way it's actually pronounced, or if it's because he's speaking with an accent that causes it to sound that way.
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ryan.hess Member
Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
R-out-er. I never heard it pronounced "root-er"... that's just sad! I know a "route" on the highway is "root" but a "route" to get from point A to B is "r-out". Strange.
Cache... that's simply "cash". I've heard some botched up pronunciations of that word too... but it's just "cash" for me and everyone else (sane) in the computer world.
Linux... Lin-ucks. Originally pronounced it "Lie-nucks" but was promptly corrected the first time it was uttered out loud by me.
And that's my $0.02.
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R Out Er Cash Line-x <- being its not actually a word, just a name, you can pronounce anyway you want. and since there is noone to claim it as there own, the name is in limbo. the root of the word (not the route) is Unix, so I would assume the "nix" part is pronounced the same way as in Unix, which I guess is why I intentially dont pronounce it that way.... much like I pronouce the silent letters in French derived words.....
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I've heard a recording of Linus Torvalds pronounciation and it's "Lee-nooks" with his accent, but I'm Texan so I'm not changing mine. The brits and sometimes Canadians are the only ones I've heard say router as root, hehehe.
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86GT3.4DOHC Member
Posts: 10007 From: Marion Ohio Registered: Apr 2004
Router is Route er, thats what they do, route packets to the proper destination. As for the tracert command, the real command on Cisco devices is traceroute, tracert is just an abbreviation of it for computers.
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paulcal Member
Posts: 2608 From: Jacksonville, Fl Registered: Oct 2002
In Australia we have to pronounce it r-out-er. If we said the office rooter is going down for everyone we would end up sacked. The word root in Australia has a whole different meaning
Likewise if you was going away ona driving holiday and you was asked which "root" are you going to take you would have to answer "Probably the wife but we will see what happens on the road"
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Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001