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How Hard Is It To Turn A Computer Into A Server? by Boondawg
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Report this Post09-07-2006 05:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoondawgSend a Private Message to BoondawgDirect Link to This Post
A Hypothetical Person With A Hypothetical Question:

He has a good computer just setting around.
He use's it to back stuff up on.
He has a cable modem & a fairly fast connection.
He has unlimited monthly uploads & downloads limits.
All his computers are networked together via a router.

He would like to use one of his computers as a standalone server. (fttp?)

What he would like to do is put music, music videos, and other stuff on it.
Then share it with friends.
"By Invitation Only".
A place for friends to Upload & Download.
He's not asking about the legality of it.

Would it be easy for him to do?
Could he do it himself?
He has seen Microsoft books on how to do it about 3 feet thick!
Is it really that hard?
Just a simple place to get & give stuff?
Could it be setup "By Invitation Only", keeping "Undesirables" out?

Can it be done by the "average" (or below) computer user?

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I run several servers on this machine. FTP, HTTP, mail, etc. It's not too terribly difficult.
An FTP server would probably be the easiest way to give people a username and password that gives them and only them access.
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Report this Post09-07-2006 05:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
There are a bunch of different ways to do it, it really depends on what ya wanna do.

Yeah, it is pretty easy to do.

And how much time you wanna spend fixing it, and how "custom" you want it.

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Report this Post09-07-2006 05:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TaijiguySend a Private Message to TaijiguyDirect Link to This Post
Probably the easiest way is to set it up as an FTP server. I like Bulletproof FTP software. Pretty easy to set up for a basic configuration, but has a lot of nice features as you get more comfortable with it.

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Report this Post09-07-2006 05:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
It can probably be done by your average computer user. If the computer has Win2K or WinXP, it should have FTP Server capability built in. You just need to activate and configure it*. Then your buddies need to install an FTP Client on their computers so they can connect. There are also many FTP programs available, some of which are free. Try a Google search.

* To use the built-in Windows FTP Server, a plug-in called "Internet Information Services" (aka IIS) needs to be installed. You can do this using the "Add/Remove Windows Components" section in the Control Panel. You'll need your Windows CD, too.

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quote
Originally posted by FieroRumor:

There are a bunch of different ways to do it, it really depends on what ya wanna do.



I think he wants just basically a password protected harddrive (or part of a harddrive) where people could give & take.
No fancy screens, chat, etc.
The bare basics.


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Shouldn't be too hard. Turn it over on it's broadest side, set the drink glasses on it, and offer your guests refreshments.


Sorry, just in a really smartass mood.

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Report this Post09-07-2006 05:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
First thing you nee to think about is how much reliability do you want built into it.

Anytime you share data you have to think about backups. Data gets corrupted and hard drives go bad.
Where are you storing the server, you don’t need a lot of space but it has to stay cool.
OS is probably the next biggest thing. If you don’t plan on using it for anything more than file storage any of the latest varieties of Linux will do what you want. Make sure you setup the fire wall and only allow the ports you need. In fact it’s a good idea to change the ports to something other than default then only give out the information to those you want to share with.

Network is the next thing, you said its connected to a modem. I would suggest your friend use a router and block all of the ports you don’t need.

Security is a big deal, not only can you loose your data but you could become a zombie and be responsible for sending out tons of spam and not know it.

Any server with a P3 1 Ghz with 512 megs of ram should work for web services. The biggest thing will be connectivity and hard drive space. You don’t want to trust the data to a single drive. You need a raid controller that will do raid 5, that way you can loose a drive and it wont effect the server at all. Just pull the dead one and put in at new one of the same size and it will rebuild the data.

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quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Sorry, just in a really smartass mood.



Forgiven.
After all, you don't get that way very often.
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Oh, wait, that's someone else!

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Forgiven.
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Oh, wait, that's someone else!


Au contrair (sp). I'm in that mood about 99.9% of the time. It's just me being me.

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quote
Originally posted by whadeduck:

Shouldn't be too hard. Turn it over on it's broadest side, set the drink glasses on it, and offer your guests refreshments.


Sorry, just in a really smartass mood.




Well they DO have built in automatic cup holders
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quote
Originally posted by tutnkmn:
Well they DO have built in automatic cup holders


Auto-retracting, even!
And fans to cool your coffee!

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Ooo, I've heard of some of them having cordless foot pedals now too.

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quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

First thing you nee to think about is how much reliability do you want built into it.

Anytime you share data you have to think about backups. Data gets corrupted and hard drives go bad.
Where are you storing the server, you don’t need a lot of space but it has to stay cool.
OS is probably the next biggest thing. If you don’t plan on using it for anything more than file storage any of the latest varieties of Linux will do what you want. Make sure you setup the fire wall and only allow the ports you need. In fact it’s a good idea to change the ports to something other than default then only give out the information to those you want to share with.

Network is the next thing, you said its connected to a modem. I would suggest your friend use a router and block all of the ports you don’t need.

Security is a big deal, not only can you loose your data but you could become a zombie and be responsible for sending out tons of spam and not know it.

Any server with a P3 1 Ghz with 512 megs of ram should work for web services. The biggest thing will be connectivity and hard drive space. You don’t want to trust the data to a single drive. You need a raid controller that will do raid 5, that way you can loose a drive and it wont effect the server at all. Just pull the dead one and put in at new one of the same size and it will rebuild the data.



So much for simple!
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Originally posted by Boondawg:


So much for simple!


Well you asked so I gave it my best shot.
Now if you want to go cheap then heck you can set xp pro or 2000 IIS and configure an ftp site.
Put in a large drive and load it up.
Its all in how long can you afford to be down should something bad happen. Just buy 2 drives and ghost one to the other so you have a backup and plug it in
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Report this Post09-07-2006 09:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for isthiswhereiputausername?Send a Private Message to isthiswhereiputausername?Direct Link to This Post
I used G6 ftp server years ago..

http://www.gene6.com/
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Report this Post09-08-2006 09:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
yes
WinGate is something you may to look for, if you dont wanna use MS stuff. theres also many other simaler packages.
another one, which is FREE for under 10 users is LAN602
I used lan602 for awhile - worked well
wingate is more powerful, has better interface & monitoring - but, only 1 month free - then gotta buy. but, setting the clock back does work - tho, for a server having unreal file dates - not good......
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