What? Science can be wrong and then change it's mind later? I can accept that. But what about all of you guys who spout 'science' even though there is no scientific proof that God doesn't exist OR that the Earth was created in any other way? Are you going to change your beliefs when one day science can prove that God created everything? Nah.. you'll think of some other reason to be an Atheist then. What about the rest of the people that 'science' told wrong? Of course, this is hypothetical but it is one of the possibilities that you must allow.[\quote]
let me say this one more time the christian God is suposidly Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient. Those three words make all the difrence in the world in my argument now quit ignoring them
[quote]Nah... just kidding. I'm just tired of having to type the same things over and over into different threads about the same thing when I know that people will respond to only one line of it and misquote it anyway and then ignore the rest...
I never misqioted you and I adresed your intire post I took nothing out of context EDIT: I own page 2
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I don't know what will hurt more... their feelings, knowing that they cannot be saved... or us, being vaporized. [quote] lol I for one welcome our little grey overlords!
What is God made of?
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Marshmallows, Almonds, chocolate, and all other sorts of Godly goodness.
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Where does he exist? Does he live in this universe? Outside of it?
I don't know. Think he gets Email? Does he have Wifi? If he never dies, does he "live"?
Ever hear of 'Rumor's Paradox'? "If God is supreme, and can't get any better, what happens if you warp him in bacon?" ( it is a well-known fact that EVERYTHING is better wrapped in bacon!)
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
What? Science can be wrong and then change it's mind later? I can accept that. But what about all of you guys who spout 'science' even though there is no scientific proof that God doesn't exist OR that the Earth was created in any other way? Are you going to change your beliefs when one day science can prove that God created everything? Nah.. you'll think of some other reason to be an Atheist then. What about the rest of the people that 'science' told wrong? Of course, this is hypothetical but it is one of the possibilities that you must allow.
just thought id point out that any one trying to use science to prove God doesnt exist is foolish. By the very nature of science it is imposable to prove a negative all you can do is use Logic and Reason to form an opinion this is called a Theory
If I were to ever see proof of the Supernatural in any shape form or fashion I would jump on it like a starved dog I was not always an Athirst before that I was a Pagan and believe me wen I say I would love for there to be something anything after death but I have seen nothing to indicate that there is until then I will live my life the best I know how and enjoy what little time I have.
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
Didn't that one movie... "what the bleep do we know"... say that we're god? Or something? I don't remember it at all.
Yup. It's a part of the makeup of the brain. But if that brain was made by someone........................... It only figures his fingerprints would be all over it!
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ryan.hess Member
Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
And now folks, under the heading of "Word I never thought I would ever say":
I.......agree 100% with you Jazz. VERY well stated.
Larry, I'm a man of faith too. But I understand that science and religion are not in competition with each other as so many religious people believe. I can believe in God AND believe in the scientific evidence that the Earth is 4.5 Billion years old. There is NO contradiction.
The contradicition is with the LITERAL interpretation of the gospels. Well, you can't do that. The Bible is a collection of allegorical stories, some BASED in truth and others not. The story of Adam and Eve, for example, was neither written by Adam nor Eve, so how can we be sure of the accuracy of the details? We can't. That is why we must be OPEN to the idea that our assumptions about the Bible might be wrong in the face of scientific proofs. That does not dilute the MEANING of the Bible, only our interpretation of it.
Hence, if scientific evidence shows us that our understanding of the Earth's age, based on an interpretation of the gospel, is wrong then it is our interpretation that must be flawed, not the gospel. Science, as Jazz stated, does not care about the result. When you add 2+2 you will get 4 and the math does not care. 4 is the answer. That is simply a fact. The mathemetician didn't try to manipulate the result to become 4, he didn't care whether the right answer was 4 or 12 or 11.89. He simply found the answer that was already there. It is now up to us humans to add the dimension of philosophy.
I agree but 2+2 only equals 4 under certain conditions. One of those givens that someone attempting to knock science can ignore by saying 2+2=10 or 2+2=11 (which I can prove and you can probably determine the conditions).
Is that a Tsunami I see coming this way?
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fierogtowner Member
Posts: 1610 From: Tampa, Florida, United States of America Registered: Aug 2005
Originally posted by Scott-Wa: I agree but 2+2 only equals 4 under certain conditions. One of those givens that someone attempting to knock science can ignore by saying 2+2=10 or 2+2=11 (which I can prove and you can probably determine the conditions).
