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How do *you* pronounce these words? by Cliff Pennock
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I've been in computers literally all my live, and I've noticed lately that the wrong pronunciation of certain computer words is becoming the preferred pronunciation. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind that at all but what irks me is that people tell me I'm wrong for actually pronouncing a word correctly.

A few examples:

Router (as in routing data packets). The correct pronunciation is "r-oot-er", but the preferred pronunciation is "r-out-er" (dictionaries now lists both pronunciations as correct). I understand why people pronounce it as "r-out-er" (because "r-oot-er" sounds weird and because pronouncing it as "r-out-er" makes more sense). That doesn't mean "r-oot-er" is wrong (as it is historically the correct pronunciation, think of the command "tracert").

Cache (as in caching data). The correct pronunciation is "cash", but people pronounce it more and more as "cay-sh" (some people even pronounce it as "cash-ay").

Linux (as in the operating system). The correct pronunciation is "Lee-nux" (as in Bruce Lee), not "Lie-nux" (as in liar), yet when I'm in the States and talk about "Lee-nux", people "correct" me.

Honestly, I don't care how you pronounce these words, as long as you don't tell me I'm wrong!

So, how do you pronounce these words? And know of any other (computer) examples?
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Router = R - out - er

Cache - Cash

Linux - Li - nix
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R-out-er

Cash

Lin - ex

I've heard "Cash-ay" on the news a lot... pisses me off.
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Ahh the r-oot-er , r-out-er debate. For this application I use "out". When it comes to roads I use both.

Cache = cash. I'm not sure how it could be misconstrude as anything else.

Linux = Lyn-ux This has alot to do with how American english is diffrent from the Queens english. If they wanted Americans to say "Lee-nux" they should have spelled it Leenux.
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Originally posted by Phranc:

Linux = Lyn-ux This has alot to do with how American english is diffrent from the Queens english. If they wanted Americans to say "Lee-nux" they should have spelled it Leenux.


Like I said, I don't really care how people pronounce it, but Linux comes from the first name of the (original) author, "Linus" (Thorvalds), which is pronounced "Lee-nus". That's why the "correct" pronunciation is "Lee-nux"
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Router - Rout-er (as opposed to "route/root" er)

Cache- Cash (which IS the correct pronunciation although I hear "Cash-A" alot)

Linux- Lyn - uhx

I know a lot of people pronounce it Lyn-ix but to me that's wrong. Unix is U-nix. Xenix is Zee-nix. Linux is not spelled like the others and to my way of thinking, not pronounced the same way.

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Originally posted by Phranc:

Ahh the r-oot-er , r-out-er debate. For this application I use "out". When it comes to roads I use both.

Cache = cash. I'm not sure how it could be misconstrude as anything else.

Linux = Lyn-ux This has alot to do with how American english is diffrent from the Queens english. If they wanted Americans to say "Lee-nux" they should have spelled it Leenux.


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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Like I said, I don't really care how people pronounce it, but Linux comes from the first name of the (original) author, "Linus" (Thorvalds), which is pronounced "Lee-nus". That's why the "correct" pronunciation is "Lee-nux"


Linus is usually pronounced Lie-nus here. Is Lee-nus the Netherlands pronunciation?

Every American knows Linus from the Peanuts comics.
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Actually it's GNU/Linux

But I normally say Lee-nux and Lyn-ux depending upon where I am. If I am in Europe I will say Lee-nux, here in the States I say Lyn-ux. Cheers!

PS: Most of the time I call the OS by it's name though rather than the name of the Kernel.

For instance:

Mepis or Mandriva or Fedora, etc.

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I suspect that some of this is a regional thing, especially Router.
I've always heard it pronounced "r-out-er". And tracert has always been pronounced tracerout, as opposed to traceroot.

I have always pronounced cache as cash.

Linux is pronounced differently by just about everyone I hear say it.

Funny story...
The first time I ever went for Bay Networks router training (this was many years ago -right after we started replacing bridges with routers, company-wide) we had gotten through 3 days of a 5 day class, and one of the guys spoke up and said that he wondered why the company was sending him to a class to learn how to operate woodworking tools.

But I still believe it's a regional thing.
Heck, we can't even agree amongst ourselves how to pronounce things on this side of the pond.
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Anyone else ever hear Cache as "Cake"?

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quote
Originally posted by Scott-Wa:


Linus is usually pronounced Lie-nus here. Is Lee-nus the Netherlands pronunciation?


Linus Torvalds pronouncing Linux
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Linus Torvalds pronouncing Linux


Well there go. Apparently we're right in pronouncing it after his name's pronounciation, but in the U.S. we typically pronounce Linus as lie-nus, so that's where the error comes in.

So that would be "lee-nux"

router: rout-er (I pronounce route as "root" when referring to roads, though)
cache: cash

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If words are pronounced as they are in their mother language, then the 'correct 'pronounciations are
Rooter (from the French, and then English, ' Route' , or 'direction')..I think Americans are the only people who say ' rowter' from the beginning.We Europeans seem to tend to adopt the American way, cos it is hip!!
Cache..again from French, but the accent has been dropped by the English, should be 'cashay'..
the others are more modern words, but I guess the correct way is as the original word is used in the Land from whence it came!! (Ha!! I love Olde Englishe !!)
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R-out-er

Cash-A - the real way it's supposed to be pronounced

lin-eX
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quote
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Linus Torvalds pronouncing Linux


Wait a minute... your not kidding me. That's the IKEA guy
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This is an interesting topic to me, as I've often wondered what the proper ettequite is when pronouncing word with origins from other languages. In particular "Linux" has been an interesting study in that. I have a cousin who is a linguist (speaks several languages and was an interpretor for the Army at one point) and he's never really been able to provide me with a solid answer. The "proper" pronounciation in American english, based on the spelling woud be with a long "I" as in "lie-nux", but I know Torvalds pronounces it with a long "e"- Leenux". However The most common pronounciation here seems to be with a short "i"- Lin-ux. (which is how I pronounce it. It's not always a simple matter of listening to how a person (specifically one who natively speaks a different language), as their accent causes them to pronounce words differently from the way they are spelled. So when Torvalds gives it a long E sound, I don't know if that's because that's the way it's actually pronounced, or if it's because he's speaking with an accent that causes it to sound that way.
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P.S. - It's "Organ" NOT "Or-i-gone" (The state)

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Router - R-OUT-er

Cache - cash

Linux - Lyn-ucks

I think some people confuse cache (pronounced "cash") with cachet (pronounced cash - ay)
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Wow, I was wrong on all three of them...

"Rout"-er

Cash-"A" (I've known it was "cash" for quite a while, but learned it wrong at first and now cannot get out of the habit of pronouncing it wrong...)

"Lin"-ux (Had no idea on this one...)
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R-out-er. I never heard it pronounced "root-er"... that's just sad! I know a "route" on the highway is "root" but a "route" to get from point A to B is "r-out". Strange.

Cache... that's simply "cash". I've heard some botched up pronunciations of that word too... but it's just "cash" for me and everyone else (sane) in the computer world.

Linux... Lin-ucks. Originally pronounced it "Lie-nucks" but was promptly corrected the first time it was uttered out loud by me.

And that's my $0.02.

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r OUT er

Cash

Lin ex or Lyn-ucks

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The same way Cliff pronounced them
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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

P.S. - It's "Organ" NOT "Or-i-gone" (The state)



And it Loovle not louey ville or looisville, as in Kentucky. LOL

oh and Nawlins not New Orleans.
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Originally posted by FieroRumor:

r OUT er

Cash

Lin ex or Lyn-ucks



Same here.
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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

P.S. - It's "Organ" NOT "Or-i-gone" (The state)



He's right. Its "Organ." -- Senator Packwood LOL!!

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r---out--er

cash--eh

line---ux
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Originally posted by The ROK:

cash--eh

line---ux


Worst. Pronunciation. Ever.
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I no. Im from the south....we mispronounce everything.

I have a feeling i misspelled that.
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My name is Theophilus, but I pronounce it Dave.
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R Out Er
Cash
Line-x <- being its not actually a word, just a name, you can pronounce anyway you want. and since there is noone to claim it as there own, the name is in limbo. the root of the word (not the route) is Unix, so I would assume the "nix" part is pronounced the same way as in Unix, which I guess is why I intentially dont pronounce it that way.... much like I pronouce the silent letters in French derived words.....
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Originally posted by FieroRumor:

r OUT er

Cash

Lin ex or Lyn-ucks



What he said...

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Out, Cash, Lie.

I've heard a recording of Linus Torvalds pronounciation and it's "Lee-nooks" with his accent, but I'm Texan so I'm not changing mine. The brits and sometimes Canadians are the only ones I've heard say router as root, hehehe.

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Router is Route er, thats what they do, route packets to the proper destination. As for the tracert command, the real command on Cisco devices is traceroute, tracert is just an abbreviation of it for computers.
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So my Wagner power sprayer is actually a Vagner power sprayer?

 
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If words are pronounced as they are in their mother language...
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In Australia we have to pronounce it r-out-er. If we said the office rooter is going down for everyone we would end up sacked. The word root in Australia has a whole different meaning

Likewise if you was going away ona driving holiday and you was asked which "root" are you going to take you would have to answer "Probably the wife but we will see what happens on the road"

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How do *you* pronounce these words?


Th-eez

Wer-dz

sheesh...
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